PPL to NPPL DVT warafrin and new rules?
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PPL to NPPL DVT warafrin and new rules?
Hello All,
I was a PPL holder in 1994, having past my PPL in 41 hours and 50 minutes.
I enjoyed flying very much and enjoyed sharing the experience with freinds and family. Then I had a business trip to India. On the flight I had a DVT, I did not realise this and thought I had pulled a muscle or something in my lower leg.
I travelled and worked in India for a month, during which time I had further flights. After a month I then flow to Japan via a one hour stop in Singapore.
By this time i was feeling unwell. I went to a doctor when I arrived in Tokyo and was admitted to hospital. I had a DVT and a mutiple pulmanory embelism.
I was flown home after 10 days in hospital and then recovered at home.
I discovered that I had an antithrombin deficiency, this meant taking warfarin every day. I wrote to the CAA as I was off sick for some months. They said I could not fly. 5 years later I went for an ECG, to check if my T wave was ok. It goes inverted if a blod clot has passed through the heart. My ECG was fine. I spoke to my flying instructor and he suggested NPPL. I booked my medical, booked the aircraft and examiner and having passed my medical took a four and a half hours flying test. I passed my flying test payed the fee to the CAA and got another piece of expensive paper allowing me to fly exactly the same aircraft as before.
I then moved to Germany, NPPL does not work here. I then discovered that in Germany if you are on anti coagulants you get a self test gadget to check your own INR.
There are many people flying who are maybe boarder line to having a medical problem and dont realise it. Surely if I am monitoring my INR and its between 2 and 3, which I think is what the CAA like then I should be safer than someone with a unseen problem lurking behind them.
Ok now the CAA are relaxing the medical rules, to GP certification, does this mean NPPL pilots can get back their PPL? This would mean that I could fly in Germany.
Are there any others of you out there with a similar situation, ie had to change from a world wide PPL to NPPL? due to anti coagulants?
I read recently about an American who was flying a light aircraft, trying to do an all states tour, after having recovered from a heart attack! maybe the FAA rules are very different. I know that many disabled pilots fly, which is great, but surely a known medical condition that is monitored, is safer than one that is still unknown.
The interpretation of the new rules from the CAA does not really cover this situation, so if anyone has any idea of how this might work please comment.
I miss my flying,
Best Regards to all,
Tim
I was a PPL holder in 1994, having past my PPL in 41 hours and 50 minutes.
I enjoyed flying very much and enjoyed sharing the experience with freinds and family. Then I had a business trip to India. On the flight I had a DVT, I did not realise this and thought I had pulled a muscle or something in my lower leg.
I travelled and worked in India for a month, during which time I had further flights. After a month I then flow to Japan via a one hour stop in Singapore.
By this time i was feeling unwell. I went to a doctor when I arrived in Tokyo and was admitted to hospital. I had a DVT and a mutiple pulmanory embelism.
I was flown home after 10 days in hospital and then recovered at home.
I discovered that I had an antithrombin deficiency, this meant taking warfarin every day. I wrote to the CAA as I was off sick for some months. They said I could not fly. 5 years later I went for an ECG, to check if my T wave was ok. It goes inverted if a blod clot has passed through the heart. My ECG was fine. I spoke to my flying instructor and he suggested NPPL. I booked my medical, booked the aircraft and examiner and having passed my medical took a four and a half hours flying test. I passed my flying test payed the fee to the CAA and got another piece of expensive paper allowing me to fly exactly the same aircraft as before.
I then moved to Germany, NPPL does not work here. I then discovered that in Germany if you are on anti coagulants you get a self test gadget to check your own INR.
There are many people flying who are maybe boarder line to having a medical problem and dont realise it. Surely if I am monitoring my INR and its between 2 and 3, which I think is what the CAA like then I should be safer than someone with a unseen problem lurking behind them.
Ok now the CAA are relaxing the medical rules, to GP certification, does this mean NPPL pilots can get back their PPL? This would mean that I could fly in Germany.
Are there any others of you out there with a similar situation, ie had to change from a world wide PPL to NPPL? due to anti coagulants?
I read recently about an American who was flying a light aircraft, trying to do an all states tour, after having recovered from a heart attack! maybe the FAA rules are very different. I know that many disabled pilots fly, which is great, but surely a known medical condition that is monitored, is safer than one that is still unknown.
The interpretation of the new rules from the CAA does not really cover this situation, so if anyone has any idea of how this might work please comment.
I miss my flying,
Best Regards to all,
Tim
There is another thread running with lots of information. Basically you can get your class 2 medical back
You might also wish to discuss changing from warfarin to one of the newer anticoagulants with your specialist to save the need for testing in relation to flying
However you will probably need to provide the CAA with considerable data I suspect. Even if your INR is perfect there is an increased risk if you have had a pulmonary embolus in the past
Good luck
You might also wish to discuss changing from warfarin to one of the newer anticoagulants with your specialist to save the need for testing in relation to flying
However you will probably need to provide the CAA with considerable data I suspect. Even if your INR is perfect there is an increased risk if you have had a pulmonary embolus in the past
Good luck
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Hi Radgirl,
Thanks for the info and reply. I am now on Phenogamma 3 tablets, they keep changing medications here in Germany, I went fro Warfarin to Caumadin to Phenogamma 3 in the time I have been in Germany.
Thanks for the advise on getting class 2 back.
Best Regards
Tim Goz
Thanks for the info and reply. I am now on Phenogamma 3 tablets, they keep changing medications here in Germany, I went fro Warfarin to Caumadin to Phenogamma 3 in the time I have been in Germany.
Thanks for the advise on getting class 2 back.
Best Regards
Tim Goz
