High Blood pressure no side effects cure
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High Blood pressure no side effects cure
Doctors zap high blood pressures with radio waves: Procedure could be permanent cure | Mail Online
I posted initial tests on this small operation for curing HBP a year ago. The tests are complete with excellent results for a NO drug cure for HBP.
Now its almost available on the NHS for those who do not respond to drugs!
Regarding drugs which have large side effects as well as effecting men in their personal lives this must be a major and exciting breakthrough!
For pilots who having side effects is more important this should be an exciting new development.
On the NHS drugs are still cheaper but for pilots is this a first point of call??
What is the CAA s opinion?
16 million have HBP so the drug companies who make a fortune selling poison to control it will not like this!!!!
I posted initial tests on this small operation for curing HBP a year ago. The tests are complete with excellent results for a NO drug cure for HBP.
Now its almost available on the NHS for those who do not respond to drugs!
Regarding drugs which have large side effects as well as effecting men in their personal lives this must be a major and exciting breakthrough!
For pilots who having side effects is more important this should be an exciting new development.
On the NHS drugs are still cheaper but for pilots is this a first point of call??
What is the CAA s opinion?
16 million have HBP so the drug companies who make a fortune selling poison to control it will not like this!!!!
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Unfortunately the long-term effects are unknown. It's certainly encouraging for those who don't respond well to drugs. It's worth the risk for many - but at this point there's still a risk.
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I am using this orthomolecular method, get yourself a BP meter to test at home. Low Carb, high fat diet.
Lechitin and carnitin can be found in the local health shop or on the internet.
One of the simplest and most effective
therapeutic approaches involved the combination
of a significantly higher water intake,
and supplementation with lecithin
(3600 mg/day) and L-carnitine (500 mg/
day). Increasing water intake can help to
promote a better hydroelectric and sodium-
potassium balance in the renal system.
Lecithin (phosphatidyl choline) will
promote the synthesis of acetylcholine, a
neurotransmitter that tends to reduce
blood pressure. L-carnitine is important in
the oxidation of fatty acids and is sometimes
described as an oral chelating agent.
Lechitin and carnitin can be found in the local health shop or on the internet.
One of the simplest and most effective
therapeutic approaches involved the combination
of a significantly higher water intake,
and supplementation with lecithin
(3600 mg/day) and L-carnitine (500 mg/
day). Increasing water intake can help to
promote a better hydroelectric and sodium-
potassium balance in the renal system.
Lecithin (phosphatidyl choline) will
promote the synthesis of acetylcholine, a
neurotransmitter that tends to reduce
blood pressure. L-carnitine is important in
the oxidation of fatty acids and is sometimes
described as an oral chelating agent.
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Unfortunately the long-term effects are unknown. It's certainly encouraging for those who don't respond well to drugs. It's worth the risk for many - but at this point there's still a risk.
Conventional drugs for controlling HBP do carry risks in numerous directions.
What is not clear is how long the effects of this procedure will last?
As stated HBP is a massive industry for the drug companies who would not want a simple medical procedure to better their own longterm drug usage and hence sales
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They haven't actually stated that there are no side-effects. The small trials so far (numbering around 200 patients in total, and funded and authored by the maker of the device), have shown a decrease in blood pressure but it is important to understand what these patients were.
To be elegible for the trial, patients had to have a minimum BP of 160mmHg and had to be on at least 3 medications. Post the procedure, the patients each remained on an average of 5 different medications, including a significant number who were on more medications after the procedure than before it.
The procedure itself has a number of risks, mainly those common to all endovascular procedures of this type. In this study, they were femoral artery pseudoanuerysm/haematoma, and renal artery dissection.
So, in people with severe hypertension, unresponsive to medication, this procedure may be a useful adjunct to medication. No patient in the trial was able to stop medication. The device is not yet FDA registered, and the procedure is only available as part of the trial.
Hope this helps. Best not to get your medical advice from headlines!
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BM
To be elegible for the trial, patients had to have a minimum BP of 160mmHg and had to be on at least 3 medications. Post the procedure, the patients each remained on an average of 5 different medications, including a significant number who were on more medications after the procedure than before it.
The procedure itself has a number of risks, mainly those common to all endovascular procedures of this type. In this study, they were femoral artery pseudoanuerysm/haematoma, and renal artery dissection.
So, in people with severe hypertension, unresponsive to medication, this procedure may be a useful adjunct to medication. No patient in the trial was able to stop medication. The device is not yet FDA registered, and the procedure is only available as part of the trial.
Hope this helps. Best not to get your medical advice from headlines!
Cheers,
BM
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Originally Posted by Bad medicine
Hope this helps. Best not to get your medical advice from headlines!
You can't claim no side effects until you've done a long-term trial with ... no side effects. It would be a shame, ten years out, to find this treatment leads to kidney failure. For the subjects with uncontrolled BP, there's little downside since that's what they're headed for anyway. For the rest, though, it's a poor outcome!
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I measure my BP and sats twice a day. Two cups of hibiscus tea per day seem to be worth about 6 mmHg. After showing a year of data to the doc, it got my drug regime reduced. Others report greater benefits.
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I am not medically qualified but find such a negative attitude puzzling!
HBP has been little understood and any advancement in understanding the condition has to be welcome as that is the only way to find a cure rather than throwing a cocktail of drugs which have serious side effects and which themselves damage other organs at patients for life.
Suits the big drug companies to have millions of people on drugs for life but that does not find a cure.
There has to be a better way than medicating patients with poisonous damaging drugs?
If this is a step in that direction it should be applauded.
And yes I am aware that the daily mail must be the curse of every GP surgery
HBP has been little understood and any advancement in understanding the condition has to be welcome as that is the only way to find a cure rather than throwing a cocktail of drugs which have serious side effects and which themselves damage other organs at patients for life.
Suits the big drug companies to have millions of people on drugs for life but that does not find a cure.
There has to be a better way than medicating patients with poisonous damaging drugs?
If this is a step in that direction it should be applauded.
And yes I am aware that the daily mail must be the curse of every GP surgery
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I don't think there has been a negative attitude here. There is no doubt that this is a potential new tool in the treatment of hypertension, but it doesn't allow people to come off their medication, and it is not without risk. There are as yet, no studies demonstrating the long term outcomes (positive or negative). You can always stop a medication if it has unintended effects.
As BM wrote, this study was funded by the manufacturer of the equipment used to carry out the procedure. How is that different to a drug company who does a trial to show how well their product works in order to get it registered by the various authorities?
I am medically qualified, and I would far prefer taking medication first, before letting someone stick a cannula up my femoral artery and destroying the nerves to my kidneys!
As BM wrote, this study was funded by the manufacturer of the equipment used to carry out the procedure. How is that different to a drug company who does a trial to show how well their product works in order to get it registered by the various authorities?
I am medically qualified, and I would far prefer taking medication first, before letting someone stick a cannula up my femoral artery and destroying the nerves to my kidneys!
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Pace -
In a lot of people (no, not everybody), there is a much better way. Avoid the risk factors that contribute to it from a young age:
But, if despite all of this, your blood pressure is high (and you will only know if you get it checked), the sooner it is brought back to an acceptable level the less damage will be done to your heart, kidneys, blood vessels, etc.
Nobody likes taking a lot of pills, but it is probably better than an early death, being permanently disabled by a stroke, or becoming a cardiovascular cripple.
The news story you presented is very misleading. While it is important work, not one person in the study was rendered medication free, nor was their hypertension "cured". The procedure may offer an additional way of managing severe hypertension which responds poorly to medication, but there is no data on the long term effects at this time.
Cheers,
BM
There has to be a better way than medicating patients with poisonous damaging drugs?
- Never smoke
- Eat a healthy diet - low fat, low salt
- Maintain a health weight
- Take regular aerobic exercise
- Moderate alcohol intake - no more than 2 standard drinks a day, and at least 2 AFDs a week
But, if despite all of this, your blood pressure is high (and you will only know if you get it checked), the sooner it is brought back to an acceptable level the less damage will be done to your heart, kidneys, blood vessels, etc.
Nobody likes taking a lot of pills, but it is probably better than an early death, being permanently disabled by a stroke, or becoming a cardiovascular cripple.
The news story you presented is very misleading. While it is important work, not one person in the study was rendered medication free, nor was their hypertension "cured". The procedure may offer an additional way of managing severe hypertension which responds poorly to medication, but there is no data on the long term effects at this time.
Cheers,
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Having had too many close relatives with cancer, even aged early 30s, I decided to inform myself with regard to my health and safety.
I am happy to have found a 'real' doctor interested in orthomolecular medicine. He will first check the blood analysis, then advise on diet, whatever supplements need to be taken (vitamins, minerals, etc) and as last resort pharmaceutical drugs.
I stopped taking BP medication and statins for cholesterol one year ago. After about two months (to describe it in pilot terms) my mind cleared up from 500 OVC to CAVOK. Several small issues that were attributed to 'old age' by my previous doctor disappeared mysteriously. A heart scan showed 0% calcium score (as good as new).
As I have entered my sixth decade, I feel more vigorous and clear-minded than when I was 30.
My conclusion so far: eat no more wheat, potato, pasta, bread, eat more fat, more vegetables, more eggs.
Many good books are available by Linus Pauling, Abram Hoffer, Andrew Saul, etc.
I am happy to have found a 'real' doctor interested in orthomolecular medicine. He will first check the blood analysis, then advise on diet, whatever supplements need to be taken (vitamins, minerals, etc) and as last resort pharmaceutical drugs.
I stopped taking BP medication and statins for cholesterol one year ago. After about two months (to describe it in pilot terms) my mind cleared up from 500 OVC to CAVOK. Several small issues that were attributed to 'old age' by my previous doctor disappeared mysteriously. A heart scan showed 0% calcium score (as good as new).
As I have entered my sixth decade, I feel more vigorous and clear-minded than when I was 30.
My conclusion so far: eat no more wheat, potato, pasta, bread, eat more fat, more vegetables, more eggs.
Many good books are available by Linus Pauling, Abram Hoffer, Andrew Saul, etc.
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My conclusion so far: eat no more wheat, potato, pasta, bread, eat more fat, more vegetables, more eggs.
They have stated that there are no side effects
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What about cholesterol? That has a BIG saying in HBP, imho.
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Certainly interesting but if it only applies to people who don't respond to drugs or suffer serious side effects. Then it's not much use to people like me who don't have any such problems. I would dearly love to give up my three a day, well two in fact, one is Statin for cholestrol. The main side effect of these is to lighten my wallet. No freebies in this country unless you're virtually on the bread line. €50 Euro a month is quite painful.
I'm interested in any other remedies though, like Lecithin and hibiscus tea. But the difficulty I have is my Class 1 medical. Need to hang onto that for obvious reasons. Which narrows my options a bit.
€50 Euro a month is quite painful.I'm interested in any other remedies though, like Lecithin and hibiscus tea. But the difficulty I have is my Class 1 medical. Need to hang onto that for obvious reasons. Which narrows my options a bit.
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Last week I finished reading 'The great cholesterol con' by Dr Malcolm Kendrick (Scottish).
His conclusions:
-statins don't work for 100% of women (extremely bad for pregnant women as well), work for only 5% of men (those who already had a heart failure, and those can safely avoid statins too).
-diet has no relationship to cholesterol
-countries with the highest saturated fat intake have the lowest heart disease deaths. Countries with the lowest fat intake have the highest heart disease deaths .
Compare :France: 15%fat intake, 75 deaths/100/000/year
Ukraine:7.5% fat intake, 730 deaths/100/000/year
note :official WHO data.
I too had recommendations from my AME 'to do something' about my BP. I took statins until a year ago when I started reading and discovering.
What is bad is processed foods with synthetic additives of any kind. Sugar and wheat are also real culprits for weight gain. There is a big gap between what the scientists (independent please) find and know and what is communicated to the general public. Cholesterol is a 2 billion GBP business in the UK alone, statins are the most profitable product of big pharma and we, patients and doctors are being brainwashed to death.
His conclusions:
-statins don't work for 100% of women (extremely bad for pregnant women as well), work for only 5% of men (those who already had a heart failure, and those can safely avoid statins too).
-diet has no relationship to cholesterol
-countries with the highest saturated fat intake have the lowest heart disease deaths. Countries with the lowest fat intake have the highest heart disease deaths .
Compare :France: 15%fat intake, 75 deaths/100/000/year
Ukraine:7.5% fat intake, 730 deaths/100/000/year
note :official WHO data.
I too had recommendations from my AME 'to do something' about my BP. I took statins until a year ago when I started reading and discovering.
What is bad is processed foods with synthetic additives of any kind. Sugar and wheat are also real culprits for weight gain. There is a big gap between what the scientists (independent please) find and know and what is communicated to the general public. Cholesterol is a 2 billion GBP business in the UK alone, statins are the most profitable product of big pharma and we, patients and doctors are being brainwashed to death.
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You are of course welcome not only to your views but also to follow whatever lifestyle you wish. However it is ironic your post rubbishing statins was done the day one of the largest independent studies on statins has been published and which shows that they even reduce death rates in people with normal cholesterol. Oh, and apart from muscle problems in 1 in 10000 no real side effects.
You are of course welcome not only to your views but also to follow whatever lifestyle you wish. However it is ironic your post rubbishing statins was done the day one of the largest independent studies on statins has been published and which shows that they even reduce death rates in people with normal cholesterol. Oh, and apart from muscle problems in 1 in 10000 no real side effects.
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Homonculus,
I have made my own conclusions, so far they seem to be working as expected. Everybody is responsible for his own health, so do your research. Why are so many more people dying from heart disease and cancer than only 50 years ago? Something is broken in the world of modern medicine it seems.
I have made my own conclusions, so far they seem to be working as expected. Everybody is responsible for his own health, so do your research. Why are so many more people dying from heart disease and cancer than only 50 years ago? Something is broken in the world of modern medicine it seems.
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I found this video very interesting: The Food Revolution - AHS 2011 - YouTube
Obesity, Hypertension, Diabetes didn't happen overnight.
Obesity, Hypertension, Diabetes didn't happen overnight.