Concussion/Head Injury.
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Concussion/Head Injury.
Hi chaps, had my class 2 medical a couple of days ago and it was all fine, but i needed to provide a report of a CT scan i've had. I picked it up today and dropped it off.
It reads:
'Clinical information head injury- Ko'd 3-4 minutes. Nauseous. Retrograde amnesia >30 min.
CT brain
Unenhanced axial scans have ben performed through the brain, No intracranial or intracerebral haemorrhage seen. No focal masss or midline shift. The ventricles and CSF spaces are symmetrical and normal in calibre. No subdural or extradural collections. No obvious bony injury.
Conclusion
No obvious focal abnormality seen on the unenhanced scan. No definite intracranial haemorrhage seen,'
Baring in mind this is a class 2 inital medical, does everything seem in order? I would also like to get a class 1 medical in the future so does this all seem fine?
Many thanks for your time.
It reads:
'Clinical information head injury- Ko'd 3-4 minutes. Nauseous. Retrograde amnesia >30 min.
CT brain
Unenhanced axial scans have ben performed through the brain, No intracranial or intracerebral haemorrhage seen. No focal masss or midline shift. The ventricles and CSF spaces are symmetrical and normal in calibre. No subdural or extradural collections. No obvious bony injury.
Conclusion
No obvious focal abnormality seen on the unenhanced scan. No definite intracranial haemorrhage seen,'
Baring in mind this is a class 2 inital medical, does everything seem in order? I would also like to get a class 1 medical in the future so does this all seem fine?
Many thanks for your time.
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You don't say how long ago this occurred but it sounds nice and normal to me. 
Those "Nos" are good. 
Had there been any doubt then a more detailed scan would have been performed. There wasn't any doubt then so there should be no need for doubt now. I think you will find that all will be well.
No obvious focal abnormality seen on the unenhanced scan. No definite intracranial haemorrhage seen,'
Had there been any doubt then a more detailed scan would have been performed. There wasn't any doubt then so there should be no need for doubt now. I think you will find that all will be well.
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Check JAR FCL 3 appendix 11 it will give you the guidance.
If you are dealing directly with CAA at Gatwick then they will be only too glad to help you, contrary to popular belief they do try to keep you flying.
Class 1 may be more tricky, again take the advice from Gatwick but be prepared to have an MRI private cost around £400 as the CT is unenhanced.
Best of luck
If you are dealing directly with CAA at Gatwick then they will be only too glad to help you, contrary to popular belief they do try to keep you flying.
Class 1 may be more tricky, again take the advice from Gatwick but be prepared to have an MRI private cost around £400 as the CT is unenhanced.
Best of luck
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This is an absolutely normal CT of your head. After trauma one wants to exclude bleeding into the brain, as this would cause serious problems. But your scan is absolutely normal. No need for contrast in this setting.
JAR-FCL 3 demands a (plausible) reason for your unconsciousness, full restitution to normal, and a low risk of seizures. Therefore the CAA might ask you to visit a neurologist and do an EEG (measuring electirc activity of the brain).
If you had no further problems after your (single) knock out, you should do o.k.
JAR-FCL 3 demands a (plausible) reason for your unconsciousness, full restitution to normal, and a low risk of seizures. Therefore the CAA might ask you to visit a neurologist and do an EEG (measuring electirc activity of the brain).
If you had no further problems after your (single) knock out, you should do o.k.
Hate to break the news, but your CT scan suggests that you are 100% normal. (Or at least your brain is.)
Doctors love playing with there fancy gadgetry, and to be honest, they are duty bound to perform this sort of scan if you were knocked out.
Enjoy your flying.
Doctors love playing with there fancy gadgetry, and to be honest, they are duty bound to perform this sort of scan if you were knocked out.
Enjoy your flying.
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cheers for the help guys! Everything was fine, medical issued .
Not looking to upgrade to class 1 for about 2 years now, and considering the injury happened this march would it really be a problem? I will of course take the report with me, is it likely to cause problems?
.Not looking to upgrade to class 1 for about 2 years now, and considering the injury happened this march would it really be a problem? I will of course take the report with me, is it likely to cause problems?
As has been said - the CT is normal. It was presumably to look for a bleed from the head injury and there was none
So the question was what was the injury? - if you were playing rugby and lost consciousness for a few seconds, no problem. If you had major injuries in a road traffic accident, or had prolonged loss of consciousness, or have had post head injusy personality chaanges Gatwick may be more interested
As has been said time and time again, iit is VITAL to ensure your doctor doesnt write something that risks your licesne simply from ignorance - putting down that your loss of consciosuness was more than a few seconds and you then had secondary amnesia was totally unecessary for the CT request. It may or may not have been accurate (you presumably couldnt have told him that as you were pieballed!!!!!) but sadly it is on your record.
Telling Gatwick fibs is naughty. Stopping your doctor speculating is good advice
So the question was what was the injury? - if you were playing rugby and lost consciousness for a few seconds, no problem. If you had major injuries in a road traffic accident, or had prolonged loss of consciousness, or have had post head injusy personality chaanges Gatwick may be more interested
As has been said time and time again, iit is VITAL to ensure your doctor doesnt write something that risks your licesne simply from ignorance - putting down that your loss of consciosuness was more than a few seconds and you then had secondary amnesia was totally unecessary for the CT request. It may or may not have been accurate (you presumably couldnt have told him that as you were pieballed!!!!!) but sadly it is on your record.
Telling Gatwick fibs is naughty. Stopping your doctor speculating is good advice
