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My prescription for CAA eyesight test.

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Old 13th Nov 2000, 08:13
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Hi Guys, I currently hold a class 3 medical for a Student pilot. I was just wondering if with my condition below could I get a class one from CAA?

R-700-350 x 10
L-550-400 x 170

Help greatly appreciated.

Good Day.
 
Old 13th Nov 2000, 23:54
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I'm not entirely sure, but I think that your current prescription is definately outside the CURRENT requirements. For a Class 1, they ask for an initial prescription of no worse than +/- 5.00D and no more than 2D of astigmatism.

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Old 14th Nov 2000, 04:53
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Thanks for your reply, I guess I would have to wait longer for them to change the regulations again....

Cheers.
 
Old 14th Nov 2000, 16:21
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I'm waiting aswell (I'm about -5.5D)
 
Old 17th Nov 2000, 15:46
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about that regulations, do u have any news about the JAA confrence to extend the limits to -5D like for the caa class1???
thanks for ur help;
loz
 
Old 17th Nov 2000, 18:17
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Loz,the limit is already -5 for both initial issue and renewal.
 
Old 17th Nov 2000, 18:53
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Another question about eyesight limits for commercial pilots:
the ICAO website states 'new regulations are expected to come into force in November 2001. The new requirements have no dioptre limits, visual acuity shall be 6/6 with or without spectacles or contact lens'. www.icao.int/icao/en/trivia/med_vis.htm

Does anybody know if this is still true and if so will JAA/CAA class1 medical standards be altered next year?

Apologies if this has been asked many times before - I'm new to this site..
 
Old 17th Nov 2000, 23:12
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Does anybody know how certain it is that the eyesight limits for a Class 1 Medical are going to be dropped, during Nov.2001??

If they do abolish the -5D rule, how likely is it that the airlines will do the same, or will they stick with their even-harsher limits??

Cheers
 
Old 18th Nov 2000, 02:34
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Airline limits are not really an issue as only the large airlines have a limit in anycase.

Under human rights law they would be on a sticky wicket for having stricter limits than was 'legally' required anyway, would they not?
 
Old 18th Nov 2000, 17:03
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if the dioprties limits are suppressed,
many national companies will probably impose new limits maybe close to the actual caa limits but u will always find some other companies in ur country wich won't request stricter limits ,they will simply apply the no diopt.limit rule. in this case, even if u don't fly for a bgig national carrier, u will find a job on a jet ; the most important thing is to fly and realise ur dream
nb; i have an other question : are u sure that the -5d limit is in application in the jar fcl regulation?? it isn't only for the caa licence ???
thanks for ur help:
loz
 
Old 18th Nov 2000, 18:28
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loz - looks like you're right. jar fcl gives initial issue limits as -3/+3.
www.jaa.nl/jar/jar/jar/jar.fcl.3.1.b.3.220.htm

Guess it depends on whether your home state is more lenient (caa is definitely -5/+3 for inital/renewal).

What is the relationship between ICAO and JAA? If ICAO has recommended dioptre limits be scrapped next year, do jaa regs have to change?
 
Old 19th Nov 2000, 19:55
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Hi Guys,

What actually do the examiners test for when they conduct the eyesight test.

I believe this area is the only problem to our chance for a flightdeck job. Really hope that they will remove the dioptre requirements asap.

Cheers.

[This message has been edited by boeinglover (edited 19 November 2000).]
 
Old 19th Nov 2000, 20:04
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Guys, I was wondering what is the rational reasons behind pilots having to have good eyesight???

If the medical division allows applicants with asthma attacks or colourblindness to qualify for class one, I don't see any reasons for people like us only without perfect eyesight but can be corrected with visual aids not to pass the Class one...

I feel a little unfairness here.

Any Comments about this????



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Old 19th Nov 2000, 21:46
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Yo,

the medical division doesn't allow applicants with colourblindness for class 1!

DP
 
Old 19th Nov 2000, 23:44
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And some more info:

For the initial test you need +/-3.00.
On your renewal you can have +/-5.00.
At least for JAA that is. So what Meeb has said about the limit doesn't comply with JAA-regulations. What it is with CAA, i'm not sure.
And about the colourblindness, dutch-pilot is correct.

I think the regulations aren't very strict at all. I have -2.75, and I really don't want to think about losing my glasses due to HEAVY turbulence or something (as a matter of speech). I feel like i'm almost blind without it. I could not fly a plane that way. And my eyes are allowed to deteriorate to -5.00?!? I wouldn't want to lose my glasses with that prescription! You never know what madman runs into the cockpit and knocks your glasses off ( or something hypothetical)

rgrds
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Old 20th Nov 2000, 00:52
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test
 
Old 20th Nov 2000, 01:06
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hi guys,
what does the icao is to purpose some recommended pratices (also known as sarps standards and recommanded practises)
when the icao makes standards, all icao members have to apply it strictly;
but for the recommanded practises is not an obligation;so the jaa members are not obligated to follow the icao's philosophy!
so about november 2001; the icao expects changes and new medical requirements about the visual acuity; but it's not sure that jaa members will do it.
do u know if the uk delivers jar fcl licences with the -5D rule???
thanks for help
cheers ;
loz
 
Old 20th Nov 2000, 07:46
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Guys, I have heard that some treatment could improve one's eyesight naturally without going through operation. Is that true ?

what about eating blueberries jam etc etc..would it improve the Visual acuity of a person?

Regards,
 
Old 20th Nov 2000, 12:24
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Blueberry jam,eh?

Did you also know that the word 'gullible' has been taken out of the dictionary?
 
Old 20th Nov 2000, 16:45
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Actually its Bilberry, it aids visual acuity particularly at night. WWII fighter/bomber pilots used to eat a lot of Bilberry Jam, you can buy the Bilberry tablets from your local health shop.

I took them for about 6 months just as an experiment and my vision certainly improved (Not a huge amount! - but it did improve!)

GV
 


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