Class 1 and glasses
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Thanks for the reply Rod!
Jeez...what's happening in Europe? So basically what you mean is it's impossible for me to fly commercially in Europe while I can do that in the US?
Do you know of a website for me to go to get more information?
Thanks a lot my friend!!
Jeez...what's happening in Europe? So basically what you mean is it's impossible for me to fly commercially in Europe while I can do that in the US?
Do you know of a website for me to go to get more information?
Thanks a lot my friend!!
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Not only is it possible for you to fly commercially in the US it is also possible for you to fly for a US airline and to fly one of their Planes into European airspace. Where is the logic in the JAA's position?
ICAO are supposed to be dropping this dipoter rule at the end of 2001 and the JAA are supposed to follow suit.
My Lenses are -2.5 so it will not affect me either way but my uncorrected vision is 20/50 which is pretty good. The funny thing is that I know a chap who's Lenses are -1.0 and -1.25 but his uncorrected vision is 20/100 which is way worse than mine, so it goes to show that the strength of your glasses is no indicator of how well you will see with out them or indeed how good your eyesight is anyway.
ICAO are supposed to be dropping this dipoter rule at the end of 2001 and the JAA are supposed to follow suit.
My Lenses are -2.5 so it will not affect me either way but my uncorrected vision is 20/50 which is pretty good. The funny thing is that I know a chap who's Lenses are -1.0 and -1.25 but his uncorrected vision is 20/100 which is way worse than mine, so it goes to show that the strength of your glasses is no indicator of how well you will see with out them or indeed how good your eyesight is anyway.
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Inverted flat spin,
Thanks for the note, so what you are implying is I cannot consider a pilot career in Europe at all while I can in the US? By the way what are the max diopters under the JAA? Are Australian licences convertible straight to FAA licences? Thanks a lot brother!
MASystem
Thanks for the note, so what you are implying is I cannot consider a pilot career in Europe at all while I can in the US? By the way what are the max diopters under the JAA? Are Australian licences convertible straight to FAA licences? Thanks a lot brother!
MASystem
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You can also get a Class 1 medical in Oz with your eyesight, no problems as long as you are correctable to 20/20.
Conversion from an Oz licence to the FAA equivalent is reletively straigh forward, do the written tests, sit the flight tests and you're done. You will have to do some dual to get up to speed on their proceedures and the manouvers required for the FAA CPL.
Right to work in the US is another matter alltogether.
Conversion from an Oz licence to the FAA equivalent is reletively straigh forward, do the written tests, sit the flight tests and you're done. You will have to do some dual to get up to speed on their proceedures and the manouvers required for the FAA CPL.
Right to work in the US is another matter alltogether.
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MASystem:
FAA standard for a First Class (required only for an ATP) and Second Class (required for Commercial Pilot, Flight Engineer and Flight Navigator) alike is simply correctable to 20/20 in each eye separately. The US has never had a refraction limit for civilian aircrew, though minimum uncorrected visual acuity standards have existed in the past. The fact that so many waivers were routinely being issued was the main reason why that requirement was dropped altogether during the past decade.
Also, be aware that the US neither issues nor recognizes a "Frozen ATPL" (we simply call it "ATP" over here, BTW). One must already meet the flight-time requirements in order to be allowed to take the written exam for that one. That's one aspect of our training system in this country with which I disagree: by not allowing the option of sitting exams for "ATPL Subjects" vs. "CPL Subjects" as allowed under the European system, it leaves us with no provision for allowing low-time pilots a means of obtaining recognition for additional knowledge gained through additional effort. IMO (and I say this as an Advanced Ground Instructor), big numbers in your logbook do not confer knowledge; all they mean is that you've had more money to spend than the next guy.
inverted flatspin:
I have a refraction of -6.75 sph -1.00 cyl in one eye and -5.25 sph -0.50 cyl in the other, yet have an uncorrected distant visual acuity of 20/200 (correctable to 20/12). I tend to leave optometrists shaking their heads, saying "that couldn't possibly be right", since most patients they see with that level of refractive error tend to have DVA's of 20/400 to 20/800.
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Anybody out after 2 AM is either a turd, a cop or a pilot. Or any combination of the three!
FAA standard for a First Class (required only for an ATP) and Second Class (required for Commercial Pilot, Flight Engineer and Flight Navigator) alike is simply correctable to 20/20 in each eye separately. The US has never had a refraction limit for civilian aircrew, though minimum uncorrected visual acuity standards have existed in the past. The fact that so many waivers were routinely being issued was the main reason why that requirement was dropped altogether during the past decade.
Also, be aware that the US neither issues nor recognizes a "Frozen ATPL" (we simply call it "ATP" over here, BTW). One must already meet the flight-time requirements in order to be allowed to take the written exam for that one. That's one aspect of our training system in this country with which I disagree: by not allowing the option of sitting exams for "ATPL Subjects" vs. "CPL Subjects" as allowed under the European system, it leaves us with no provision for allowing low-time pilots a means of obtaining recognition for additional knowledge gained through additional effort. IMO (and I say this as an Advanced Ground Instructor), big numbers in your logbook do not confer knowledge; all they mean is that you've had more money to spend than the next guy.
inverted flatspin:
I have a refraction of -6.75 sph -1.00 cyl in one eye and -5.25 sph -0.50 cyl in the other, yet have an uncorrected distant visual acuity of 20/200 (correctable to 20/12). I tend to leave optometrists shaking their heads, saying "that couldn't possibly be right", since most patients they see with that level of refractive error tend to have DVA's of 20/400 to 20/800.
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Anybody out after 2 AM is either a turd, a cop or a pilot. Or any combination of the three!
