The good old class 1 med!
The good old class 1 med!
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You're in for a grand old time indeed!
Just remember when they hook those electrodes up to you, and ask you questions about personal habbits.. DONT LIE, one of those wires is hooked into something powerful.
That and the amount of physical activities you have to perform for hours on end, you'll be sore for a week after!
Seriously though, it's nothin like this. My first class 1 consisted of chest x-rays, an ECG, full eye examination with lots of pretty lights and stuff, hearing test, and the general reflex tests.. much like a standard medical check up, just a bit more hardout. There's the usual peeing in a cup, getting your goolies felt (that one was a suprise!), blowing into the tube, basically testing to make sure you aren't completely gammy and have some co-ordination. Nothing to be worried about at all, apart from when they ask you how much you drink on the form.. but it's all sweet, nothing difficult to it!
Good luck!
GROOVE!
Just remember when they hook those electrodes up to you, and ask you questions about personal habbits.. DONT LIE, one of those wires is hooked into something powerful.
That and the amount of physical activities you have to perform for hours on end, you'll be sore for a week after!
Seriously though, it's nothin like this. My first class 1 consisted of chest x-rays, an ECG, full eye examination with lots of pretty lights and stuff, hearing test, and the general reflex tests.. much like a standard medical check up, just a bit more hardout. There's the usual peeing in a cup, getting your goolies felt (that one was a suprise!), blowing into the tube, basically testing to make sure you aren't completely gammy and have some co-ordination. Nothing to be worried about at all, apart from when they ask you how much you drink on the form.. but it's all sweet, nothing difficult to it!
Good luck!
GROOVE!
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Apart from doing the other medical things like stay away from coffee. Lay off the booze the week before. Its really not to bad, i didn't like the lights thing but it won't kill you. The guys that failed when i was there all failed because of there eyesight which you should have checked out by now anyway. They won't fail you for wieght until you are BMI of 35 which is BIG.There is a blood test but its only a finger prick and they do your blood fat thingy as well.
To be honest my last diving medical was alot worse, the bastards made me run 5 miles with a mask thing, on a tread mill.
O yes make sure you have a clean arse
MJ
To be honest my last diving medical was alot worse, the bastards made me run 5 miles with a mask thing, on a tread mill.
O yes make sure you have a clean arse
MJ
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James,
Likewise, I too was under the impresion that the cost was £400.00, not including the journey.
I will call them tomorrow & let you all know!!
MJ.
You are getting me a tad concearned about all of the rear end stuff. I do hope your kidding!?!?!
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Likewise, I too was under the impresion that the cost was £400.00, not including the journey.
I will call them tomorrow & let you all know!!
MJ.
You are getting me a tad concearned about all of the rear end stuff. I do hope your kidding!?!?!
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I would consider the hearing test as important. The levals changed about a year and a half ago. They were at 35-50dB which is the same as the Yanks. They are now around 20-35dB. The CAA wasn't happy about the change but they were forced to adopt them under the new JAR med ops. Germany and Holland get there own way as normal hay!
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about that hearing regulation..
when i first went for my class 1, the rules here in NZ were and still are the same as the yanks, 35db..
I noticed however that on the little graph they do on your hearing form that i had a 10db 'dip' at the higher and lower ends of the hearing spectrum..
what i was wondering is if these were common in these tests, or if it could possibly pose a future problem for passing the hearing tests.
Cheers
Groove
when i first went for my class 1, the rules here in NZ were and still are the same as the yanks, 35db..
I noticed however that on the little graph they do on your hearing form that i had a 10db 'dip' at the higher and lower ends of the hearing spectrum..
what i was wondering is if these were common in these tests, or if it could possibly pose a future problem for passing the hearing tests.
Cheers
Groove
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Well, I am 100 percent i'll pass everything, except the eye test. Which I am 99 percent certain i'd fail. Balls. Slight occular inclusions in one eye and 4.5 Dioptre's in the other. Sod it.
OKay, can I at LEAST fly a single engined mail plane over water? So the only person I can kill is myself? NO.
Well, okay can I go drive 36 tonnes of artic up the motorway in rush hour in the pouring rain? YES! (And I have)
Can I drive a petrol tanker through a town-centre in the ice and snow? YES!
Could I potentially get a BUS licence and drive 60 people around all day, through town centres, motorways etc etc etc? YES!
Could I potentially get a licence to Drive a train with 500 people on it? across country at 100MPH YES
(and i'd even apply aviation standards of discipline to my driving... Starting at having the common sense to stop at red signals)
Are these ALL far more dangerous than someone with minor vision defects flying an aircraft on their own, in an environment where the only people they COULD hurt are themselves (and the people who's mail got a big soggy) YES, THEY ARE!
C'mom. Allow people to make a living flying light planes on a Class2 Medical! That's all I've ever wanted to do for gods sake. I KNOW there is a shortage of keen light aircraft pilots because everyone wants to go to the airlines. So allow those of us that WANT the jobs to do them!
Right. Rant over. Hope you enjoyed it. You may now clap or throw things at me as appropriate.
BTW, I could not be less interested in Airline flying.... i'm a computer programmer right now, so flying a Jumbo would seem to similar to what I am doing now - Ooooh!
OKay, can I at LEAST fly a single engined mail plane over water? So the only person I can kill is myself? NO.
Well, okay can I go drive 36 tonnes of artic up the motorway in rush hour in the pouring rain? YES! (And I have)
Can I drive a petrol tanker through a town-centre in the ice and snow? YES!
Could I potentially get a BUS licence and drive 60 people around all day, through town centres, motorways etc etc etc? YES!
Could I potentially get a licence to Drive a train with 500 people on it? across country at 100MPH YES
(and i'd even apply aviation standards of discipline to my driving... Starting at having the common sense to stop at red signals)
Are these ALL far more dangerous than someone with minor vision defects flying an aircraft on their own, in an environment where the only people they COULD hurt are themselves (and the people who's mail got a big soggy) YES, THEY ARE!
C'mom. Allow people to make a living flying light planes on a Class2 Medical! That's all I've ever wanted to do for gods sake. I KNOW there is a shortage of keen light aircraft pilots because everyone wants to go to the airlines. So allow those of us that WANT the jobs to do them!
Right. Rant over. Hope you enjoyed it. You may now clap or throw things at me as appropriate.
BTW, I could not be less interested in Airline flying.... i'm a computer programmer right now, so flying a Jumbo would seem to similar to what I am doing now - Ooooh!
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Nothing at all. I just felt like a rant. Try it some time, does you good. Laugher may be the best medicine, but ranting is a good pick-me-up!
I felt better for it, at any rate!
Best of luck with your class 1. BTW I understand they're lowering the requirements to 5 dioptres so i may yet "get lucky".... See you at the opticians, maybe?
I felt better for it, at any rate!
Best of luck with your class 1. BTW I understand they're lowering the requirements to 5 dioptres so i may yet "get lucky".... See you at the opticians, maybe?
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Chaps / Chappettes,
Is it true that the initial Class One medical can be done only at Gatwick.
I'm in Australia and need to do one reasonably quickly. There are DAME's/AME's here that can do a renewal, but no-one is allowed to do the initial.
I hear that it can be also be done in Switzerland, Holland and Denmark, but have no details at all. Would anyone have any info on this, much appreciated .....
Is it true that the initial Class One medical can be done only at Gatwick.
I'm in Australia and need to do one reasonably quickly. There are DAME's/AME's here that can do a renewal, but no-one is allowed to do the initial.
I hear that it can be also be done in Switzerland, Holland and Denmark, but have no details at all. Would anyone have any info on this, much appreciated .....
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"Groove Champ" you should be ok for now but I would keep an eye on it privately with audiograms say once a year.
There are many differant and complex prob's that can happen with your ears. Alot of the highest causes of hearing losses in people are inner ear or sensoryneural losses.
These can be caused by any number of things; A few to many and a bouncer not taking to kindly to you chating up his girlfreind! Virus's such as Mumps with fevers, have been known to attack the Auditory Nerve. If a DR. doesn't know what caused it he normally says that it is idiothatic=genetic(just blame it on your father). It's an easy get out for Dr's, most of the time it's wrong though. Most inner ear losses are stable but some do slide from the high freq range to the low or the other way round and these can be progressive. This looks like a diagnle line across your audiogram graph.
10dB is not alot though to be honest with you. A very large proportion of the population in fact do have some kind of loss. It could even be just a cold, bunged up and all that(middle+outer ear). What I do say to you though, is to have a look at what BALPA say about cockpit related noise, to do with hearing loss. Doing a preflight next to a 737-100 could also be fatal without defenders.
Most Aviation authorities are concerned with the 1000hz,2000hz and 3000hz frequencies. This is where speech and voice recognition are, so that is there main concern.
I hope that helps a bit? cheers alibaba.
[This message has been edited by alibaba (edited 22 June 2001).]
[This message has been edited by alibaba (edited 22 June 2001).]
There are many differant and complex prob's that can happen with your ears. Alot of the highest causes of hearing losses in people are inner ear or sensoryneural losses.
These can be caused by any number of things; A few to many and a bouncer not taking to kindly to you chating up his girlfreind! Virus's such as Mumps with fevers, have been known to attack the Auditory Nerve. If a DR. doesn't know what caused it he normally says that it is idiothatic=genetic(just blame it on your father). It's an easy get out for Dr's, most of the time it's wrong though. Most inner ear losses are stable but some do slide from the high freq range to the low or the other way round and these can be progressive. This looks like a diagnle line across your audiogram graph.
10dB is not alot though to be honest with you. A very large proportion of the population in fact do have some kind of loss. It could even be just a cold, bunged up and all that(middle+outer ear). What I do say to you though, is to have a look at what BALPA say about cockpit related noise, to do with hearing loss. Doing a preflight next to a 737-100 could also be fatal without defenders.
Most Aviation authorities are concerned with the 1000hz,2000hz and 3000hz frequencies. This is where speech and voice recognition are, so that is there main concern.
I hope that helps a bit? cheers alibaba.
[This message has been edited by alibaba (edited 22 June 2001).]
[This message has been edited by alibaba (edited 22 June 2001).]