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Old 28th Jul 2008, 06:13
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Headaches, Visual Disturbances...

Hi Folks,

I'm having a worrying session & just wanted to throw this one open.

I have, for the past 4 years been suffering from what I consider to be ill health...let me explain symptoms:-

1: Daily Migraines & Dizzy Spells
2: Frequent visual disturbance
3: Extreme muscle pain in neck & upper back
4: Sore spine (Wierd!)
5: Base of back sore when pressure is applied but not sensitive to touch
6: Insomnia

Now, I've been to the doc with these several times & got absolutley nowhere. The headaches since the age of about 13 are apparently nothing to worry about, The backache is growing pains & the rest is just "a virus" (doctor speak for "I can't be a*sed, where's my golf clubs?")

As we have a few very clued up people lurking around here, I thought I would throw this one open to see what thoughts come back, before I go for another (probably fruitless) assault on the GP!

(I feel I should mention here, I don't work up the pointy end...before anyone get too worried!)
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 06:54
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Those symptoms alone point to nothing obviously worrying, but obviously we don't have the same facts as your GP has.

It's probably not a case of your GP not being ars*d, more the fact that the history and examination don't point to anything serious. (GP's do this 30-40 times a day, so they tend to be very good at it.) I've worked with a lot of GP's, I don't know any who play golf, most are too busy working.

If your unhappy, find another GP, it's your right.

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Unhappy

All of your symtoms could point to a range of illnesses and problems, if you ask your doctor to refer you to a specilist (Spinal Clinic). If you wanted to go private (quicker, and not REALLY expensive) id go see a Reflexologist and a Chiropractor.
The spinal pain could be the swelling of joints beneath the spinal and pelvic area, equally it could be a trapped nerve.
Suffered with a bad back and some of the similar symtoms mentioned above for coming 7 years now (17 years old now)... no idea what age you are, but you need to go private to be taken seriously if you are of a younger age. The reason i was never treated rightly was becuase of there suspisions of 'Attention Seeking'.

Hope this helps, ask for your referal.
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Red face private "treatment" . . . . . . ?

. . . you need to go private to be taken seriously if you are of a young age. The reason I was never treated rightly was because of their suspicions of 'Attention Seeking'.
So, now that you are going privately, just what is the "right treatment" for the symptoms described ?
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You need to get a complete Neurological examination done including a whole Spine MRI to rule out neurological causes.

have a fast recovery
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Red face another thought on this one . . . . . .

So far there has been very little "aviation related" content in this thread,
( except perhaps for "not working at pointy end" ), so here is a question for everyone on this forum to consider :

If, after boarding the B 757 on which you are going on holiday, you are told that either one or both of the flight crew were suffering from :
1: Daily migraines & dizzy spells
2: Frequent visual disturbance
3: Extreme muscle pain in neck & upper back
4: Sore spine
5: Base of back sore when pressure is applied but not sensitive to touch
6: Insomnia
. . . . . . . . would you remain on board ?
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 13:09
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AME and PPL your post made me laugh - help/guidance springs to mind!

Ground_star,

The symptoms you state sound somewhat serious and need to be given immediate attention.

I would suggest you book an appointment with a few specialists and also get a second opinion. - you need to get them sorted to live a normal life.

If your GP does not pay attention, visit a hospital, if that fails. Then book with privately because for money they will get you a new arm.

You will find a consultant who will review your symptoms and provide advice.

If in 4 years you have not made alot of noise to get it sorted, is it so severe?

Best of Luck
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Red face ditto . . . . .

<---------- also R O F L having read that !

Thanks !
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There seems to be a perception that "going private" improves your health.

Largely, this is untrue.

'Spose if you pushed me, I'd admit that a speedier diagnosis may result from private healthcare, but I doubt "going private" affects the outcome, in terms of health.
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Smile hear, hear . . . . . . . . ! !

There seems to be a perception that "going private" improves your health. Largely, this is untrue
YET AGAIN find myself in total agreement with Gingernut !

So, does nobody yet want to comment on the B 757 crew with these symptoms . . . . . . . . ?
Just trying to keep the thread related in some way to aviation too.
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Oh go on then


1: Daily migraines & dizzy spells
2: Frequent visual disturbance
3: Extreme muscle pain in neck & upper back
4: Sore spine
5: Base of back sore when pressure is applied but not sensitive to touch
6: Insomnia
In the absence of disease, I'd guess a good swim and a bit of time at the seaside'd sort him out.

(This is usually the bit where the poster comes back on the forum in 2 weeks, tells us all what a wayne ker gingernut is, and how a private consultation revealled a rare and wonderful disease, which left unchecked another day, would surely have seen him off.)

Interestingly, any pilot could suffer these symptoms, and the likelihood is, he'd still pass his medical,and go on to fly his 757.

He could also have a drink problem, be acutely suicidal, faint when up ladders, get chest pain on climbing more than a flight of stairs, smoke crack cocaine to his hearts content, cough and wheeze all winter, see stars every time he gets up suddenly, and still pass his medical.

'cos lets face ie AME, the medical isn't that good at doing what it should do is it.
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Smile how long can this go on . . . . . . ?

'cos let's face it AME, the medical isn't that good at doing what it should do, is it ?
Hate to have to admit it, but . . . . . . .

YET AGAIN find myself in total agreement with Gingernut !
It's not very often I'm totally lost for words, but . . . . . . . . . . .
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 23:01
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I’m a pilot not a doctor, but I’ve posted a lot about migraines over the years. Search in my name with any date selected (top one ) and in this forum.

Frankly I’m surprised by some of the replies, and I think this young man needs a fairly broad spectrum of investigations to try to ascertain just what is going on.

The reference to aircrew with this man’s symptom list leaves me totally confused.

Yes, doctors do see a lot of this kind of thing, and it’s often stress induced, focussing inwards, and self fuelling, but for the patient it is nevertheless quite distressing.

Migraine with aura should not be taken lightly, especially when there’s a high repetition rate.

I know that it could be stress induced, causing symptoms in both (literal) directions, and I feel that his GP should make every effort to make sure there is no recurring muscle spasm that winds up during waking hours.
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Red face just following mod's example . . . . . . . .

The reference to aircrew with this man’s symptom list leaves me totally confused
Sorry if that's the case . . . . . just trying to keep the discussion aviation related. There are, after all, literally hundreds of purely medical forums where the symptomatology and the pathophysiology of it could be discussed ad nauseam.

A recent thread was actually CLOSED by a moderator, with the comment
"Good advice, but nothing really to do with aviation".

Can't seem to do right here . . . . . . . maybe I'll go and hibernate again !

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Old 29th Jul 2008, 08:06
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Yes, it is a little unfair to belittle what can be a severe and distressing condition for many people.

I guess comments like
The backache is growing pains & the rest is just "a virus" (doctor speak for "I can't be a*sed, where's my golf clubs?")
tend to start you off on the wrong footing.

The posters misinformed-I should rise above it, I do in "real" life.
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Any relation with MCS & CFS ?

As a French pilot interested in health issues, I believe your problem could be related to neurological deseases such as MCS or CFS. Check the following links for more informations :
School of Molecular Biosciences - Faculty: Pall
School of Molecular Biosciences - Faculty: Pall
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