Liberalizing medical requirements
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Re: Liberalizing medical requirements
Hello folks,
Good to see that people are trying to add to the discussion. One thing that has become clear to me is that things are still fluid, and that the people (AME's) who are going to be working under the new rules are not certain on what is all going to change and how.
I tried to pry some more information about the changes from the eye specialist. He was being his vague self. And I did not get a coherent answer from the fellow. Obviously the institutes are a bit worried about the changes in the sense that less tests will need to be done (meaning less money to make), and the reduction in the number of medicals required (especially the over 40 crowd) is going to have a significant effect on the revenue side. Meaning less staffing for the institute. This seems to be utmost in peoples mind at the medical institute. I guess first things first. We are a revenue engine to them, not people who are there to get their ticket punched for another year of six months so we can provide for our families.
Hope things will become clear shortly. Greetings O.
Good to see that people are trying to add to the discussion. One thing that has become clear to me is that things are still fluid, and that the people (AME's) who are going to be working under the new rules are not certain on what is all going to change and how.
I tried to pry some more information about the changes from the eye specialist. He was being his vague self. And I did not get a coherent answer from the fellow. Obviously the institutes are a bit worried about the changes in the sense that less tests will need to be done (meaning less money to make), and the reduction in the number of medicals required (especially the over 40 crowd) is going to have a significant effect on the revenue side. Meaning less staffing for the institute. This seems to be utmost in peoples mind at the medical institute. I guess first things first. We are a revenue engine to them, not people who are there to get their ticket punched for another year of six months so we can provide for our families.
Hope things will become clear shortly. Greetings O.
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Re: Liberalizing medical requirements
JAA is Strict...
But Malaysian's DCA Class-1 is Even Stricter..
I can only obtain a Class-1 With Night Flying Restrction With the following:
R:-4.50D 1.75D(Astig)
L:-4.25D 1.75D(Astig)
But Malaysian's DCA Class-1 is Even Stricter..
I can only obtain a Class-1 With Night Flying Restrction With the following:
R:-4.50D 1.75D(Astig)
L:-4.25D 1.75D(Astig)
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Re: Liberalizing medical requirements
any news about the astigmatism limits?
I have -3 and -2
i hold class 1 medical but every year i'm very scared to lose it beacause i'm borderline!
I have -3 and -2
i hold class 1 medical but every year i'm very scared to lose it beacause i'm borderline!
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Apologies if someone else has posted this but I think that the medical matters discussed in Hoofddorp can be found at
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...49&pagetype=87
The move towards 12 monthly medicals for those of us over 40 would appear to apply to MPA operations.
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...49&pagetype=87
The move towards 12 monthly medicals for those of us over 40 would appear to apply to MPA operations.
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This is my situation
Before I had miopia -6.25/-6.75... I have done lasik surgery about 1 1/2 years ago. Mi vision now is 20/20. I posses a FAA First Class medical (no limitations). I have an FAA ATP and I have been flying for over 5 years. I am from Spain, and I am trying to get back at some point, but I have a huge medical barrier.
Is there a way for me to get a JAA First class medical? I read in this thread to explain your case and try to get a waiver or something like it, but to who?? How about if I just take my chances and try to go get a first Class without saying anything..Will they ever find out?
Thank for all the help, its very appreciated.
Scube.
Before I had miopia -6.25/-6.75... I have done lasik surgery about 1 1/2 years ago. Mi vision now is 20/20. I posses a FAA First Class medical (no limitations). I have an FAA ATP and I have been flying for over 5 years. I am from Spain, and I am trying to get back at some point, but I have a huge medical barrier.
Is there a way for me to get a JAA First class medical? I read in this thread to explain your case and try to get a waiver or something like it, but to who?? How about if I just take my chances and try to go get a first Class without saying anything..Will they ever find out?
Thank for all the help, its very appreciated.
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I would go for a medical in spain. If they reject me I would try for medical U.K
It is possible that you can pass a First class medical because your eyes was within the renewal requirements before surgery.
It all depends on the licensing authourity.
Some doctors are nice and wants you to pass. They just check that you are a safe pilot.
Then there are doctors that are assholes. Remember one a doctor that wanted to fail me because I had to much earwax. I then called AMC and they just laughed. Anyway I got really scared with this and now everytime a go for a medical check I get "white coat hypertension"
It is possible that you can pass a First class medical because your eyes was within the renewal requirements before surgery.
It all depends on the licensing authourity.
Some doctors are nice and wants you to pass. They just check that you are a safe pilot.
Then there are doctors that are assholes. Remember one a doctor that wanted to fail me because I had to much earwax. I then called AMC and they just laughed. Anyway I got really scared with this and now everytime a go for a medical check I get "white coat hypertension"
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Jimmy, Are you tracking me out!? Just kidding.Thank you sooo much for your imputs. They are not great news, but my head is now clear. I guess I'll have to put all this new project on hold till my next trip to Europe. Well, lets keep are hopes high.
Thanks again for all the help.
Scube.
Thanks again for all the help.
Scube.
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Sparks,
if having to stare into a hi intensity strobe light pulsate at various frequencies 6 inches away from your face for 20 mins, whilst clumsily attached leads to your head (complete with immovable surgical gel) irritate your skull, all the while a igor-esque machine operator straight out of a 1950's Bela lugosi movie, moves various levers and scribbles various notes which you are aware of in the periphary.......
The only thing missing is a "Herr Doktor" with a monocle and a maniac grin...
Unless a previous history dictates investigation, I don't personally see the point in such a test ?
Originally Posted by sparks-flying
You mentioned the EEG being dropped.
It actually got dropped over a year ago, just before my initial class 1.
Shame , it sounded quite interesting!!!
SF
It actually got dropped over a year ago, just before my initial class 1.
Shame , it sounded quite interesting!!!
SF
if having to stare into a hi intensity strobe light pulsate at various frequencies 6 inches away from your face for 20 mins, whilst clumsily attached leads to your head (complete with immovable surgical gel) irritate your skull, all the while a igor-esque machine operator straight out of a 1950's Bela lugosi movie, moves various levers and scribbles various notes which you are aware of in the periphary.......
The only thing missing is a "Herr Doktor" with a monocle and a maniac grin...
Unless a previous history dictates investigation, I don't personally see the point in such a test ?
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Vision requirements
There are options to Vision enhancement without surgery. I started Ortho K when I was 19. Contact lens reshapes the Cornea and maintains for 24 to 48 hours. FAA and the Saudi's version dropped all limitations on my Class One Med. Now I suscribe to updated version call CRT, where I sleep with a modified set of Lens and remove them during the day. Still maintains 20/15. This procedure if stopped will allow Cornea to return to original shape and eyesight. I'm 52 today ans never had a problem with my eye's. I wouldn't think of letting someone "cut" on my Cornea when most Opthomolgists wouldn't do the same.
Obviously, not having to wear any sort of corrective lens would be preferred, however, if you need corrected vision and want a Class one this may work for you. My wife is a NeoNatal Physician and was recently contemplating Lasik. I suggested she try the CRT and if she wasn't happy, discontinue it and go the Lasik way. At 49 Years she started the CRT and has 20/20 today.
I don't sell the Product or receive renumeration in any way, just happy with what is has done for me and knowing I could discontinue it at anytime I wanted to. Not the perfect anwser, but a solution that allows me to make my living in a Jet.
Obviously, not having to wear any sort of corrective lens would be preferred, however, if you need corrected vision and want a Class one this may work for you. My wife is a NeoNatal Physician and was recently contemplating Lasik. I suggested she try the CRT and if she wasn't happy, discontinue it and go the Lasik way. At 49 Years she started the CRT and has 20/20 today.
I don't sell the Product or receive renumeration in any way, just happy with what is has done for me and knowing I could discontinue it at anytime I wanted to. Not the perfect anwser, but a solution that allows me to make my living in a Jet.
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I just looked at the new NPA. It seems like they have removed the line which states:
"There is no stereoscopic test requirement"
Does this mean that we are going to be tested for stereovision now?
"There is no stereoscopic test requirement"
Does this mean that we are going to be tested for stereovision now?
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From the CAA page here:
This is excellent news for me as it seems like my issue with having a lazy eye which is slighly long sighted and a good eye which is short sighted (which pushes me over the prescription difference between eyes limit) might finally be resolved - I can hopefully get a JAA class 2 finally. Flying in the UK on an Australian license is beginning to become a bit limiting.
Does anyone have any information on whether or not the prescription difference limit has been relaxed as well?
Paul.
Ambylopia - The visual acuity in the other non-amblyopic eye should be 6/6 with or without correction. (Previously the 6/6 acuity had to be achieved without correction)
Does anyone have any information on whether or not the prescription difference limit has been relaxed as well?
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I found this on the JAA page (NPA 28):
At revalidation or renewal examinations, an applicant experienced to the satisfaction of the Authority
with a refractive errors error not exceeding +5 dioptres or with a high myopic refractive error
exceeding -6 dioptres may be considered assessed as fit by the AMS (see paragraph 2 (b) Appendix 13 to
Subpart B).
(iii) Applicants with a large refractive error shall use contact lenses or high-index spectacle lenses.
Does this mean, if i have e.g. -8dpt at the renewal, the might give me the class 1 medical?
And when will the NPA become effective?
Thanks
At revalidation or renewal examinations, an applicant experienced to the satisfaction of the Authority
with a refractive errors error not exceeding +5 dioptres or with a high myopic refractive error
exceeding -6 dioptres may be considered assessed as fit by the AMS (see paragraph 2 (b) Appendix 13 to
Subpart B).
(iii) Applicants with a large refractive error shall use contact lenses or high-index spectacle lenses.
Does this mean, if i have e.g. -8dpt at the renewal, the might give me the class 1 medical?
And when will the NPA become effective?
Thanks
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I had a class 1 renewal 2 weeks ago, AME said that the extension to 12 monthly testing of over 40's was coming in November 2006 so advised that I have my next renewal after that date and it will last for 12 months. Thats OK for me as I'm not flying commercially at the moment.
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My eye site is:
Right Eye:
Sphere = -0.50
Cyl = +2.50
Axis = 10
Left Eye:
Sphere = -0.50
Cyl = +2.75
Axis = 165
Can i ask, what section in that list is the dioptres in my eyes?
And also, could i get a class 1 medical with that standard of eye site after they change the requirements?
Martin
Right Eye:
Sphere = -0.50
Cyl = +2.50
Axis = 10
Left Eye:
Sphere = -0.50
Cyl = +2.75
Axis = 165
Can i ask, what section in that list is the dioptres in my eyes?
And also, could i get a class 1 medical with that standard of eye site after they change the requirements?
Martin