Nausea bands
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Nausea bands
Hi,
I suffer from nausea on long flights if im not in control especialy when thermaling. Has anyone ever tried the nausea bands that are usualy used on boat trips or coach journeys that put pressure on a specific point on youre wrist that supposedly stops nausea. Do they work?
Where can i get them from?
Many thanks
Nick
I suffer from nausea on long flights if im not in control especialy when thermaling. Has anyone ever tried the nausea bands that are usualy used on boat trips or coach journeys that put pressure on a specific point on youre wrist that supposedly stops nausea. Do they work?
Where can i get them from?
Many thanks
Nick
I shall probably worry a few people who think that they know me at this point, but nothing new there.
In traditional oriental medicine there is a point called "Pericardium 5", which has nothing to do with your Pericardium, but is located in the centre of your wrist underside, the length of your end thumb joint below the top crease inside your wrist (nearest crease to the palm. If you prod that point with a finger tip, you'll feel that it's a bit more sensitive than the surrounding skin.
P5 as a pressure point will, if massaged, counter nauseum. These "anti-seasickness bands" (which you can buy in boots, most airport shops, etc.) have a sort of blunt stud which pushes into the point.
So, TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) tells you it will work. My experience is also that it works, but if you are just sat there in steerage, idly massaging that point with the thumb of your other hand, works much better than an inanimate band.
So, I'd suggest saving your fiver and do-it-yourself!
G
(Yes I do practice a variation on oriental medicine, but purely as a hobby. For the record, I practice Kempo and Shiatsu - the former a martial art, the latter healing - they complement each other well, both at a lowish but reasonably competent level.)
In traditional oriental medicine there is a point called "Pericardium 5", which has nothing to do with your Pericardium, but is located in the centre of your wrist underside, the length of your end thumb joint below the top crease inside your wrist (nearest crease to the palm. If you prod that point with a finger tip, you'll feel that it's a bit more sensitive than the surrounding skin.
P5 as a pressure point will, if massaged, counter nauseum. These "anti-seasickness bands" (which you can buy in boots, most airport shops, etc.) have a sort of blunt stud which pushes into the point.
So, TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) tells you it will work. My experience is also that it works, but if you are just sat there in steerage, idly massaging that point with the thumb of your other hand, works much better than an inanimate band.
So, I'd suggest saving your fiver and do-it-yourself!
G
(Yes I do practice a variation on oriental medicine, but purely as a hobby. For the record, I practice Kempo and Shiatsu - the former a martial art, the latter healing - they complement each other well, both at a lowish but reasonably competent level.)
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These are meant to be good -
http://www.travel-sickness.co.uk/tre...erm-patch.html
(hope the link works!)
http://www.travel-sickness.co.uk/tre...erm-patch.html
(hope the link works!)
Not sure of the evidence or theory behind "Sea bands", but they seem to work well for pregnant mum's. (Who on the whole, avoid thermalling and nasty drugs!)
Last edited by gingernut; 30th Jun 2005 at 10:20.
Slight correction and addition to my previous post.
The point is Pericardium 6, not P5.
For those with a more conventional (and considerably deeper) medical training, the point is putting pressure on the median and leteral antebrachial cutaneous nerves, and on the median artery and veins.
Which of these stops you being nauseous, I've no idea - probably a combination. As to how, even my shiatsu books are pretty vague.
G
The point is Pericardium 6, not P5.
For those with a more conventional (and considerably deeper) medical training, the point is putting pressure on the median and leteral antebrachial cutaneous nerves, and on the median artery and veins.
Which of these stops you being nauseous, I've no idea - probably a combination. As to how, even my shiatsu books are pretty vague.
G
you could try one of these:
http://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/181895-1.html
I use one for gliding. Have exactly the same problem as you, nauseous when thermalling with the other pilot in control. Seems to work.
H
http://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/181895-1.html
I use one for gliding. Have exactly the same problem as you, nauseous when thermalling with the other pilot in control. Seems to work.
H
A follow up to this; yesterday I took an old friend flying in a small noisy aeroplane. I had no particular concerns about this, it was a nice day and he's been flying with me several times before.
As soon as we landed, he dived into the hedge, clearly suffering from severe motion sickness (he was absolutely fine before we got airborne).
On discussion, it turned out that recently he'd had a similar problem after being spun around on a childs roundabout by his 3yo daughter - leaving him feeling nauseous for several hours. So, he has a problem, and his wife and I ganged up on him and ordered him to the Doctor.
But, when I recommended the P6 treatment, his nausea settled down in a few minutes. Clearly this doesn't constitute a long-term solution (that's between him and his GP), but it did (in an anecdotal and unscientific sort of way) demonstrate the effectiveness of the short term fix.
G
As soon as we landed, he dived into the hedge, clearly suffering from severe motion sickness (he was absolutely fine before we got airborne).
On discussion, it turned out that recently he'd had a similar problem after being spun around on a childs roundabout by his 3yo daughter - leaving him feeling nauseous for several hours. So, he has a problem, and his wife and I ganged up on him and ordered him to the Doctor.
But, when I recommended the P6 treatment, his nausea settled down in a few minutes. Clearly this doesn't constitute a long-term solution (that's between him and his GP), but it did (in an anecdotal and unscientific sort of way) demonstrate the effectiveness of the short term fix.
G
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'RELIEF BAND'
Go here: http://www.reliefband.com/whatisit.html
Works on the point that Genghis TE mentioned.
My wife is VERY sensitive to air travel - this lets her fly without problems; even in light aircraft.
Works on the point that Genghis TE mentioned.
My wife is VERY sensitive to air travel - this lets her fly without problems; even in light aircraft.
For those with an interest in such things...
(Linked to the named website, which is jolly useful and I hope won't mind a bit of free publicity).
(The units are "AU" or "cun": roughly the length of the subject's end thumb joint. Why this fellow seems to have a bullethole in his chest is not clear to me).
(Linked to the named website, which is jolly useful and I hope won't mind a bit of free publicity).
(The units are "AU" or "cun": roughly the length of the subject's end thumb joint. Why this fellow seems to have a bullethole in his chest is not clear to me).
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To be perfectly honest, I took a Robin 200 up for a cross country yesterday (crazy idiot, I hear some of you say), and there were a couple of times where the plane encountered motions which were not exactly what my body wanted to experience (eg, at one stage the gust caught the plane and I ended up doing a nose down climb - yes it is possible - wouldn't have said so before yesterday!). The end result of this was a nauseus smog descending on me until late last night.
However, what worries me most of all is that IF everything works out and I end up doing my CPL and onwards, if the same was to happen again, I might well be pushed over the edge. Just as a question for all you IR and CPL holders out there, when you started your training, did you ever go through the motions, and if so, did the armband really help at all? Just curious more than anything else.
However, what worries me most of all is that IF everything works out and I end up doing my CPL and onwards, if the same was to happen again, I might well be pushed over the edge. Just as a question for all you IR and CPL holders out there, when you started your training, did you ever go through the motions, and if so, did the armband really help at all? Just curious more than anything else.
10 years or so ago I was earning my living mostly as a flight test observer - this involved sitting in the rear/right of various flying machines whilst they did things that no CPL ever wants to encounter (1 hour of inverted spinning with an oxygen mask on and heavily rubber scented air anybody?).
Whilst I do have a naturally fairly strong stomach, I certainly got pretty close to redesigning the cockpit on a few occasions. In my mind, I'm very certain that the best thing of all is familiarity - the more flying you do, and the more regularly, the less you suffer. The other issue is that the busier you are the less you suffer.
That said, I've used the P6 thing several times since I've been studying the subject over the last 3 years or so, and without doubt it does work - I've not tried the band but can't see that it'll work less well than massaging the point with my thumb.
G
Whilst I do have a naturally fairly strong stomach, I certainly got pretty close to redesigning the cockpit on a few occasions. In my mind, I'm very certain that the best thing of all is familiarity - the more flying you do, and the more regularly, the less you suffer. The other issue is that the busier you are the less you suffer.
That said, I've used the P6 thing several times since I've been studying the subject over the last 3 years or so, and without doubt it does work - I've not tried the band but can't see that it'll work less well than massaging the point with my thumb.
G
