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Old 15th May 2005, 23:10
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Help..Failed medical and nowhere to turn!

Hey guys...

Got the bad news the other week that I am outside the limits for the class one. I am 3.1 dioptres difference between the two eyes before my eye muscle imbalance is even considered. I could see a specialist and risk complicated surgery but thats a risk even before I start ATPL!

My question is how many of you guys have had a kick in the teeth and continued to pursue a career in aviation?

I work as cabin crew now but there is no future in T & C and i've really geared myself up to start studying!

Anyone move into engineering.. what are the requirements to work ATC?

Any experience or stories would be inspiring and helpful.. I really am gutted..

Thanks in advance

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Old 15th May 2005, 23:26
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I failed the CAA colourvision tests and even tho they told me there was no way I would get a medical I kept at it and now have a class 1. If its really important to you then you'll find a way. good luck.
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Old 16th May 2005, 00:02
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I'm sorry to hear that, 6string...

Wonder whether you have ever heard of the 'Bates' method? Some people have used this to strengthen their eyes muscles, and have managed to comply with the regulations through it.

A bit of research on here, and further afield may be the way to go.

Good luck to you.


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Old 16th May 2005, 00:18
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SixStringzz..here's a start. http://www.pprune.org/forums/search....by=&sortorder=
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mate

spend some time doing what hawk suggests and some good advice from Blinkz too. If you persist you can make it. I've got severe hyperphoria (17 doptres eso and exo) and have got a New Zealand Class 1 and the UK CAA said I could get a class 1 only that my contact lenses are outside the limits.

Dont lose hope too quickly...
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Old 16th May 2005, 06:34
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I have asked before, but what is the procedure for pilots with a replacement lense. People seem to see well for years having had cataract surgery, and they should get both eyes nearly the same.
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Old 17th May 2005, 19:38
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Has anyone actually failed, tried the bates method and passed?

I believe the medical community consider it a gimmick and even the optometrist at the CAA laughed when I mentioned it.

I dont want to put all of the effort in now only to get a command in 10 years time and have my medical revoked due to failing eyesight.

Its not only a squint problem but a difference in vision and a prescription problem!

Damn genes!
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<what are the requirements to work ATC?>

You need a Class 1 Medical. Don't look on ATC as a fall-back unless you really want to do it. It's a job at least as specialised and as difficult as flying.

I wish you luck in whatever you do.
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try the bates method, search on amazon and buy the book written by his daughter.
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Sorry to hear that.. it hurts when they deny the medical certificate.. but like Blinkz said.. if it´s really important to you, you´ll find the way.. don´t give up too soon, you´ve got to make your moves first.

You can find similar and worse stories here, about denials, grounded pilots, wannabees, etc.. but it´s up to you where you want to stay. Find out as much as you can about your problem and the possible solutions and then decide..

You´ll find good advice from very nice people around here..

Good luck
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Well no one else has stated the totally bleeding obvious, so I will.

Find a good optician and take their advice.
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Old 5th Sep 2005, 22:47
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Sorry to flog this, but I can not understand why some people press on with extremely poor vision when a new lens may be the answer.

I’m back to 20/15 repeat 15 (better than 20) after cataract surgery. Today, for the first time, I am wearing a new membrane thin contact lens that is bewilderingly good. Even though I have dry eyes I had forgotten that it was in there. It is correcting a CYL of 1.5, so side g-forces (that is lying down in my case) cause the lens to rotate for a moment.

Rather than loose a much loved career, why not chance the lens? I have asked this before, and only had PMs…but they were very positive.

At my age the risk is not important, but the 5% danger zone is better than some laser surgery is it not?

What is important is the long term prospects, and being stuck with a fixed focus eye. The new flexible lenses are rather cutting-edge, and not enough is known about long term prospects…I suppose in truth, nothing is known. But if I had the choice again, I might consider the flexible lens. This is not to be confused with a multi-focus lens, this is old-hat an not very good at night.

The problem is digging out a poor choice of lens if you get it wrong. So researching the hospital is of vital importance. Chalk and cheese is how I have been advised. Best to get it right the first time.

It was academic for me, cos I had to have it done in the States. ($2700 with after care) but it seems that I have got a better than average result.
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Hiya,

have you looked into LASIK surgery, I was 3.5 dioptres difference before imbalance testing, upto 5 dioptres with the drops. I had surgery at Accuvision in London on my bad eye and now the difference is only 0.5 - 1 dioptre. I had a check at the CAA last year and the word was that as long as the difference didnt get any worse i would be passed on my eyes. I intend to go and have the medical in the next few weeks as i have just had a final check by Accuvision and they havent got any worse.
the cost for my one eye treatment was about £1400. it may sound a lot but they are very good.

Roland.
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