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Old 1st Jun 2005, 16:23
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emmathestar,

Urine testing for a wide variety of drugs is quite easy to mask. All of the methamphetamine masking ingredients are conveniently available at your local 7-11. Blood test masking is extremely difficult, although that is often only used here if the police believe that they have a strong case already (it's quite expensive), with urine tests being the normal vehicle of testing for routine checking.

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Old 5th Jun 2005, 18:06
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Question Sigarette Smoking

Ladies and Gentlemen Medical Professionals,

Just wanted to verify some facts about quitting smoking.

1. Is it true, that oxigen balance of the blood can be restored in as little as 20 minutes?

2. Is it true, that the body will test 100% nicotine free after as little as 72 hours of not smoking?

Also, are there specific tests designed to determine if a person used to be a smoker sometime in the past? (Assume an otherwise healthy individual without yellow on the fingers and a Hollywood smile, excellent phisical shape, normal blood pressure, no respiratory problems) Can a longs X-ray tell much in that respect?

Thank you in advance for sharing.
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Old 6th Jun 2005, 13:40
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thanks for explaining the situation.

It wasn't a rhetorical question, just a genuine interest.
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In answer to your first question I assume you mean the 'blowing off' of carbon Monoxide (CO).
CO is a product of incomplete combustion of any flammable product, and is what kills you in gas/exhaust/fires.
CO is bound more strongly to haemoglobin (Hb) than oxygen, and displaces it from same. When the source of CO is removed, it takes some time for the CO to be removed, but a measurable effect on Hb-CO levels could theoretically be seen after 20 minutes (but unlikely). Once you are again exposed to CO, then you bind up your Hb, until it is able to unload it again.
It takes ~ 240 minutes for half of the CO bound to Hb to be eliminated, in room air.
Smokers can have up to 10% Hb bound to CO. Death usually occurs from ~>40% Hb binding.
As for your lungs, I can sometimes tell if someone once smoked by listening to their lungs, and the changes that occur on XRay are generally permanent.
About half of long-term smokers (and a significant proportion of social/2nd. hand smokers) will suffer from chronic changes of smoking (emphysema, cancer etc).
Once the damge is done to the lung, it is irreversible.
Some good news though - if you stop, then then damge need not progress, and from a heart point-of-view, your risk of heart attack and stoke rapidly decrreases.
Hope this helps. Try and keep off the evil weed.
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RabidDog,

Thank you for your reply - very interesting. What sort of changes do you see on ex-smokers' long X-Rays? Do they perhaps shrink in volume, turn black? And I suppose no amount of aerobic exercise can make that picture any better?

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Old 12th Jun 2005, 16:02
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What sort of changes do you see on ex-smokers' long X-Rays?
Come and have a look at a few hundred and we'll teach you what to look out for.

Ref exercise. No.

The only thing that avoids smoking related damage is not smoking; or if you are a smoker: Stop now!
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Old 13th Jun 2005, 22:33
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Old Smokey,

If I was smoking Canabis and had someone give me this jolt to try and get me off the pot for the sake of my future career I would be very greatfull!

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All I can say is they don't call it 'Dope' for nothing.

Flying and drugs DO not mix and never will.

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Old 25th Jun 2005, 13:36
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Old Smokey

Absolutely spot on!
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Old 26th Jun 2005, 21:08
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Weed changes the shape of your brain if you smoke enough, even if it is 'moderated' amounts, Because the part of your brain that reacts to 'Endorphines' or the reward feeling that you get from having sex or eating chocolate or exercise begins to grow and you will want more and more of it. This is the start of the downward plunge. Most people develop cycotic illnesses because of this, schitzophrenia and hallucinations to name a few, so if you smoke cannabis even as a youth and stop for several years, you are at a great risk of becoming re-addicted to the drug. So drugs and alcohol don't mix well with aviation.
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Old 27th Jun 2005, 10:14
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I haven't understood yet:
do they drug test your urine/blood sample during the CAA class 1 initial or not?
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Old 28th Jun 2005, 01:40
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No...............
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Old 28th Jun 2005, 02:11
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But why does it bother me that it bothers you ???
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Old 28th Jun 2005, 07:35
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Almost all of the heavy 'serious' drug users that I see started with pot. That doesn't mean that a pot smoker will graduate to the hard stuff, but they're on the way there, even if they don't finish the journey.
And all the pot smokers started on mother's milk. Which means, using the above logic (or lack of it) that all mother's milk users are on the way to being heroin users, even if they never finish the journey.
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Few people get psychotic from breastmilk.
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Old 28th Jun 2005, 14:33
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Talking

Few people get psychotic from breastmilk.
LOL!!



I feel bothered that someone is bothered about being drug tested, that is, unless of course he is just annoyed about the civil liberty and that sort of things... maybe, but still, the flying medical is not exactly a basic human right, so nothing is being invaded as such, unless you are annoyed about "having your integrity doubted", so to speak.
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Old 28th Jun 2005, 15:05
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I am not bothered about being drug tested!
I did a drug screenings so many times here in Italy for class 1 renewal, and from the threads I understood they don't do that in UK, and it looks strange to me.
I do not use neither alcohol nor any kind of drugs, so they could check what they want... I don't mind!!
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