Hawk

FAA Fit. Glad the thread has been useful. Best of luck with it.
Cheers
Medical Mods.

alberto86

hello,

I'm having a spectrolux lantern test tomorrow.

can somebody tell me what it is like and if it's easier to pass than a holmes-wright lantern?

i'm really anxious about that!!!!

Eddie_Crane

Hey,
some time ago I was researching the UK CAA views on what the refraction requirements could become in the future.
I came across this document:

http://www.amsanz.org.nz/news/2004%2...tification.pdf

it does NOT describe what the Spectrolux lantern test involves but somewhere down the doc there are a couple of snaps that show what the machine looks like... not sure it'll help figuring out what it does.. but it's a start isn't it? ;-)

Good luck,

C

alberto86

Hi,

thank you for the document, but I've already downloaded it a while ago.

I'd better need to hear from people who have undertaken that test and can give me some infos about it, thanks anyway!

wkl

Sorry if this has been asked, I read through and might've skipped past it. Will you be able to do the lantern test even if you fail badly with the Ishihara plates? Do they only offer the lantern test for people who just failed or everyone who fails?

Bendoverstewardess

FAA Fit/JAA unfit,

Just a quick question to all in the know (Esp. FAA fit/JAA unfit).

I read an interesting comment on another website about converting a licence from FAA to JAA.

The person involved had done his FAA PPL/CPL/IR/ATPL all out in the US (along with about 500 hours experience) and obviously had an FAA class 1 medical. He then wanted to come to the UK to fly.

After a few conversations with the CAA, they agreed that he only had to do a class 1 renewal with an AME, rather than the initial @ Gatwick.

Do they test for colour deficiency at class 1 renewals? I have had different answers from different people. If not - that would be a way (albeit quite long-winded) around the CAA's strict colour vision tests.

Any views?

FAA fit / JAR unfit

As you mention in your message, yes, apparently it is a renewal but it will be extended full JAA at an AMC not AME (check link below) and that includes colour vision testing, at least the first time!!
After that, then, I believe that for JAA renewals (not extended or first time) then colour vision testing is not required and then it could be with an AME.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/SRG_MED...CPL_Feb-05.pdf
Hope it helps, but as always, CAA will do whatever they want!!
Good luck..

Blinkz

Hey guys,
Do any of you CVD pilots have any experience with getting Loss of licence insurance? Am in the process of getting it through BALPA and they want to put a vague clause about colourvision onto my policy. If you have any experience with this can you give me a PM. Thanks.

aswind

if i am not wrong someone who fails the Ishihara test in the uk could try only the HW or the Bayne test... mmmh... I'm not sure, no Nagel anomaloscopre available here in thte UK, isn't?

so this means that the nearest one is in Holland... wow...

same thing for the spectrolux.... but you need to go to Zurich....

alberto86

ciao Aswind!

the chief ophtalmologist at the Uk CAA told me there's a Nagel anomaloscope in London!

You should contact professor John Barbur at London City University.
He'll be able to take a color vision assessment on you!!


Fammi sapere se ci vai!

Cheers

aswind

Grazie mille alberto, I'm going to contact them ASAP....
Sure, I'll let you know!
ciao,
a.

Ww/W

Hi all,
I'm a 17yr old currently doing my PPL (Class 2 med), with aspirations of flying commercially somewhere in the world. I've been declared CP4 unsafe by our friends at Gatwick and, since I found out I was CB back when I was 5-6yrs old, have been pretty gutted by the whole thing.
Plenty of people have said to me, "You seem pretty passionate about this, so do something about it". I'm the sort of person who would gladly try and change the system, it's been done to a point in Australia, so why the hell are we stuck in the dark days of CBness being a bar to commercial aviation? Surely technology can overcome this 'boundary'? Or a court case?
I could rant on for hours about the crap techniques in which we are tested for CB in the aviation industry. I had the FALANT test, and failed. Yet I can with no hesitation tell the colour of a/c navigation lights when they pass overhead at night.
This is just helping to let off a bit of steam around people who probably feel the same as I do.
I read recently that JAA are currently reviewing the 'rules' surrounding colour blindess. Is this going to do sweet FA for my cause (will it only be minor changes)?
Anyway for those interested (sorry if it's been shown before) there is an article headlined "Gene Research Sheds Light on Cure for Colorblindness" on the link below. I'd sure be up for it if it works!
http://www.healthlink.mcw.edu/article/1031002361.html
Jon

aswind

Hi all,

I received the UK class one this morning.... I hate the limitations: VCL & NPT... this get me very angry, especially because I am perfectly fit for the italian CAA (ENAC - for those who don't know, Italy is not recognized for medicals... )
However I DON'T GIVE UP! I am sure i can pass the colour visione test!
ASAP (next week?) I'm going to sit the Nagel Anomaloscope here in UK... let's keep fingers crossed! I'll let you know!
For those who are in my same situation.... DON'T GIVE UP, keep your dream going!

a.

alberto86

ciao Aswind,
so could you book an appointment with Professor B. in London? I've sent my spectrolux and pseudo-anomaloscope sheets to Dr chorley at the CAA 10 days ago, I asked him to let me know as soon as possible whether I was going to receive my Class 1 unrestricted, I even gave him my phone number and email address..but I've received nothing so far.., so I'm hoping for the very best..! Are you in Italy or in the UK now?

aswind

Ciao Alberto,
I've been in the UK for 2 months... and I'm gonig to stay here quite long.

Yes, I will sit the Nagel Anomaloscope with City Uni In London (well, they do the complete colour vision test).

CAA normally (for the UK) gets 3-4 days + postal service for letters, certificates and whatelse... this means normally 4-5 days...
For Italy (oh, dear, how I miss my country...) 3-4 days + int'l postal service (4-5 days?)... so could be easily 9-10 days after their verdict about your test...

wish the best!

bishop99

Hi all,
When i took my class one, i messed up the colour vision plates, got quite a few wrong, and was sent to do the lantern test. I passed and found it easy to see the different colours on that test.
When reading a post somebody got one plate wrong and then failed the lantern test so couldnt get his class one.
What i am enquring about is:
Can some people not be colour blind but not be very good at the plates?
And is the test fair as i got loads wrong but passed the lantern?? and another guy did better in the primary test, but failed the lantern?
Im sorry if this is a stupid question, im just wondering.
Also i realise my grammar isnt great so sz bout tht.

bishop99

What a fool if some one the previous message

LST

I recently passed the FAA signal light test (“light gun”) and I am thankfull for the very useful info available in this forum. I would like to offer anyone planning to take this test a few words of advice – and perhaps clear some confusing points and frequently asked questions…

1. Good starting point:
Read the excellent post by Rick M (page 22) and download the pdf document he found http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/e...a/2_027_00.pdf (many thanks Rick).
2. SODA…or not
3. Number of attempts
FSDO examiners vary in terms of how strict they are and whether they will follow the guidelines of the above referenced document to the letter. This includes how they handle a fail. Some, will keep the forms and wait for you to schedule another appointment. (If you read the following tip you hopefully won’t need a second attempt)
4. Preparation Dos and Don’ts
DON’T Practice with a light gun (LG) just by trying to identify the colors and having your buddy or cfi to confirm them. INSTEAD:
DO have your buddy or cfi IDENTIFY the colors while you remain silent. Simply focus on the color that is displayed and try to associate that visual cue with the name of the color being stated by him/her.(to get the “picture”) After doing it a couple of times, then -and only then- practice with the first method.
5. Distinguishing Green and White
Generally, green is “bordering” the blue and yellow parts of the spectrum. In your everyday life you encounter various shades of green. For example: a) Digital camera power light: (closer to the yellow side of the spectrum), b) Airport Rotating beacon : (closer to blue), c) Left wingtip nav light: (usually in the middle of the green spectrum)…My advice: try the prep method described above and you will definitely see the LG green and be able to associate it with the appropriate hue/shade. (for me it’s somewhere between the standard nav light green and the somewhat yellowish digital camera green. (might depend on the specific LG though)
5 Confidence
The moment you were told you have defective color vision your confidence about color recognition went out of the window. Truth is that in most cases the defect is only minor and you should be able to pass the LG test. It is very important to regain your lost confidence before the test (the prep method described above should help)

Good luck to you all

gijoe

Good post!

Does text messaging form part of the National Curriculum?

aswind

Hi mates, need help.
What means for the Nagel Anomaloscope result: Matching range 4-8 ????

thanks.