jetstar1

I have just completed the Farnsworth Lantern to Australian Class I standard (initial issue). Can anyone tell me if I will need to repeat this test for Class I renewals??
Thanks

egbb_2004

Anymore news from anyone?

Confirmed Must Ride

Just a small posting to bring this to the top again.

Has anyone looked into whether there is any conflict with disability discrimination laws in their respective countries. With the work of Dr. Pape and the ambigousness (spelling?) of the JAA rulebook combined with the saftey record of CVD pilots?

I personally always fail the Isihara. I have tried the HW lantern at CAA LGW. They were very friendly but I found the test confusing especially after the 30-40th time of seeing the lights. A normal colour visioned person would have difficulty especially as they alter the hues. When in real life do they alter hues of Red/Green navigation lights?

PedroUSB

Hi

I´d like to know about any lantern test practitioners in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. I´ve been on the net for the last three hours but I was unable to find anything.

It should be a practitioner with either the Holmes-wright, the Spectrolux, the Falant or the Beynes, or any other that would lift any doubts with the requirements for the 1st class medical.

Maybe anyone has information about how to make the test there. I´ll be traveling to Texas in june for a few days, so I may have a chance to go see a doctor, and I want to take the it! If you do have any info, please PM me...

Thanks!

Blinkz

Hey guys, I went to Cologne on wedsnesday to sit the Beyne lantern test again (after failing in gatwick) and I passed! Very chuffed. Now I just gotta hope that the CAA will accept the results. Even if they don't I think I can still do my iniial examination in germany then just transfer the whole Class 1 to the UK.

Good luck to all those still trying, stick to it! Thanks goes to egbb_2004 for all his advice.

Flyin'Dutch'

Well done!

FD

Blinkz

Thanks FD,

Your a FAA AME yea? Will I be able to use the beyne lantern pass in the US? I already have a FAA Class 1 but it has the night vision/colour control limitation.

I've read the FAA AMEs manual and it lists the alternative lanterns that the FAA use, the beyne isn't mentioned. However the FAA seems to be more lienent then the CAA, you think they would accept it? Thanks

Flyin'Dutch'

I think you should be OK but FAA in OKC would have the final say. Check with your local AME who can talk to them to clarify.

FD

Blinkz

Ah the saga continues.

The CAA will not accept the german JAA colour lantern test, as it was not done to their protocols. (- Just because people do things different don't mean there worse )

The doctors at the CAA are meeting on friday to discuss if they will accept a full german class 1 to be converted to a UK one.

I love the JAA

egbb_2004

This really doesn't surprise me! The CAA in this country seem to be so unhelpful in any way that they can. They try to find any excuse to stop people flying. Also they are incredibly slow at actually answering your questions, nobody seems to know what is going on. For example I sent them an email almost two weeks ago in response to one which they sent me and still have not recieved a reply. Now considering that the CAA is a company and not funded by the gvmt, I think that they need to give there PR some thought!!!

Any these are just my opinons.

Whirlybird

Sorry if this has been answered, but despite searching I can't actually find a definitive answer.

I have a prospective student who says he's red/green colour blind, and wants to know if it'll prevent him getting a PPL. So...can he get a Class 2 medical? Failing that, can he get an NPPL medical...though of course that's no good for helicopters.

I'd like to be able to tell him exactly what he can and can't do, before he starts.

Blinkz

Being colourblind will not stop you getting a class 2. however it will have some limitations on it. you will not be allowed to fly at night. If they take a lantern test and pass it you can have this restriction removed (and also get a class 1 if wanted)

Blinkz

ok its offical. The UK will not accept a full german JAA Class 1 medical. You gotta love em

timharrison

Hi everyone,

Does anybody know any (British) pilots who have a colour deficiency, who have gained a JAR Class 1 Medical through passing the Lantern Test and employed with an airline?

Also, are there any other Colour Tests available which will grant you a JAR Class 1 Medical. Ive heard you can go to France, Germany?

Why is it that you can fly on a professional level in Australia and other countries, but not Europe with this condition, is it really a major factor anymore?

Many thanks

Blinkz

I didn't mean liteally copy and paste your question to this forum there are about 3-4 thread full of information on colour vision pilots, which I my self am.

I failed the colour test in the UK, but have passed in Germany. The UK is now refusing to accept this.....ahhh the fun goes on....

timharrison

Thought id give it a try anyway! Thanks for your input, do you think it is a major factor anymore? I am at a stage where i don't really want to shell out a small fortune on training IF, at the end of it i still can't get an unrestricted Class 1 Medical.

redsnail

tim,
The reason Australia has a more relaxed attitude to colour blindness is because of the tireless efforts of Dr Arthur Pape. Read his colour vision site for more info. He worked very hard to get the right to fly.
Note, there is a restriction on the colour defective pilot in Australia. They can only fly in Australian airspace.

timharrison

Thanks redsnail.. much appreciated.

Blinkz

So do you have a Class 1 medical tim? Have you taken any offical lantern tests?

Obviously theres no point training if you have no class 1, but if you do have a class 1 then you should have no problem.

Rabid Dog

I hope your forum is about colour blindness and not cloud blindness, as the latter would surely affect your licence!