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Haraka 6th May 2021 18:45

Also you could get down the pub with the guys and sort some matters out "away from the system"

NRU74 6th May 2021 22:19

[QUOTE=stevef;11039932 There was a choice of Watneys Special, Starlight.. :}[/QUOTE]

Was Watney’s Starlight strong enough to be classified as a beer ?

wowzz 6th May 2021 23:41

I think many on here have rose tinted glasses with regards to pubs of yesteryear.
I started my drinking days in the late 1960s, and in all honesty, most pubs in those days were pretty charmless places. Awful gassy beer, wine like vinegar, and food that nowadays you would throw in the bin.
Over the years, you can now get a decent, well kept beer in most pubs, a reasonable selection of wines (the white will even be chilled) and the food, whilst not fine dining, will be a darn sight better, and cheaper, than you would find in 1969. Yes, the chains have taken over to a large extent, but there are still excellent independent pubs around, although their numbers have diminished drastically, due to CV19, my local favourite pub included.
Given the choice of arriving in a strange town and trying to find a pub for a pint and an evening meal, would you choose 1969 or 2021?

stevef 7th May 2021 07:38


Originally Posted by NRU74 (Post 11040024)
Was Watney’s Starlight strong enough to be classified as a beer ?

From Brew Wales Hall of Shame:
Watneys Starlight - this beer was so weak in strength that a 1971 Sunday Mirror investigation discovered that it could have been legally sold in the United States during Prohibition.

Watney's Starlight - this beer was so weak in strength that a 1971 Sunday Mirror investigation discovered that it could have been legally sold in the United States during Prohibition.

Krystal n chips 7th May 2021 07:55


Originally Posted by stevef (Post 11040168)
From Brew Wales Hall of Shame:
Watneys Starlight - this beer was so weak in strength that a 1971 Sunday Mirror investigation discovered that it could have been legally sold in the United States during Prohibition.

Watney's Starlight - this beer was so weak in strength that a 1971 Sunday Mirror investigation discovered that it could have been legally sold in the United States during Prohibition.

It wasn't alone and had a very close contender in this respect, albeit more akin to sludge dredged from the R.Irwell. For those who have never had the misfortune I refer to both Hydes Mild and Bitter.

ZFT 7th May 2021 08:40


Originally Posted by wowzz (Post 11040043)
I think many on here have rose tinted glasses with regards to pubs of yesteryear.
I started my drinking days in the late 1960s, and in all honesty, most pubs in those days were pretty charmless places. Awful gassy beer, wine like vinegar, and food that nowadays you would throw in the bin.
Over the years, you can now get a decent, well kept beer in most pubs, a reasonable selection of wines (the white will even be chilled) and the food, whilst not fine dining, will be a darn sight better, and cheaper, than you would find in 1969. Yes, the chains have taken over to a large extent, but there are still excellent independent pubs around, although their numbers have diminished drastically, due to CV19, my local favourite pub included.
Given the choice of arriving in a strange town and trying to find a pub for a pint and an evening meal, would you choose 1969 or 2021?

My recollections of the 60s certainly differ from yours.

My late father was an accomplished dart player and from an early age I went with him to all his matches usually as the teams chalker.

Most of the venues were around the Heathrow area and there was an abundance of excellent watering holes that once I had a vehicle I too frequented.

(I wonder how many recall that dash across the river to the Surrey side for that extra 30 minutes drinking?)

Some still survive to this day (or did last time I was able to travel).

Unlike many of the posters on this thread, I’ve never had any difficulty in finding a decent pub anywhere at affordable prices.

BTW - I would choose 1969

spekesoftly 7th May 2021 09:54


Originally Posted by Ancient Observer (Post 11039807)
There were a lot of pubs in Chester. Beer crawls were fun, but challenging.

Back in the mid 1960s there was a total of eleven pubs in Watergate Street alone. Sixth formers from King's School used to partake of a competition known as the 'Watergate Run', to see who could drink a pint in each pub in the shortest possible time! To speed things up, entrants were allowed a 'runner' to go ahead and order their pint, or two halves if preferred. The thought of drinking eleven pints in short order fills me with horror today! Ah the joys of youth.




Cornish Jack 7th May 2021 15:03

This thread has expanded much more than I expected !
I no longer use pubs, but in my 'heyday', (50s/60s) the best areas were in the North, especially around Ripon (is the 'Bull' still in Market Square?). Yates's wine lodge in Harrogate (wooden floors, gas taper taps on the bar and every conceivable bottled drink on the back wall wtth 'proper' barrel draught in the cellar. Many little country inns with landlords who understood how to 'keep' beer. Boroughbridge's straddling the Riding boundaries, meant a dash across the road at 1030 to get the extra 30 minutes. Further North, on a mass para drop exercise, we night-stopped near Alnwick and I was introduced to 'Newkie Brown'. How can anything, so inoffensive-looking, do so much damage !!!
In contrast, Watney's introduced their Red Barrel :yuk: As part of their promotion, they refurbished the Mess bar and had a Grand Opening Night featuring a darts exhibition professional.. Well into 'my cups', I volunteered as 'target for his expertise with 6" nails ! :eek: He removed a lit cigarette from my lips and a Red Barrel key ring from my ear - at this point, common-sense prevailed and I retired - unhurt !.

Jackjones1 7th May 2021 16:05

Who needed to go to a pub in the 60’s when you could always take home a party 7!!

wowzz 7th May 2021 16:45


Originally Posted by Jackjones1 (Post 11040417)
Who needed to go to a pub in the 60’s when you could always take home a party 7!!

And then spend half an hour with a screwdriver and hammer trying to open it ! Happy days.

ExSp33db1rd 8th May 2021 02:13


Watneys Starlight - this beer was so weak in strength that a 1971 Sunday Mirror investigation discovered that it could have been legally sold in the United States during Prohibition.
Why do you drink beer, for the - usually unfortunate - affect that alcohol has on you, or for the taste ? Unfortunately I've yet to find a decent tasting non-alcoholic beer, so unfortunately I'm stuck with the consequences of the regular stuff, e.g limited quantity and can't drive home in case the "You Know Who" are just around the corner.

Why hasn't the World come up with a non-alcoholic beer that still tastes like a decent beer, surely it's not that hard ?

Krystal n chips 8th May 2021 06:10


Originally Posted by ExSp33db1rd (Post 11040679)
Why do you drink beer, for the - usually unfortunate - affect that alcohol has on you, or for the taste ? Unfortunately I've yet to find a decent tasting non-alcoholic beer, so unfortunately I'm stuck with the consequences of the regular stuff, e.g limited quantity and can't drive home in case the "You Know Who" are just around the corner.

Why hasn't the World come up with a non-alcoholic beer that still tastes like a decent beer, surely it's not that hard ?

Breaking news ! New Zealand to announce arrival of first Taxi service !

Mr Mac 8th May 2021 06:47

ExSp33db1rd
Some of the German and Swedish ones are a good try, but ultimately no "buzz"" if you know what I mean.

Cheer
Mr Mac

Slow Biker 8th May 2021 22:12

We had a job near Greenock and on the first evening we found ourselves in the first bar encountered in a less salubrious part of town, The room was narrow with a bench seat along one wall and tastefully decorated with brown tobacco stain. About a dozen men stood at the bar staring silently at the wall with a pint and a whiskey. Well, we are here, so lets have a drink, pint of heavy? ok; pint of heavy? ok and so on until we came to the new team member - a glass of dry white wine please. The barman stood silent for several seconds before announcing 'we don't sell that stuff here son'. Oh dear, this lad needs training, meanwhile lets drink up and get out.

As for British chain pub meals, put them up against the Menu de Jour in any village in rural France. It would be a French walkover.

Uplinker 8th May 2021 22:34


Originally Posted by ExSp33db1rd (Post 11040679)
............Unfortunately I've yet to find a decent tasting non-alcoholic beer, so unfortunately I'm stuck....................Why hasn't the World come up with a non-alcoholic beer that still tastes like a decent beer, surely it's not that hard ?

They have now. Try the low-alcoholic Old Speckled Hen; in glass bottles, (the ones with a blue label). I have bought it from the supermarket and it is very very good indeed. No weird taste, just a deep, rich malty flavour. Yummy.

.

Ancient Observer 9th May 2021 14:48

Er, Mr Speedbird.
Why drink beer in NZ???
With all that luvverley wine available, I would ignore the beer.

radar101 9th May 2021 14:54


Why hasn't the World come up with a non-alcoholic beer that still tastes like a decent beer, surely it's not that hard ?
There are some good ones out there now - not necessarily available in every pub:

Brewdog AF
Brewdog Nanny State ( not AF just very low)
Kama
Sutra
for a lager Beck's Blue is not bad.

TheBugle 9th May 2021 17:03

And when you did open it, realise that it smelled like dog’s breath and tasted absolutely rank.


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