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ATSA1 25th Mar 2021 12:27

might be a good live test of some Anti Ship missiles!

Sallyann1234 25th Mar 2021 12:47

Here's a suggestion for the mariners on board the thread.

It seems that the Ever Given pushed its bow into the bank using up most of its forward momentum, and the stern then swung round to contact the opposite bank. In that case the stern would not be as deeply buried as the bow.

Would it not be worth a try for the Maersk ship behind to put lines on the stern of the Given, and atttempt to pull it back a little?

NutLoose 25th Mar 2021 12:50

Call me old fashioned but before you start with the logisitics nightmare of offloading cargo, wouldn't it be easier to offload fuel?

ShyTorque 25th Mar 2021 13:04

Thank goodness we have a whole range of experts on PPRuNe, able to solve any problem anywhere in the world, from a few photos.

Union Jack 25th Mar 2021 13:06

"Now is the time for all good (gully gully) men to come to the aid of the party"!:ok:

Jack

Sallyann1234 25th Mar 2021 13:14


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 11016100)
Thank goodness we have a whole range of experts on PPRuNe, able to solve any problem anywhere in the world, from a few photos.

If that was aimed at me, I'm asking for a mariner's opinion, not presenting one.

dead_pan 25th Mar 2021 13:14


Meanwhile the CEO of a team of Dutch experts brought in to help the rescue operation warned that the canal could be closed for 'weeks', with workers forced to unload cargo containers stacked some 100ft high on the ship's deck if attempts to dig it out fail.

Peter Berdowski, CEO of Dutch company Boskalis, compared the ship to 'an enormous beached whale' as he warned workers might have to start offloading cargo in order to reduce its weight and get it floating again.

'We can't exclude it might take weeks, depending on the situation,' he told Dutch media. 'It's an enormous weight on the sand. We might have to work with a combination of reducing the weight by removing containers, oil and water from the ship, tug boats and dredging of sand.'
If they're half-decent salvage crew they should be able to string this for at least a couple of weeks.... Kerching!

stagger 25th Mar 2021 13:15

A close up of the digger doing its job...

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1a199c9233.jpg


treadigraph 25th Mar 2021 13:21

You're going to need a bigger digger! (the boat's big enough already...)

Auxtank 25th Mar 2021 13:30

Agree about using the Maersk behind to give the stern a damn good tug round. Probably the best bet at this point as it appears no one's thought to use actual tugs - about 6 should do it - with lines set to port stern cleats acroos the stern and f'wd port cleats.

Dave Gittins 25th Mar 2021 13:37

Don't pretend to be a ship expert, but wouldn't the Maersk ship have too little excess power and a lack of manoeuvrability to be much use ?. Surely better to get some more and bigger tugs to join in with the half dozen eight already there .. They are built for excess power and manoeuvrability.

stagger 25th Mar 2021 13:56

Ok - surely what they need to do is get a very large ship - spin in around and jam it in the mud so it sits across the canal completely blocking it to create a temporary dam downstream of MV Ever Given.

As the water rises the Ever Given will then refloat and errrr.....I'll get my coat.

NutLoose 25th Mar 2021 13:59


Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 (Post 11016105)
If that was aimed at me, I'm asking for a mariner's opinion, not presenting one.

Me too, fuel just seemed to be an easier way to lighten it.

jolihokistix 25th Mar 2021 14:03

Drop those massive anchors first, surely!

visibility3miles 25th Mar 2021 14:13

“Does this canal make me look fat?”

visibility3miles 25th Mar 2021 14:26


Get a fleet of Chinooks to offload them onto lorries to be taken to the nearest container port for re-loading?
Something like that has been mentioned.

It would take a long time...

DType 25th Mar 2021 14:27

DG
I understand they are worried about bending/breaking the ship if they pull too hard!

ThorMos 25th Mar 2021 14:31


Originally Posted by DType (Post 11016158)
DG
I understand they are worried about bending/breaking the ship if they pull too hard!

What? They think they know more than us experts here on JB?
Laughable, just laughable...

We could fill the emptied tanks with hydrogen!

dead_pan 25th Mar 2021 14:32


Originally Posted by Auxtank (Post 11016115)
Agree about using the Maersk behind to give the stern a damn good tug round. Probably the best bet at this point as it appears no one's thought to use actual tugs - about 6 should do it - with lines set to port stern cleats acroos the stern and f'wd port cleats.

Yes yes but what knot should they use? Would a bowline suffice, or should they use a round turn and two half hitches? (I freely admit I'm fast approaching the envelope of my nautical knowledge...)

ThorMos 25th Mar 2021 14:34


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 11016162)
Yes yes but what knot should they use? Would a bowline suffice, or should they use a round turn and two half hitches? (I freely admit I'm fast approaching the envelope of my nautical knowledge...)



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