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ATNotts 15th May 2022 07:56


Originally Posted by Effluent Man (Post 11230408)
Do you think that my 2CV with an EU sticker will buy me preferential treatment?

To comply with the new travel regime I swapped the 'GB' Euro Plates with horrible 'UK' plates that have bloody great Union Flags emblazoned on them.

Car looks as though its owned by raving Brexiteers!

DaveReidUK 15th May 2022 09:59


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11230448)
To comply with the new travel regime I swapped the 'GB' Euro Plates with horrible 'UK' plates that have bloody great Union Flags emblazoned on them.

Car looks as though its owned by raving Brexiteers!

It's legal to drive abroad with just a UK disc/sticker, no need for the Union Flag on your numberplate, in fact the former is mandatory in Spain, Cyprus and Malta regardless of whether or not you have a flag on the plate.

El Grifo 15th May 2022 10:23

I have a sailing boat which I am lucky enough to have berthed in the local Spanish Government fishing harbour.
She used to be Belgian registered and thus flew the Belgian Flag. Rules changed and I was advised to get it UK registered on SSR. This obliged me to fly the British Ensign.

In the circumstances and how England is viewed in Europe, not only because of the Brexit shenanigans but also the grubby actions of The Fat Controller, I searched for alternatives.
A friend suggested the not entirely legal Scottish Ensign, which consists of the Saltire Cross on a red background. The Saltire Cross of course is the flag of Tenerife, which not only amuses the locals, but saves me from waving a discredited rag in their faces !

28 year old, nurtured credibility retained :-)
Gracias Escocia !

El Grifo

ATNotts 15th May 2022 10:37


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11230504)
It's legal to drive abroad with just a UK disc/sticker, no need for the Union Flag on your numberplate, in fact the former is mandatory in Spain, Cyprus and Malta regardless of whether or not you have a flag on the plate.

However as I understand it the Euro Plates are not legal on UK vehicles driving in the EU, so as a law abiding citizen I chose to replace the plates.

alfaman 15th May 2022 21:28


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11230526)
However as I understand it the Euro Plates are not legal on UK vehicles driving in the EU, so as a law abiding citizen I chose to replace the plates.

If the car is older than 1st Jan 2021, then no need to change them, it's not retrospective.

Effluent Man 15th May 2022 21:51

Oh well mine's a 1977.

DaveReidUK 15th May 2022 21:54

Does the EU actually have regulations about what you're not allowed to display ? Provided you are also displaying what the regulations require, that is.

Effluent Man 16th May 2022 05:59


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11230806)
Does the EU actually have regulations about what you're not allowed to display ? Provided you are also displaying what the regulations require, that is.

In my experience of driving in France they don't give a ****. I once got ticked off for cutting corners on a winding Breton road. The only other occasion in 45 years of continental driving that I suffered approbation was in Holland. A police Volvo drew up alongside on a dual carriageway and the cop waved his hand backwards to indicate that I might slow down a bit.

Krystal n chips 16th May 2022 07:07


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11230806)
Does the EU actually have regulations about what you're not allowed to display ? Provided you are also displaying what the regulations require, that is.

Hopefully, not that you see them very much now, thankfully, those green stick on "glare" shields " Sheryl luvs Dezzi 4 Evur "

Elsewhere, today's Excess stirs the "readers " with a suitably jingoistic headline....the complexities and ramifications of a trade war and blatant disregard for a protocol agreement he signed for being better off ignored to ensure they remain blissfully unaware.

Newspaper headlines: 'Radiant Queen' and 'PM's gamble risks trade war' - BBC News


Taken from the Guardian report on Boris's attempt to blame the EU and his lack of interest in N.I...

" They said that it was astonishing that Johnson was flying to Northern Ireland threatening unilateral action and not meeting the group, despite their pleas, adding that the government had shown scant interest in business – with one 15-minute Zoom call with Liz Truss in January and no engagement since."

ATNotts 16th May 2022 07:13

KnC

Reading the Daily Express must be akin to reading Pravda in these times. They both appear to exist in some kind of parallel universe!

Right20deg 16th May 2022 09:00

We have four.... UK stickers on the corners of the car rear window, in addition to registration plate country identifiers "UK with Union Jack". The Union Jack comprising the four flags of the United Kingdom. You have to transit south Glasgow quite quickly and be prepared to use hand signals when appropriate. Eeek.
It does not help us en route Dordogne. You will always have a native just behind your rear window and happy to remain there. Reading the stickers.

Question: does anyone know the hit rate for seized goods at the EU Inspection Irish Sea border ?
I'm thinking of trusted export trader status meats , sausages, cheeses and electrical goods. Guns ? Also illegal immigrants etc. I just can't remember reading about any seizures in the last couple years. What have I missed ?
I read about lots of paperwork and men with clipboards and serious faces. No one is seen dragging a case of naughty sausages off to be destroyed with a controlled explosion and Katya Adler relaying this to the world with a lovely smile for the benefit of Europe.
Now the National Crime Agency and UK Border Force. Formidable.
What a hit rate. Drugs, Racketeers, Gang masters, Illegal Immigrants with no papers. Every week. Impressive stuff.

Ninthace 16th May 2022 09:14


Originally Posted by Right20deg (Post 11230965)
We have four.... UK stickers on the corners of the car rear window, in addition to registration plate country identifiers "UK with Union Jack". The Union Jack comprising the four flags of the United Kingdom. You have to transit south Glasgow quite quickly and be prepared to use hand signals when appropriate. Eeek.
It does not help us en route Dordogne. You will always have a native just behind your rear window and happy to remain there. Reading the stickers.

Question: does anyone know the hit rate for seized goods at the EU Inspection Irish Sea border ?
I'm thinking of trusted export trader status meats , sausages, cheeses and electrical goods. Guns ? Also illegal immigrants etc. I just can't remember reading about any seizures in the last couple years. What have I missed ?
I read about lots of paperwork and men with clipboards and serious faces. No one is seen dragging a case of naughty sausages off to be destroyed with a controlled explosion and Katya Adler relaying this to the world with a lovely smile for the benefit of Europe.
Now the National Crime Agency and UK Border Force. Formidable.
What a hit rate. Drugs, Racketeers, Gang masters, Illegal Immigrants with no papers. Every week. Impressive stuff.

Points of order. The Union Jack is flown on the jackstaff of a ship. Otherwise is should be the Union Flag and I think you will find it only comprises the flags of 3 of the nations of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland.
I would have thought an arch patriot such as yourself would know that.

Cornish Jack 16th May 2022 09:23


Originally Posted by Right20deg (Post 11230965)
We have four.... UK stickers on the corners of the car rear window, in addition to registration plate country identifiers "UK with Union Jack". The Union Jack comprising the four flags of the United Kingdom. You have to transit south Glasgow quite quickly and be prepared to use hand signals when appropriate. Eeek.
It does not help us en route Dordogne. You will always have a native just behind your rear window and happy to remain there. Reading the stickers.

Question: does anyone know the hit rate for seized goods at the EU Inspection Irish Sea border ?
I'm thinking of trusted export trader status meats , sausages, cheeses and electrical goods. Guns ? Also illegal immigrants etc. I just can't remember reading about any seizures in the last couple years. What have I missed ?
I read about lots of paperwork and men with clipboards and serious faces. No one is seen dragging a case of naughty sausages off to be destroyed with a controlled explosion and Katya Adler relaying this to the world with a lovely smile for the benefit of Europe.
Now the National Crime Agency and UK Border Force. Formidable.
What a hit rate. Drugs, Racketeers, Gang masters, Illegal Immigrants with no papers. Every week. Impressive stuff.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
If 'copy-catting' James Joyce's 'Ulysses' was the intention, it has failed !
If that wasn't the intention, might I suggest that you have a strong word with your 'supplier' - someone in the supply chain is doing something nasty to the 'dream powder', 'wacky baccy', or whatever. :=

Ninthace 16th May 2022 09:27


Originally Posted by Cornish Jack (Post 11230974)
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
If 'copy-catting' James Joyce's 'Ulysses' was the intention, it has failed !
If that wasn't the intention, might I suggest that you have a strong word with your 'supplier' - someone in the supply chain is doing something nasty to the 'dream powder', 'wacky baccy', or whatever. :=

I think he was complaining that the system is working but did not realise it. If there are no huge lifts of contraband sausages it means manufacturers are meeting the requirements, perhaps because they know not to would be bad for business.

Expatrick 16th May 2022 10:05


Originally Posted by Right20deg (Post 11230965)
Now the National Crime Agency and UK Border Force. Formidable.
What a hit rate. Drugs, Racketeers, Gang masters, Illegal Immigrants with no papers. Every week. Impressive stuff.

So successful (at bringing migrants safely to shore) that the Navy is being brought in!
Formidable! As the French would say.

Krystal n chips 16th May 2022 10:19


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11230969)
Points of order. The Union Jack is flown on the jackstaff of a ship. Otherwise is should be the Union Flag and I think you will find it only comprises the flags of 3 of the nations of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland.
I would have thought an arch patriot such as yourself would know that.

Even more so with the previous incarnation as one Grotty Y .....legend of the seven seas...and proud sponsor of Shiraz at the Captains table in the yachting club !

Right20deg 16th May 2022 14:16

You are absolutely correct. Four countries, three flags, with Welsh Dragon missing. Technically, Flag or Jack is acceptable. Jack = original R Navy.
The Welsh dragon does not appear on it as when the first Union Flag was created in 1606, the Principality of Wales was already united with England and was no longer a separate principality.

So, thinking of the DUP and the Prime Minister today, does anyone know the rate of seizure of goods at the eu NI border. Is it zero ? Is it nearly zero....and therefore could someone , the eu, cut some slack and let those naughty sausages fill the hearty tummies of our friends in Ireland at a higher rate of knots.
Inspection and customs clearance is so easy with approved and trusted trader procedures that have been around for years in international logistics.
Random spot checks work real well. Or you could just leave it as a poitical weapon.

El Grifo 16th May 2022 14:31


Points of order. The Union Jack is flown on the jackstaff of a ship. Otherwise is should be the Union Flag and I think you will find it only comprises the flags of 3 of the nations of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland
I think you might find ninthace, that the Flag or Jack flown from British ships, is in fact The British Ensign !

El Grifo

Cornish Jack 16th May 2022 15:22

So, thinking of the DUP and the Prime Minister today, does anyone know the rate of seizure of goods at the eu NI border. Is it zero ? Is it nearly zero....and therefore could someone , the eu, cut some slack and let those naughty sausages fill the hearty tummies of our friends in Ireland at a higher rate of knots.
Inspection and customs clearance is so easy with approved and trusted trader procedures that have been around for years in international logistics.
Random spot checks work real well. Or you could just leave it as a poitical weapon.


It would seem that there are some naive contributors whose misplaced faith in the LB and his political 'skills' , include a childish belief in the trust which can be placed in international commerce. The notion that one can rely on the integrity of international hauliers to self-regulate, whether in goods or people (39 Vietnamese suffocated ! ?) is on a par with belief in the 'Tooth Fairy'.
Sloppy thinking, calendar-chasing incompetence has left us with a situation which was obvious to those with commonsense, but was ignored by the devoted dogmatists - and now it's come back to bite !
Giving the query a dignity it doesn't deserve, the "rate of seizure of goods" etc. will, strangely, be dependent on the number and frequency of physical checks !!! With the success rate of border incursions at present, as a guide, the answer will be zero and the evasion rate 100%.
Irritating one's major trading partners with political weaponry is, literally, a 'no-brainer' and, therefore, much favoured by the LB and his xenophobic acolytes.

Ninthace 16th May 2022 15:50


Originally Posted by El Grifo (Post 11231116)
I think you might find ninthace, that the Flag or Jack flown from British ships, is in fact The British Ensign !

El Grifo

Sorry to disappoint El Gifo, but a RN ship has a flag pole at end of the pointy bit at the front. That is the Jackstaff from which the Union Jack is flown when a ship is in harbour, The White Ensign is flown from the pole on the end of the blunt bit at the back. It is not the called the British Ensign as such as there are in fact several Ensigns. The White for warships, the Blue (see Wiki for the multiple applications) and the Red for British registered Merchant vessels. You learn all this and more when you go through BRNC.
Footnote:
The Jack is also flown at the front end of a submarine and the White Ensign at the back, while in harbour, but the blunt and the sharp ends are reversed.


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