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Mr Mac 11th Dec 2021 07:11

Ninthace
I have a feeling that you, and indeed the rest of us, will be in for a very long wait. I had an interesting PM from somebody this week, which I replied to, asking amongst other things for them to come on here and debate the benefits of this Govt, if they felt so convinced, needless to say nothing forthcoming so far. There are a number of posters who seemed to have "disappeared" of late, though I still receive PM,s from some. I would suggest that rather than being banned or what ever, even they find it difficult to defend the indefensible.

Cheers
Mr Mac

PDR1 11th Dec 2021 07:39


Originally Posted by Mr Mac (Post 11154359)
. There are a number of posters who seemed to have "disappeared" of late, though I still receive PM,s from some. I would suggest that rather than being banned or what ever, even they find it difficult to defend the indefensible.

Maybe they all went to a party at No10? One of No10's famous "Schrodinger Parties" - they have a quantum duality in that they simultaneously didn't take place and complied with all the regulations...

PDR

Just a spotter 11th Dec 2021 08:18


Originally Posted by mini (Post 11154244)
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...ocol-1.4752375

I've read this several times but, still can't make out what was actually dropped.

Sorry for the flak, so to speak.

RTÉ's Berexit Republic podcast provides some good analysis of the overall Brexit process, and has rushed out a quick mini-podcast on this development

https://www.rte.ie/radio/podcasts/22040256-ecj-a-ok/

JAS

Grayfly 11th Dec 2021 09:43


Originally Posted by PDR1 (Post 11154366)
Maybe they all went to a party at No10? One of No10's famous "Schrodinger Parties" - they have a quantum duality in that they simultaneously didn't take place and complied with all the regulations...

PDR

Ooh, I like that as a concept and it may even become a three word soundbite at some point if anyone can make it fit.

Cornish Jack 11th Dec 2021 11:13


Originally Posted by PDR1 (Post 11154366)
Maybe they all went to a party at No10? One of No10's famous "Schrodinger Parties" - they have a quantum duality in that they simultaneously didn't take place and complied with all the regulations...

PDR

Typing delayed to stifle repeated outbursts of giggling !!!!
Absolutely brilliant and tailored for Private Eye - please offer it to them :D

PDR1 11th Dec 2021 17:14


Originally Posted by Cornish Jack (Post 11154475)
Typing delayed to stifle repeated outbursts of giggling !!!!
Absolutely brilliant and tailored for Private Eye - please offer it to them :D

Not mine - I nicked it from last night's "Dead Ringers" on radio4

PDR

Krystal n chips 16th Dec 2021 14:12

Brexit's contribution to the UK economy can never be understated...or to the added expenses soon to incurred. Fantastic deal really !

Wonder if cars with trailers will include glider trailers and those smaller ones used to carry everything including the kitchen sink which can't be stuffed into a roof pannier or the car.

Van drivers in UK will need new operating licences to enter EU from May | Brexit | The Guardian

Avionker 16th Dec 2021 14:27

I really do not understand why the EU are making things so difficult. They need us more than we need them don’t they? Trust them to renege on the oven-ready deal, making the easiest trade deal in history problematic. Blahh blahh blahh…:suspect:

Brexit, taking back control….:}

El Grifo 16th Dec 2021 14:27

The benfits tumble forth like manna from heaven !
All us Europeans can do is stand back and gasp with amazment !!

El Grifo

ATNotts 16th Dec 2021 15:18


Originally Posted by El Grifo (Post 11156862)
The benfits tumble forth like manna from heaven !
All us Europeans can do is stand back and gasp with amazment !!

El Grifo

The only benefit the PM can come up with is that Brexit enabled the UK to get ahead with Covid-19 vaccinations as we didn't have to wait for the EMA approval......of course that is fake news, but it didn't stop Johnson trotting it out again last evening.

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LowNSlow 16th Dec 2021 15:23

What a shame that the EU cannot treat licences valid in their country of origin as valid in the EU like the UK does.


Driving in Great Britain on a non-GB licence

You can drive any type of vehicle listed on your full and valid licence

If your vehicle is insured in the EU, Andorra, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, Serbia or Switzerland, you should carry either:
  • an insurance ‘green card’
  • other proof of insurance
To be valid, your other proof of insurance must be a document issued by the insurer of the vehicle and include the:
  • name of the insurer
  • number plate or other information to identify the vehicle, for example the vehicle identification number
  • period of insurance cover


Ninthace 16th Dec 2021 16:23

It is don't think it is a question of driving licences but the requirement to have an operator's licence/certificate, It is not new as far as I know, nor is it the EU suddenly making up a rule. It has been known about, but ignored by you know who, since before the referendum. Just another of those details that got glossed over at the time.

If you read the article it has been postponed more than once and will work both ways.

charliegolf 16th Dec 2021 16:40


Originally Posted by PDR1 (Post 11154366)
Maybe they all went to a party at No10? One of No10's famous "Schrodinger Parties" - they have a quantum duality in that they simultaneously didn't take place and complied with all the regulations...

PDR

Propagates as a meeting, but interacts as a party-cle.

CG

Avionker 16th Dec 2021 17:02


Originally Posted by LowNSlow (Post 11156884)
What a shame that the EU cannot treat licences valid in their country of origin as valid in the EU like the UK does.

The following is from the website of Transport Styrelsen, the Swedish equivalent of DVLA.

Licences issued outside of the EEA

For a driving licence issued outside of the EEA to be valid in Sweden, it must be valid in its country of issue and not have been exchanged for a Swedish licence. The driving licence is not valid if you have been a registered resident in Sweden for over one year. If you have a driving license from the United Kingdom or the Faroe Islands, you can use it in Sweden, even if you have been registered resident in the country for more than a year.

Exchanging driving licences from non EEA countries

Only driving licenses from the United Kingdom, the Faroe Islands, Switzerland or Japan may under certain circumstances be exchanged for a Swedish one.

Exchanging driving licences issued in United Kingdom, the Faroe Islands, Switzerland or Japan

A driving licence issued in United Kingdom, the Faroe Islands, Switzerland or Japan may be exchanged for a Swedish licence. To be able to exchange the licence, you must meet the personal and medical requirements for a Swedish driving licence and be a permanent resident in Sweden. Find out more about permanent residency below.

If you need to continue driving a car without interruption, it is essential that your application to exchange your licence is received by the Swedish Transport Agency within one year after you first register in Sweden, as your foreign licence will no longer be valid after this period.

What is permanent residency?

Permanent residency refers to a place where a person lives for at least 185 days every calendar year owing to
  • personal and professional connections, or
  • personal connection characterised by close ties between the person and the place where he or she lives.
If you live alternately in two or more states because your professional connection is not the same as your personal connection, your permanent residency will be the place to which you have a personal connection. This applies on condition that you go back there regularly.

However, if you are carrying out a time-limited task abroad, you need not go back regularly to the state where you have personal connections - you will be regarded as a permanent resident of that state anyway.

If you study at the university or any other educational institution, this will not affect your permanent residency.


Not sure where you’re getting your information about EU countries not reciprocating from but your source is obviously not as impeccable as you may think.

LowNSlow 17th Dec 2021 14:46

Avonker, indeed the BBC article was a little misleading at first reading. As you say, EU countries do accept private licences for vehicles under 2.5 tonnes.

The UK Government website clears up the issue which is a requirement for a commercial operator's licence rather than a driving license per se.


Ninthace 18th Dec 2021 11:20

France demonstrates control of own borders despite being in the EU
https://newsthump.com/2021/12/16/bre...e-being-in-eu/

DaveReidUK 18th Dec 2021 12:03


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11157771)
France demonstrates control of own borders despite being in the EU
https://newsthump.com/2021/12/16/bre...e-being-in-eu/

Love the bit about the French bricking up the Channel Tunnel.

BizJetJock 18th Dec 2021 15:08

Beautifully funny, but ignores the minor detail that since the UK is not in the EU, the rules are different. But never let reality get in the way of a good story! :)

Alsacienne 18th Dec 2021 17:11

....... even if you're bricking it ..............

wiggy 18th Dec 2021 21:11


Originally Posted by BizJetJock (Post 11157845)
Beautifully funny, but ignores the minor detail that since the UK is not in the EU, the rules are different. But never let reality get in the way of a good story! :)

The exact rules may be different but let’s not forget (?) in earlier iterations of Covid related restrictions several countries, including France, did put in place at times strict controls on their (internal to EU) Borders.

The “joke” headline is perhaps closer to the truth than some might think.


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