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Originally Posted by Ninthace
(Post 11139647)
They do if they have a mind to. On the other hand, in the good old days, out of date tax discs did not seem to bother them if the car parks at French regional airports were anything to go on.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 11139671)
Given the manner in which the UK is expected to act over the Irish border I can see the French and others becoming rather more robust with the rules where British vehicles are concerned.
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man
(Post 11139640)
I have never used a country identifier. I don't think French police care. I have got a blue and yellow Ecosse sticker, although I'm not a Scot.
For info https://www.thelocal.fr/20210902/uk-...ing-in-france/ It is important to note who is introducing the new requirement…. |
Originally Posted by wiggy
(Post 11139696)
For info
https://www.thelocal.fr/20210902/uk-...ing-in-france/ It is important to note who is introducing the new requirement…. |
Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11139669)
I don’t feel I know enough to make a solid argument for or against;
CAP seems on face value to be quite wasteful so I’d have to agree with you there. In an ideal world what would you replace it with? CFP, was under the impression this was mainly positive for EU member states? After all, the U.K. population don’t tend to consume much more than cod and haddock, so most of their catch is shipped overseas. Does erecting trade barriers therefore not have a detrimental effect on the U.K. fishing industry which far outweighs not being a part of CFP? within that framework each state had flexibility how that was applied, the priorities are entirely different in Spain compared to Sweden. The UK took the Cap options and “gold plated” them making them all but impossible to administer and hopelessly wasteful. |
Originally Posted by Deltasierra010
(Post 11139739)
The CAP was designed so that Europe could be self sufficient in food, also the quality and environmental impact was good,
within that framework each state had flexibility how that was applied, the priorities are entirely different in Spain compared to Sweden. The UK took the Cap options and “gold plated” them making them all but impossible to administer and hopelessly wasteful. Going back to my question this morning, I wonder what other EU laws we will be good to be rid of now out of the EU.. Anyone got any more? |
I do hope so, as it would be fun to see some of the confrontations, though if the EU reciprocate by making you take them off to drive in the EU it could become more farcical.
Cheers Mr Mac |
Originally Posted by Deltasierra010
(Post 11139739)
The CAP was designed so that Europe could be self sufficient in food, also the quality and environmental impact was good,
within that framework each state had flexibility how that was applied, the priorities are entirely different in Spain compared to Sweden. The UK took the Cap options and “gold plated” them making them all but impossible to administer and hopelessly wasteful. Also any back up to the "gold plated" comment. Disallowance rates were higher than most other M/S. |
Ninthace
Yes. Still waiting for any Brexiteer to point to the delivery of any one of the so called advantages that made it all worthwhile. Shouldn't be too hard, just pull out any of your old leaflets and go through them. Come on, there has to be something positive you have achieved. Anything? I dip into Jet Blast occasionally to read stories relating to aviation. Wouldn't this particular echo chamber find a more natural home on another site? |
Originally Posted by blimey
(Post 11139861)
HGV or work in hospitality. Both areas where wages have increased due to a lack of cheap EU labour.
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Originally Posted by blimey
(Post 11139861)
Ninthace
Though not being classed as a Brexiteer, I presume you don't drive an HGV or work in hospitality. Both areas where wages have increased due to a lack of cheap EU labour. All as predicted by Lord Rose https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...endum-35707955 I dip into Jet Blast occasionally to read stories relating to aviation. Wouldn't this particular echo chamber find a more natural home on another site? |
Thinking back, I don’t actually recall a campaign that said let us precipitate a supply chain crisis or drive the hospitality industry to the wall by causing a labour shortage but if you say it is a good thing, I believe you.
Hands up who voted for Brexit to put truck drivers’ wages up? |
Some analysis on how things Brexit have panned out and the current impasse from Martin Wolf in The Financial Times, 9th Nov 2021
On the UK economic performance; In its Economic and Fiscal Outlook last month, the Office for Budget Responsibility concluded that “since . . . November 2016, our forecasts have assumed that total UK imports and exports will eventually both be 15 per cent lower than had we stayed in the EU. This reduction in trade intensity drives the 4 per cent reduction in long-run potential productivity we assume will eventually result from our departure from the EU.” To put this in context, this is twice the estimated long-run costs of Covid and, in today’s value, is £80bn a year. So far, outcomes are close to the earlier forecasts. The UK’s trade with the EU is shrinking relative to what would otherwise have happened. This will not be offset by other trade. That will impose costs in perpetuity. On the impasse over the Northern Ireland Protocol Particularly striking is the implication that this protocol — consciously and, one must assume, knowingly agreed by Johnson himself two years ago — was somehow “uncertain” and drawn up in “extreme haste”. In fact, its consequences were quite foreseeable. That is why Theresa May, his predecessor, rejected the idea of splitting Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK in this way. If Johnson did not understand what he was signing he was incompetent. If he did, but had no intention of abiding by the deal he signed, he was dishonest. JAS |
Originally Posted by blimey
(Post 11139861)
Ninthace
I dip into Jet Blast occasionally to read stories relating to aviation. Wouldn't this particular echo chamber find a more natural home on another site? Look, we get it. You made a bad choice and you are embarrassed by it. Why not man-up and admit it rather than trying to stop others discussing just how cretinous the decision was and what we might try to do to mitigate the monumental stupidity of those who got us here. PDR |
Originally Posted by PDR1
(Post 11144350)
pausing only to order the execution of any journalists who refuse to regurgitate your official lies from The Glorious Leader (may the world bow down at the slightest waft of His Sacred Flatulence).
Always nice to have a tame media outlet for propaganda disinformation purposes... Geordie Greig ousted as editor of the Daily Mail | Geordie Greig | The Guardian |
I am a remainer and happy to be so. While I recognise there are many things wrong with the EU, I think the evidence shows there are many more things wrong with Westminster and Boris and his followers. I can understand, but do not agree with, the desire to regain our independence - whatever that may mean, because we were always a sovereign nation even when within the EU.
What I find foolish beyond belief was, for mainly ideological reasons, to leave the single market, the customs union and, for aviation, EASA. I wonder how many Brexiteers are now having second thoughts. |
I wonder how many Brexiteers are now having second thoughts.
Pedant to the last, I must question if there was ever a first thought ? :ugh: |
Ha! Ha! Cornish Jack. Very good!!!
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Originally Posted by Bergerie1
(Post 11144359)
I am a remainer and happy to be so. While I recognise there are many things wrong with the EU, I think the evidence shows there are many more things wrong with Westminster and Boris and his followers. I can understand, but do not agree with, the desire to regain our independence - whatever that may mean, because we were always a sovereign nation even when within the EU.
What I find foolish beyond belief was, for mainly ideological reasons, to leave the single market, the customs union and, for aviation, EASA. I wonder how many Brexiteers are now having second thoughts. But if you mean the less committed Brexit voters, then I’d guess the 4% margin would be gone, or wafer thin. Were a political party with some conviction and vision were to offer the public a series of solutions to apparently interminable problems (such as a more balanced and perhaps fairer economy, less stressed “communities”, a fair and believable immigration policy and positive trade and political relations with the EU), I think they could carry a lot of the electorate with them. And then the swivel-eyed loonies and faux peoples’ politicians would have to crawl back into their holes. Because they have absolutely nothing to offer in substance on the issues listed above. And I am sure people know that in their hearts. |
The thing is, accepting that you got something very important wrong is a very high level, almost emotional, ego step. Many, being bright enough to see the evidence will know, but just won't concede. That's pride. Thicker people (the, take back control, fund the NHS, secure our borders con victims) will never concede they were wrong. The former, were there a vote down the line...mmm.
CG |
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