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Captain Boycott 15th Oct 2021 16:56

The modern day Conservative Party have clearly taken a hardline with the brutal aim of staying in power by whatever means possible. The red wall are central (at least for now) so in some ways Alex Johnson and his cabal are pussy footing to the red walls emotions. The Red Wall emotions will clearly be dropped at the point they become no use to Tories staying in power. Our standing on the world stage, our patriotic outlook, our values, our community, our reputation and image and even the continuation of the Union are very much secondary to whatever it takes to maintain a presence in control of the funds and decisions that come with the keys to number 10 Downing Street

Many people clearly donít understand this. Thatís why Tory policy doesnít make too much sense to many people. It does however make perfect sense to just enough people to keep a majority.

Anyone who thinks the current govt care less about world image and the Union really arenít paying attention.

Really sad to see another politician stayed today. Absolutely no place in society for this kind of thing. Awful news.

NutLoose 15th Oct 2021 18:15


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11126785)
Well I wouldn't trust a member of the "Paisley clan" further than I could throw one, and as for Johnson....

Agreed, met the ďReverendĒ. When he invaded my space, he soon departed it when I told him what I thought.

alfaman 16th Oct 2021 01:50


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11126785)
Well I wouldn't trust a member of the "Paisley clan" further than I could throw one, and as for Johnson....

Indeed, like being asked to decide which turd one prefers...what a sorry state of affairs.

Effluent Man 16th Oct 2021 07:52

Wife taught Paisley snr's granddaughter. His son has a church near us. She said the girl's parents were nice people. Our opinions on religion are probably the polar opposite to theirs. We are atheist fundamentalists.

PDR1 16th Oct 2021 09:11


Originally Posted by Mr Mac (Post 11125194)
Nomilk
How many Bay Leaves do you require, as we have a rather large bush of it at home in UK, quite happy to send you as much as you like.

You could be onto a winner - set up an e-shop auctioning your surplus bay leaves over the interwebs. You could call it "E-Bay"...

[I'll fetch my coat]

PDR

DaveReidUK 16th Oct 2021 09:46

Or bayBay ...

Cornish Jack 16th Oct 2021 10:52

... or Bay buy ... bye-bye :O

ATNotts 19th Oct 2021 17:25

Food price rises are terrifying, says industry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58962049

It will be very interesting so see how the UK government manages to blame this one on Covid-19; or indeed the international container shipping crisis. It is clearly neither, but is actually Brexit related, whether that be due to higher wages to attracted farm workers, or higher haulage costs because of the shortage of truck drivers exacerbated by Brexit. I suppose they will try and blame the CO2 or natural gas prices.

Whatever happened to The Govester's cheaper food post Brexit? Another almighty porky (excuse the pun)!!

Mr Mac 19th Oct 2021 20:05

ATNotts
Maybe bringing in food rather than Gin in future 😢

Cheers
Mr Mac

Krystal n chips 26th Oct 2021 09:13

Just in case those who are supportive of Brexit felt the problems were now in the past, alas, not so.

Here's the latest involving " how scrutiny works", or rather doesn't and that bastion of incompetence (not entirely unique in the court of the cult of Boris), one Lord Frost.

Sorry to shatter any leavers tranquil delusions

European scrutiny committee puts on stunning display of collective amnesia | John Crace | The Guardian

Denti 26th Oct 2021 10:17

How is Mr. Cash (and the little fat Lord Snowflake) surprised by this?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-row-claims-mp

If one acts in bad faith in one part of a partnership, is it really surprising that the other partner is hesitant about continuing to implement other parts of said partnership? Especially, considering that the bad faith actor has not implemented his side of an earlier agreement?

ATNotts 26th Oct 2021 10:31


Originally Posted by Denti (Post 11132450)
How is Mr. Cash (and the little fat Lord Snowflake) surprised by this?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-row-claims-mp

If one acts in bad faith in one part of a partnership, is it really surprising that the other partner is hesitant about continuing to implement other parts of said partnership? Especially, considering that the bad faith actor has not implemented his side of an earlier agreement?

Mr Cash ad many other Brits appear to be the opinion that as we're British we're entitled to behave this way. It's another example of British exceptionalism that may well have worked when we were pushing around the likes of India and vast chunks of Africa back in the 19th and early 20th century but doesn't was when you're in a situation where you aren't "top dog" anymore and more powerful groups such as the EU aren't afraid to say "Boo!" to you.

Deltasierra010 26th Oct 2021 11:05

The UK signed the Withdrawl Agreement, all 2 zillion pages of it with no intention of carrying out the obligations, the EU were expecting this because of the way that the negotiations were carried out in such bad faith. The UK were convinced that they had a “negotiating position”, we never did, ever, and redline after redline passed, it was simply that the EU have rules for everything and we fit in with those.
Regardless of that we made it much worse by leaving ALL the EU regulatory systems, Transport, VAT, Safety, Labour, Aviation and others, we could have stayed in EASA but right wing ideology thinks we can do better living in isolation.

Bergerie1 26th Oct 2021 14:45

There was a time when an Englishman's word was his bond. It seems those days have passed. Signing treaties with little intention of complying with them is not only disgraceful but is also undermining our position in the world. Or perhaps I am just a naive old git who doesn't understand the modern world.

Alsacienne 26th Oct 2021 15:51

Bergerie1, I think you and I are members of the same club ...

Mr Mac 26th Oct 2021 16:22


Originally Posted by Alsacienne (Post 11132596)
Bergerie1, I think you and I are members of the same club ...

Alsacienne
Can I join, or is there a waiting list 🙂

cheers
Mr Mac

Effluent Man 26th Oct 2021 17:32

Noticeable lack of Brexit defenders suddenly. I think that it has dawned on them that they have been sold a distemper ridden pup.

ATNotts 26th Oct 2021 17:36


Originally Posted by Effluent Man (Post 11132630)
Noticeable lack of Brexit defenders suddenly. I think that it has dawned on them that they have been sold a distemper ridden pup.

I doubt it. More likely they are wringing their hands simply failing to grasp why we won't accept the fact Brexit has happened and just go away.

BizJetJock 26th Oct 2021 17:56

Or given up wasting their time and effort on people who have no intention of listening to any reasoned argument since their minds are made up? As I have said previously, the epithet "gammon" most definintely applies to the remainers on here.

Effluent Man 26th Oct 2021 17:59


Originally Posted by BizJetJock (Post 11132642)
Or given up wasting their time and effort on people who have no intention of listening to any reasoned argument since their minds are made up? As I have said previously, the epithet "gammon" most definintely applies to the remainers on here.

I am eager to be convinced by the positives. Go ahead, make my day.


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