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I’m still waiting to hear one benefit of Brexit, yet alone the Brexit dividends we were promised. Admit it, either you Brexiteers were too thick to see through the lies, or you voted leave because of your little englander, racist philosophy of keeping foreigners out. If it is the latter, I would have far more respect for your vote if you just admitted it, rather than trying to justify what is so obviously an irrational decision otherwise
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Originally Posted by Arch Stanton
(Post 11003901)
I’m still waiting to hear one benefit of Brexit, yet alone the Brexit dividends we were promised.
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Originally Posted by antheads
(Post 11003912)
Scratch your head and have a think... it's staring you right in the face.. Britain has vaccinated 30 percent of it's population with the first jab. Germany a pitiful 6 percent, other EU countries far less. This will literally save thousands of lives and as we reach full vaccination the European Union will lag behind for months with more deaths. . If that isn't a benefit that can be seen as point of difference between how GB and EU work then i don't know what is. But it's so much easier to bleat about racism and muh Britain Bad
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That's the first 'bogus benefit' debunked!!
Anyone got one that actually holds water? |
Well he is in Oz. Maybe he thinks that some benefit will accrue to his own country. Who said the benefit had to be to the UK? Arguably the EU are better off too, having got shot of us.
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Originally Posted by antheads
(Post 11003912)
Scratch your head and have a think... it's staring you right in the face.. Britain has vaccinated 30 percent of it's population with the first jab. Germany a pitiful 6 percent, other EU countries far less. This will literally save thousands of lives and as we reach full vaccination the European Union will lag behind for months with more deaths. . If that isn't a benefit that can be seen as point of difference between how GB and EU work then i don't know what is. But it's so much easier to bleat about racism and muh Britain Bad
Was it the EU or was it italy who decided to stop the shipment of vaccine to australia? |
I suspect the real reason why LTNMan voted for Brexit was because it would stop the influx of Eastern Europeans and stifle the progress of WZZ.
And yet, Polish people (as an example) still have access to 26 other countries as a freedom whereas our own population have to follow the 90/180 day rule. Aviation workers massively disadvantaged in comparison to our European cousins. |
Originally Posted by antheads
(Post 11003912)
Scratch your head and have a think... it's staring you right in the face.. Britain has vaccinated 30 percent of it's population with the first jab. Germany a pitiful 6 percent, other EU countries far less. This will literally save thousands of lives and as we reach full vaccination the European Union will lag behind for months with more deaths. . If that isn't a benefit that can be seen as point of difference between how GB and EU work then i don't know what is. But it's so much easier to bleat about racism and muh Britain Bad
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Originally Posted by ThorMos
(Post 11003946)
Did 'being in the EU' stop Czech republic from sourcing the 'Sputnik' vaccine from russia?
Was it the EU or was it italy who decided to stop the shipment of vaccine to australia? Answering it honestly means admitting that the UK never lost sovereignty when it was a member of the EU. |
Originally Posted by wiggy
(Post 11003957)
I suspect you're wasting your time asking those sorts of questions..
Answering it honestly means admitting that the UK never lost sovereignty when it was a member of the EU. |
Public Health Warning : Scoured news ! ...and you wouldn't believe how deep I had to delve here...
Anyway, lets say it isn't good news....it appears that well known combination of Gov't planning and communication has continued in the time honoured tradition.....along with a few budget cuts.....thankfully, Dido's paltry £37bn escaped these ......Boris will doubtless class this state of affairs as being "oven ready " . British ports say they are not ready for Brexit customs checks | Business | The Guardian |
Originally Posted by antheads
(Post 11003912)
Scratch your head and have a think... it's staring you right in the face.. Britain has vaccinated 30 percent of it's population with the first jab. Germany a pitiful 6 percent, other EU countries far less. This will literally save thousands of lives and as we reach full vaccination the European Union will lag behind for months with more deaths. . If that isn't a benefit that can be seen as point of difference between how GB and EU work then i don't know what is. But it's so much easier to bleat about racism and muh Britain Bad
One thing to keep in mind however, while germany has only vaccinated around 6%, and around 3% with both doses (UK 1,6%), it also has managed to kill 70.000 fewer of its own citizens while having 20 million more inhabitants and suffering a far less economic decline. And of course, it has been able to offer free hospital capacity to its neighbors on all sides as it has a very high number of both ICU beds and staff for it. Of course, as others here have pointed out, it is not the EU per se doing the vaccination program, in fact, until late summer 2020 the EU had absolutely no authority in anything health related except common standards. It was, and largely still is, in the authority of each member country. And each of those has its own and very unique health system with a very different setup compared to other EU countries. |
I wonder why so many brexiters confuse brexit with the exceptional vaccination rollout in the UK |
‘Just give me one benefit of Brexit’
Well, one simpleton stuck his head above the parapet and claimed leaving the EU allowed us to vaccinate more people than if we had remained inside. That was debunked immediately. So, can any brexiteer give us one example of a Brexit dividend. Please, please try, an extra 350 million quid a week for the NHS, or how well the fishing industry would succeed outside the EU?....anybody? |
Well Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping and kim jong un all thought it was a good idea, what could go wrong? :uhoh:
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Originally Posted by antheads
(Post 11003912)
Scratch your head and have a think... it's staring you right in the face.. Britain has vaccinated 30 percent of it's population with the first jab. Germany a pitiful 6 percent, other EU countries far less. This will literally save thousands of lives and as we reach full vaccination the European Union will lag behind for months with more deaths. . If that isn't a benefit that can be seen as point of difference between how GB and EU work then i don't know what is. But it's so much easier to bleat about racism and muh Britain Bad
The biggest problem we ever had being in the EU was instead of looking at regulations and abiding to the letter, we had to abide by the whole bloody alphabet!! |
Originally Posted by handysnaks
(Post 11004065)
It’s all they’ve got, and it keeps alive their hope that the EU collapses.
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Delusional Utopianism. The Ottoman Empire and the Soviet Union disagrees with you. Don't see a reintegration there after a 'step back.' For Greater Yugoslavia comrade! The European monetary experiment is nearly over thank god. It won't survive the next financial shock.
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Originally Posted by highflyer40
(Post 11004136)
The biggest problem we ever had being in the EU was instead of looking at regulations and abiding to the letter, we had to abide by the whole bloody alphabet!!
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Originally Posted by antheads
(Post 11004315)
Delusional Utopianism. The Ottoman Empire and the Soviet Union disagrees with you. Don't see a reintegration there after a 'step back.' For Greater Yugoslavia comrade! The European monetary experiment is nearly over thank god. It won't survive the next financial shock.
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