It would make no difference had 14 million got off their arses, indeed many probably had their nappies changed, but as under 18s they had no say. So that is 30 million. However 16 million of those did vote so it is only 14 million lard arses. A fair portion of those were not franchised as the otherwise had free board and lodging. Many in hospital too would not vote for many reasons. We had one wife of, her husband had been taken to A&E and could not vote. Individual stories but cumulative there would be a million or more that could not vote and did not have a postal vote.

There are many traditionalists that prefer to vote in person, for instance my 94 year old MiL would not dream of getting a postal vote. She voted, many could have been thwarted.

How that 14 million could be proportion ed is a guess.

Any chances to see some considered, well substantiated and non-derogatory arguments in favour of Brexit on this forum ?

Avionker
 

You sound jealous. No luck with the ladies?

Are they so deeplyl burried you might be unable to unearth them ?
Or are they no longer valid now that actual facts and numbers have emerged ?

BTW, just questions, my friend, not trying to infer you didn't read correctly, ignore things etc.^^!

A comparison that is far from valid, the UK Government dont want a border and hardly want to stop migration from Eire

I do agree with the swamp draining bit, though to be honest by the noises they constantly make they hate the UK so much they might be better off in Brussels the land of the free (to toe the line)

Probably be mentioned before .... Have just received my new passport and notice the words "European Union" no longer adorn the front cover. (It's still that maroon colour though!)

Fly Airpt
 

My reason for voting to leave was that I did not want the UK to be one of twenty eight states in a Federation of a United States of Europe ruled from Brussels ( or where ever it happens to be in any given month ). Remainers turn a blind eye to this yet they cannot deny the ongoing unification. Perhaps the EU parliament, it's flag. it's national anthem, it's ambassadors etc. aren't evidence enough.
I have no objections to being in a trading arrangement with the EU but it's evolved into far more than that.
Would some Remainer like to say how he foresees the EU in a few years time ?

There were also, to my direct knowledge, a significant number of expats who were entitled to vote but who lost out because the postal vote system was putting politely, rather "sub-optimal..."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a7103066.html

ATB...

I foresee the EU a lot better off in a few years' time without the constant bitching of the UK and our wanting to keep the special privileges. But still with the benefits of the Human Rights written by the UK - that we ourselves may have dropped. And much less troubled by countries wanting to leave - the Italian exiters have already given up after seeing what happened to the UK.

How do you see the UK in a few years' time?

If the EU could find a way to get shot of Denmark and much of the Visegrad group it would be in even better shape - it would look pretty much like the group of countries that started the whole thing off!!

.....and the UK. Even more in hock, and reliant upon the alleged "special relationship" with the USA. Great joy (not)!

Where did you see it was about changing people's minds ?
I was just asking about well considered arguments in favour of Brexit on this forum.
Anyone able to provide some is most welcome.
And you're most welcome providing none, sir.

Awww, bless . Another lured by the eternal urban myth of a United States of Europe.

To answer your question however. Considerably better of without the crèche level politics and petulance of the UK along with prospering as a developing organisation unifying, rather than dividing, Europe.

Now ask me where I think the UK will be in comparison ....ok, to save you asking....struggling, still in political turmoil, being more and more dependent on a one sided trade "deal " with Trump Inc. enduring a recession with job losses and rising prices........and with the population slowly but surely beginning to realise the crock of gold at the end of a rainbow is more likely than the UK benefitting in any remote way after our act of political and ideological self harm by voting to Leave.

Cameron is due to have his book published very soon...there's also a documentary planned.....I kindly mentioned this earlier, so you will be able to be enthralled when Dave tells us all why it was such a top hole whizzo idea to hold a referendum ......

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Thanks for providing your reason for leaving.

Airprt
 

Vote Labour..... Vote Leave.... or erm Remain...... You couldn't make it up, but they have.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49646544

Hmmmmm and I have thought of a little ditty for their campain (Spelling deliberate)

Except regarding the small matter of giving the public a say on the terms of our leaving, or remaining you can say pretty well the same about the Tory party.