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fab777 9th Sep 2019 08:48


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10565419)
Comments like that make me even more determined to leave the EU.

Leave, then.

Oh wait...

TURIN 9th Sep 2019 09:23


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10565419)
Comments like that make me even more determined to leave the EU.

Why?
When you consider the childish and insulting attitude of Farage and his cronies over the past few years I'm amazed the EU hasn't just thrown us out!

frampton 9th Sep 2019 09:41


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 10565463)
Why?
When you consider the childish and insulting attitude of Farage and his cronies over the past few years I'm amazed the EU hasn't just thrown us out!

It is not "us" they want, it is our monetary contribution.

bulldog89 9th Sep 2019 10:08


Originally Posted by frampton (Post 10565481)
It is not "us" they want, it is our monetary contribution.

We're begging you, just leave ASAP please. I can't stand this level of BS anymore.

NutLoose 9th Sep 2019 10:37

I agree, although Italian politics are not exactly a bed of roses.

NutLoose 9th Sep 2019 10:39

Amber Rudd going on about time spent on no deal, surely that is simply playing catch up on getting it in place in case it happens, as May didn't bother.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49623737

Expatrick 9th Sep 2019 10:41


Originally Posted by bulldog89 (Post 10565498)


We're begging you, just leave ASAP please. I can't stand this level of BS anymore.

I am afraid the BS won't stop - it will just switch to "you kicked us out, you wouldn't give us a deal", etc.

Una Due Tfc 9th Sep 2019 11:01

Even in Ireland we’re fed up. Latest estimates are our economic growth would slow to 0.9% as a result of a Hard Brexit.

Stay or go, but please end this pathetic spectacle.

And remember, when it comes time for you to seek a trade deal with the EU, the backstop will still be there.


wiggy 9th Sep 2019 11:03


Originally Posted by Blossy (Post 10565187)
So you agree with your supreme leader M. Napoleon Macron (who's popularity rating can't fall much further)?

Funnily enough his rating has been rising in recent months..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nch-poll-shows


How's the yellow vest protest doing?
Since you ask ATM it's pretty much dead in the water.

FWIW I'm not fond of the "humility and respect" comment ( though I thought us Brits weren't meant to be thin skinned, and Brexiters only think of others, not themselves as snowflakes, just goes to show..) but some politeness and an ability to reach agreement through compromise, and being seen to be able to collaborate with other parties might have been helpful....but it's too late now. UK politicians have given the impression of being willing to p.... inside and outside the tent at the same time....it's not an attractive quality if you are looking for partners to work with.


NutLoose 9th Sep 2019 11:29

Tandem p>>>ers? Interesting ;) Glad i'm not in your tent.

frampton 9th Sep 2019 13:01


Originally Posted by bulldog89 (Post 10565498)


We're begging you, just leave ASAP please. I can't stand this level of BS anymore.

Me neither, Bulldog89. 17.4 million UK "leave" voters will be eternally grateful if you could ensure that your EU official(s) veto's any UK request for a membership extension beyond 31st October 2019.

Avionker 9th Sep 2019 14:57


Originally Posted by frampton (Post 10565629)
Me neither, Bulldog89. 17.4 million UK "leave" voters will be eternally grateful if you could ensure that your EU official(s) veto's any UK request for a membership extension beyond 31st October 2019.

Grateful maybe, but eternally? Very much doubt it. Not when reality bites.

bulldog89 9th Sep 2019 15:24


Originally Posted by frampton (Post 10565629)
Me neither, Bulldog89. 17.4 million UK "leave" voters will be eternally grateful if you could ensure that your EU official(s) veto's any UK request for a membership extension beyond 31st October 2019.

Not in my power, sorry, but why is the UK asking for another extension if you want to leave? It's would be the second one...
Pretty difficult to understand from the EU perspective to be honest...I mean, it's the UK asking for more time, not the EU.

I suspect Brexit was an internal plan made up by NF and BJ to get more votes but slipped out of control when the people really voted to leave. Now everyone knows it will be a mess and the UK politicians are waiting for the EU to terminate the UK membership, so when things will go baaaaaadly they could always blame the EU for kicking them out when the UK wasn't ready. The British public will fall for it as it's the most convenient truth to believe and the directors of this catastrophe will keep their votes...

NutLoose 9th Sep 2019 16:20

Bercow going. As he was told that the Conservatives were going to field someone else against him in his Conservative constituency, I think he has finally woken up, smelt the coffee and made up a load of bull poo to make it look like it is his decision instead of being given the heave ho.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4232411.html

PC767 9th Sep 2019 16:35


Originally Posted by bulldog89 (Post 10565729)


Not in my power, sorry, but why is the UK asking for another extension if you want to leave? It's would be the second one...
Pretty difficult to understand from the EU perspective to be honest...I mean, it's the UK asking for more time, not the EU.

I suspect Brexit was an internal plan made up by NF and BJ to get more votes but slipped out of control when the people really voted to leave. Now everyone knows it will be a mess and the UK politicians are waiting for the EU to terminate the UK membership, so when things will go baaaaaadly they could always blame the EU for kicking them out when the UK wasn't ready. The British public will fall for it as it's the most convenient truth to believe and the directors of this catastrophe will keep their votes...

The UK isnít asking for more time, neither is the UK government. Opposition MPs and a hand full of Conservative MPs in parliament are. Unfortunately they are the majority in parliament. Johnson wants an election on 15th October which will effectively be a second referendum. The house will either be elected to leave or remain and Brexit can finally be dealt with. Unfortunately the opposition donít wish for this, maybe because polls show Johnson would be a runaway winner. And Brexit would follow. Those polls in favour of Johnson suggest that the public still want Brexit.

Cornish Jack 9th Sep 2019 16:41

Me neither, Bulldog89. 17.4 million UK "leave" voters will be eternally grateful
and the non-grateful 44 million, or so, other UK citizens should accept this piece of political crass stupidity?

Expatrick 9th Sep 2019 16:48


Unfortunately the opposition donít wish for this, maybe because polls show Johnson would be a runaway winner. And Brexit would follow. Those polls in favour of Johnson suggest that the public still want Brexit.
Except that No.10 currently only expect to win 300 seats...

OilCan 9th Sep 2019 17:09


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 10565780)
Bercow going. As he was told that the Conservatives were going to field someone else against him in his Conservative constituency, I think he has finally woken up, smelt the coffee and made up a load of bull poo to make it look like it is his decision instead of being given the heave ho.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4232411.html

You might be right, but credit where credit's due, what timing.

Perhaps very un-parliamentary in normal times but certainly within current precedence. He may well have shot the fox of the Scruffy Lying Bumbling Blimp.

wiggy 9th Sep 2019 17:18

From the Canadian Press..



We begin this editorial with an apology to you, our faithful readers. In March, we described the Brexit situation, then careening through its third year and nowhere close to resolution, as an “omnishambles.”

An omnishambles is a state of utter chaos, total disorder and perfect mismanagement – which brings us to our apology. If you’ve been paying any attention to British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, you know that, in declaring United Kingdom politics to have reached peak shambolic six months ago, we spoke too soon. Oh, did we ever.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/...mpression=true

racedo 9th Sep 2019 17:44


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 10565780)
Bercow going. As he was told that the Conservatives were going to field someone else against him in his Conservative constituency, I think he has finally woken up, smelt the coffee and made up a load of bull poo to make it look like it is his decision instead of being given the heave ho.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4232411.html

Nope

In all probablility if John Bercow runs again he will be re elected.

Even were he to quit the Tory party he would be still in with a good chance given his Buckingham constituency voted Remain.


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