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BehindBlueEyes 21st Jun 2018 09:20

Nespresso - pretentious? Moi?
 
Now, I love my Nespresso machine. Really convenient and clean. Nice strong cup of coffee without all the mess and rather a handsome, industrial looking beast on my kitchen work surface. I’ve got a fancy little carousel pod holder alongside it so I can see just what particular flavour coffee I fancy. However, and please keep this quiet, I can’t actually tell the difference between these pods! When I go on the Nespresso website, I read all the flavour descriptions and their origins but I’ve sometimes ended up ordering the pods because I like the colour!!

I started to wonder if the coffee pod industry is a little like The Emperors New Clothes? No one actually wants to put up their hands and say...actually, I don’t get it at all. It made me do some googling and I found this article which seemed to sum up my experience completely:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti.../drink.comment

i would also add that my machine is also in on the game. Nespresso lost the exclusive patent to produce the particular pods for its machines several years ago, supposedly meaning one could buy cheaper versions from other suppliers. My coffee maker can detect an imposter immediately and will mangle and crush any that I dare to drop down its hatch.

treadigraph 21st Jun 2018 09:41

A guardian article I agreed with, blimey!

I have one of those filter percolator jobbies which has been stuffed into the bottom of a cupboard for the last few years; i use a plunger job now with Kenyan coffee ... mmmm.

For a really nice coffee I go to a great little Italian cafe in Croydon. I always get an extra large cup these days cos they like me for some strange 1reason. Best of all, instead of some pansy biscuit on the side, it comes with bacon, eggs, sausages, etc... Just digesting one now as a matter of fact...

DaveReidUK 21st Jun 2018 09:48

Is it true that George Clooney was only invited to Harry and Meghan's wedding in order to serve the coffee at the reception ?

Barksdale Boy 21st Jun 2018 10:07

Good to see that, in "Our Girl", Captain James favours Nespresso Rosabaya capsules. More seriously, here in Hong Kong Nespresso always offers you the opportunity to hand back used capsules for recycling - it's not too difficult to do that.,

rifruffian 21st Jun 2018 10:10

References to packaging, labelling, pricing ambiguities...............makes me think of the wine trade.

( The very best tasting wine and by far the lowest cost is the stuff I make myself. )

annakm 21st Jun 2018 11:11

I bet they all drink Nespresso at Common Purpose conventions!

Pontius Navigator 21st Jun 2018 12:24


Originally Posted by Prophead (Post 10178167)
Recycling still uses resources and generates waste. Not to mention those that do not bother. Far better to not use that needless packaging in the first place.

And different areas have different rules. Our last council only took #1 and #2 plastics and no glass. Our new one takes plastic and glass. Neither require us to remove windows from envelopes but both require recycling to be washed. Neither consider the water and heating waste and costs.
Mrs PN has yet to grasp the art of separating waste.

oldbeefer 21st Jun 2018 13:40

I use Lidl compatible capsules, and can't fault the taste (at much lower cost). They are accepted by the machine with no problems.

neila83 21st Jun 2018 13:49


Originally Posted by Prophead (Post 10178113)
These are my pet hate.

How on earth, in this day and age of trying to decrease packaging and waste are these deemed acceptable? We have them at work and there are about 10 flavours all in there own boxes. Each cup of coffee requires taking out an individual pod then throwing it away. Granted they recycle but that's hardly an answer is it? The amount of packaging for a cup of coffee is criminal but nobody seems to mind as its fashionable.

As spoken about in the article, it's not just the capsules either, we have elaborate wooden boxes and chrome racks to store them.

I purposely bring in a jar of instant and stand by the kettle listening to them all speaking twaddle about how the Guatemalan has a more refined taste than the Ristretto whilst they try and use the machine that resembles the controls in the Wizard of Oz.

Fully agree, it´s absolute madness not to mention that you can make a far better cup of coffee with a french press for a fraction of the price. What is it they say about a fool and their money...

BAengineer 21st Jun 2018 14:06

I'm still happy with my Mr Coffee drip machine - the only waste is the filter full of coffee grounds.

Fareastdriver 21st Jun 2018 14:26

I use a thin glass jug with a metal strainer gizmo on the top. Take the gizmo off, a good dessertspoon of coffee in, boiling water, a pause to get the cups and then press the filter down.

Excellent coffee and various world flavours are about £1.50/200gms of which each last about a week.

Pontius Navigator 21st Jun 2018 14:58


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 10178374)
I use a thin glass jug with a metal strainer gizmo on the top. Take the gizmo off, a good dessertspoon of coffee in, boiling water, a pause to get the cups and then press the filter down.

Excellent coffee and various world flavours are about £1.50/200gms of which each last about a week.

you mean a cafetiere. We have a metal one, double skin,keeps the coffee warmer longer, and I get to have 3 good sized mugs.

At work my PA always had a filter jug ready for when I arrived.

vctenderness 21st Jun 2018 14:58


Originally Posted by oldbeefer (Post 10178325)
I use Lidl compatible capsules, and can't fault the taste (at much lower cost). They are accepted by the machine with no problems.


i agree. However the Aldi ones give me a problem as they seem to ‘implode’ and the coffee drips out at a snails pace!

i was recently browsing in my local Poundland, as you do, and I found boxes of Taylor’s of Harrogate Italian blend capsules for, obviously, £1 I scooped up the lot as they are on sale in most supermarkets at £3 a pop.Bargain!

Fareastdriver 21st Jun 2018 15:04


you mean a cafetiere. We have a metal one, double skin,keeps the coffee warmer longer, and I get to have 3 good sized mugs.
Mine's a small one, one mug; I'm not that fond of coffee.

Nigerian Expat Outlaw 21st Jun 2018 15:59

An alternative is a bean to cup machine. Can't get much fresher than grinding beans, pressing through water and into the cup all at once, so to speak. And the only waste are the coffee grounds.

NEO

Espada III 21st Jun 2018 19:05

I can tell the difference between some of the pods but only in the sense of bitter, smooth and added flavour. However the Nespresso chocolate '''flavour' is noticeably very good.

Senior Paper Monitor 21st Jun 2018 19:27

We take our home/office (team of 6) coffee seriously - clients and visiting reps appreciate getting away from Nescafe instant (gets lots of unsolicited compliments).

We use a Dualit (https://www.nisbets.co.uk/dualit-3-i...5-33b436c50041) 'Italian style' mini coffee machine - replaced every couple of years or so but it does get some hammer - with a variety of ground coffees (all get to choose and even do their own mixes - my favourite,normally, a 2:1 belnd of Illy black and Waitrose Expresso as an Americano). We have an an ex-Costa girlie who does much of the coffee, and 'her indoors' got 'coached' by Mr Worrall Thompson's barista of the day.

All in all, still cheaper than the Nespresso solution, a bit of a talking point and damn fine coffee that most people notice and appreciate.

Pontius Navigator 21st Jun 2018 19:42

One NATO unit would brew a pot of filter first thing. Throughout the day more coffee and water was added. You can imagine the flavour at knocking off time.

Rwy in Sight 21st Jun 2018 19:45

The main advantage of the local (about 25 minute walk) Nespresso boutique is they insist on offering an espresso/cappuccino when one walks in to buy a box of capsules. Hpwever my sister with excellent italian connections still use the old espresso machine to be used on a stove.

DaveReidUK 21st Jun 2018 19:57


Originally Posted by Nigerian Expat Outlaw (Post 10178457)
An alternative is a bean to cup machine. Can't get much fresher than grinding beans, pressing through water and into the cup all at once, so to speak. And the only waste are the coffee grounds.

I agree - however you choose to make your coffee, the biggest single factor affecting the taste is using freshly-ground beans.

larssnowpharter 21st Jun 2018 20:41

I wouldn't call myself a coffee snob but I do like a good espresso.
I use a 30 year old Bialetti stovetop machine with Illy pre-ground coffee. This after years of experimentation and 10 years living in Italy. Spare seals are easy to find and the coffee is, shall we say, intense.
As an aside, the Italians would describe an 'Americano' as ''aqua sporca' or 'dirty water'.
One recommends this system to those who enjoy good coffee without cluttering kitchen worktops with a load of naff junk.

meadowrun 21st Jun 2018 20:53

Cowboy coffee.
Water, coffee, fire.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...54a0736cce.jpg

WingNut60 22nd Jun 2018 02:54

In the old (previous) Jakarta Terminal 1 was a kiosk promoting and selling "Organic Luwak Coffee"; all under a large illuminated sign to that effect.

I had to agree. You can't get much more organic than passing the beans through a native civet cat.

krismiler 22nd Jun 2018 03:27

These pod machines follow the same principal as razors, sell a cheap handle and make your money supplying them with expensive blades. Useful in a hotel room or VIP lounge for providing better than instant coffee simply and with no mess, but at home I'll stick to my machine which uses which ever beans I like rather than restricting me to pods.

Sure there is a bit more cleaning up afterwards but it isn't that hard.

I can't see the need for a fancy machine costing around a thousand pounds, full of electronics and moving parts which are guaranteed to break at some stage, simply to make a cup of coffee. When my current coffee maker gives up the ghost I'll probably replace it with a really old fashioned one, heavy and enameled with an analogue gauge for steam pressure and a simple ON/OFF switch

Ascend Charlie 22nd Jun 2018 06:04


You can't get much more organic than passing the beans through a native civet cat.
In Oz, the sports commentators HG Nelson and Roy C Slaven spoke of an Aussie slant to this one:

Stitch a koala's bum shut, then force-feed it with coffee beans. Leave for a few days to fester and deepen the flavour, then tie a string around his neck and dunk him in boiling water.

Fareastdriver 22nd Jun 2018 07:19


then tie a string around his neck and dunk him in boiling water.
Remember to unstitch its backside first.

dook 22nd Jun 2018 08:27


Neither consider the water and heating waste and costs.
There are none if you do it like me - clean jars etc. in the washing up water after the dishes.

Our council takes almost anything and we don't have to separate things.

sidevalve 22nd Jun 2018 10:06

There's a common thread here - the rate of change of technology is leaving many of us with several generations-worth of assorted kit gathering dust around the house. (think cameras.. I must have about 5 or 6 generations of cameras - from Pentax SLR film to Panasonic Lumix digital).
For making coffee, for the past few years we've been using a Krups Dolce Gusto jobby for day-to-day coffee (quick, adequate and convenient) but never bothered to work out the cost per cup.
Buried somewhere in the kitchen there's one of those piston-like cafétières.. haven't used it for years.
At one time, we had a drip filter machine (long relegated to the cellar) that was OK.
I once had a fancy-looking Italian espresso machine - all shiny metal and valves that looked the part (bought in Italy during Op Deny Wife) but I was never able able to make it perform satisfactorily (it didn't have a manometer) - so I gave it away. The recipient gave me one of those Italian espresso coffee pots with the octagonal sides (a bit 60s) - again, more trouble than it was worth.
I'm sure if I burrowed around in the garage or the cellar I could turn up some others.
Best of all? We have a briki for making Greek coffee (actually Greek Cypriot coffee - Charalambous Moka Gold brand - available online) which is my preferred "Sunday best" drink..This is the king of coffees in my view.. Nothing else comes close - for me. Think espresso flavour x 10..!
I must say that Senior Paper Monitor's Dualit machine looks the biz (oh no - here I go again! :{)

NutLoose 22nd Jun 2018 12:45


Granted they recycle but that's hardly an answer is it? The amount of packaging for a cup of coffee is criminal but nobody seems to mind as its fashionable.
Yet no one blinks an eye at binbags, where is the logic in wrapping your rubbish up in another plastic bag?? I have never got over the irony of people buying an item specifically to throw it away.

Blacksheep 22nd Jun 2018 12:54

We have a Nespresso Dolce Gusto. Coffee in the morning, hot chocolate before bed time. We like it because its quick, clean and convenient.

No doubt something different will be along some time in the future; for now its the dog's b*llox.

Fareastdriver 22nd Jun 2018 12:54


where is the logic in wrapping your rubbish up in another plastic bag
You cannot have smelt the old steel rubbish bins that were left in your front garden after the dustmen had emptied its contents into their side loaded refuse lorry..

Geordie_Expat 22nd Jun 2018 13:04

Me too, except its Nescafe Dolce Gusto. Absolutely fine.

Pontius Navigator 22nd Jun 2018 19:58


Originally Posted by dook (Post 10179022)
There are none if you do it like me - clean jars etc. in the washing up water after the dishes.

Our council takes almost anything and we don't have to separate things.

What washing up water? We use a dishwasher. I guess we could use the water from the tumble drier.


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