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vctenderness 8th Sep 2017 16:56

Juncker slightly worse for wear!
 
Nice to see one of the most senior EU officials sharing his enthusiasm after a couple of sherbets....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

qwertyuiop 8th Sep 2017 17:29

It's very hard to take him seriously isn't it.

Super VC-10 8th Sep 2017 17:38

Who are you, Mr Juncker? Who are you? (to paraphrase Nigel Farage)

VP959 8th Sep 2017 18:15


Originally Posted by qwertyuiop (Post 9886146)
It's very hard to take him seriously isn't it.

That's a slight understatement...............

He illustrates much of what is unacceptable about the whole EU experiment, along with all the others that are on the same gravy train.

A shared market makes a great deal of sense, and is something I'd wholeheartedly support. The sort of federal Europe, led by incompetents like Juncker is one of the main reasons I'm opposed to the UK being within the EU.

I've never understood why the great idea of a common European trading entity couldn't have stopped at that point, with only enough common regulation to make trade straightforward and tax and cost efficient amongst member nations. All this federalist crap is wholly unnecessary and will be unworkable, anyway.

G-CPTN 8th Sep 2017 18:26


Originally Posted by VP959 (Post 9886195)
I've never understood why the great idea of a common European trading entity couldn't have stopped at that point, with only enough common regulation to make trade straightforward and tax and cost efficient amongst member nations. All this federalist crap is wholly unnecessary and will be unworkable, anyway.

Hear hear! :ok:

Jet II 8th Sep 2017 18:30


Originally Posted by VP959 (Post 9886195)

I've never understood why the great idea of a common European trading entity couldn't have stopped at that point, with only enough common regulation to make trade straightforward and tax and cost efficient amongst member nations. All this federalist crap is wholly unnecessary and will be unworkable, anyway.

To be fair, that was never the aim of the project since it was conceived. The proponents never hid that the project was for a federal United States of Europe.

It was UK politicians who lied and claimed it was something different.

Cazalet33 8th Sep 2017 18:38


The proponents never hid that the project was for a federal United States of Europe.
De Gaulle certainly hid that one rather well. His veto "Non, non,non" was a masterstroke in that cunning plan.

Jet II 8th Sep 2017 18:45


Originally Posted by Cazalet33 (Post 9886216)
De Gaulle certainly hid that one rather well. His veto "Non, non,non" was a masterstroke in that cunning plan.

Well DeGaulle knew that the UK wouldnt fully take part in a United States of Europe and would be a drag on implementing that plan - and he has been proven correct.

Super VC-10 8th Sep 2017 19:37

De Gaulle was also correct in that the UK should never have been allowed to join the EEC in the first place.

Nemrytter 8th Sep 2017 20:56

Yep, you've been a thorn in the side ever since. EU will, in the long run, be better off without the UK.

Shack37 8th Sep 2017 21:26

Posted by Nemrytter



Yep, you've been a thorn in the side ever since. EU will, in the long run, be better off without the UK.

IF there is a long run.

virginblue 8th Sep 2017 22:01

Problem is that continental Europe sees the EU as a politicial concept for mutual gain, whereas the UK has always seen it as an economic concept serving the interests of the UK. And quite obviously these two concepts don't mix very well. The mistake was made almost 50 years ago to let the UK in in the first place. With all kinds of concessions and rebates the UK was kept in, but since Brexit the overall feeling is really "good riddance".

Rosevidney1 8th Sep 2017 23:03

Let them say that as much as they want. The UK has been a nett contributor throughout its membership. Let those remaining countries pick up the slack. Will it curb the grandiose bureaucrats spending plans? I expect reality must sink in eventually.

treadigraph 9th Sep 2017 00:25


A shared market makes a great deal of sense, and is something I'd wholeheartedly support. The sort of federal Europe, led by incompetents like Juncker is one of the main reasons I'm opposed to the UK being within the EU.
More or less my opinion.

arem 9th Sep 2017 19:29

And mine!!!!!

Old Nic 9th Sep 2017 22:44

What an odious example of a human being

Krystal n chips 10th Sep 2017 08:01


Originally Posted by Old Nic (Post 9887226)
What an odious example of a human being

He certainly is.....no dispute about that definition.


In pictures: Nigel Farage's love of beer - Telegraph

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dr...w=1280&bih=855

Old Nic 10th Sep 2017 08:47


Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 9887424)


WTF????, Do you have to twist every thread to fit your agenda?

sitigeltfel 10th Sep 2017 08:52


Originally Posted by Old Nic (Post 9887226)
What an odious example of a human being

Agreed, but he and Verhofstadt are the Brexit campaigns best recruiting sergeants.

ORAC 10th Sep 2017 09:14


Agreed, but he and Verhofstadt are the Brexit campaigns best recruiting sergeants.
Amongst others.......

EU’s Mr Big ‘in threat to belt reporter’

The German Eurocrat widely considered to be the most powerful man in Brussels has been accused of threatening to punch a political journalist in the mouth. Martin Selmayr, chief of staff to the European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker, reportedly told Peter Müller, Europe editor of the German magazine Der Spiegel, that he would “smack” him in the “gob”.

Selmayr who made headlines after being blamed for leaking details of a meeting between Theresa May and EU officials earlier this year, is said to have shocked guests at a reception for German bankers. Flanked by aides, Selmayr, 46, was holding a glass of white wine when he allegedly told Müller : “Arseholes do arsehole journalism — you’ll never get any information from me.” He was apparently angered by a Der Spiegel report revealing that he had refused to take a call from Greece’s prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, during an interview with Müller. “Had I met you then [after the interview was published] I would have smacked you in the gob,” Selmayr was reported as having said in a loud voice.

Der Spiegel reported the incident yesterday but said Selmayr denied having uttered the threat. A source present during the incident said: “None of us working in and around politics are sensitive, but, frankly, this was a shocking display of aggression.”


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