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obgraham 28th Aug 2015 18:23

There's a big difference in how these "refugees" are thinking, compared to the way my own father migrated with me.

In the past, a refugee or migrant went somewhere else to get a better or safer life, having decided that the way people lived there was better -- he wanted to live like them, by joining their society.

Now, the migrant figures he can live like he used to, but in a new place, without all the hassles, and get support there too. He has no intention of joining his new society.

Mr Oleo Strut 28th Aug 2015 19:19

When things fall apart in their new countries perhaps they'll fold up their tents and shimmy off back from whence they came.

Mr Oleo Strut 28th Aug 2015 19:35

Its blindingly obvious to me that unlimited immigration cannot be allowed to continue anywhere otherwise ethnic societies will rebel and violence will result. This is beginning to happen now in the west and will get worse. The majority of illegal immigrants to the west are Muslims who seek to import their values so I have to ask myself why they don't go to other Muslim states, especially the rich ones, with whom they have more in common. I think I know the answer...

G-CPTN 28th Aug 2015 19:39

Whereas importing Christian values and democracy is acceptable?

obgraham 28th Aug 2015 21:49


Originally Posted by G-CPTN (Post 9098256)
Whereas importing Christian values and democracy is acceptable?

Yes .

Metro man 29th Aug 2015 02:38

In Thailand the military steps in periodically to stabilise the country when the civilian rulers have let the situation degenerate into chaos. Six months with the army in charge in the UK would soon gave the situation sorted out. No huggy fluffy nonsense, illegals rounded up and deported, borders secured. Laws enforced regardless of race or religion.

Once things are back on track, return to civilian rule. Repeat as and when necessary.

Europe is being invaded and occupied, the only difference is during a war it happens faster and the other side wear uniforms.

HeartyMeatballs 29th Aug 2015 05:54

Well personally I think the foreign aid we send should be redirected to those in need who are flocking to Europe. They're going to arrive, there's nothing anyone can do to stop that. Money is needed to pay for them.

Instead of going to corrupt governments, nuclear powers, countries with a space program, NGOs taking their cut or projects like Ethiopian Spice Girls, I propose the funds all stop and redirected to Europe. These people are in desperate need of food, warmth and shelter. It's important to ensure the foreign aid we send us spent wisely and actually goes to those in need.

Our Western European way of life ended a long time. We have ourselves to blame for that. However, I hate to see people suffering. No matter what your creed and no matter what theirs is (and how much they mate hate yours), they're human beings at the end of the day. There will be murderers, terrorists, rapists and god knows what, but a majority of them are just people reaching out for help and the chance to live a life.

Just my 2 pence.

skydiver69 2nd Sep 2015 17:15

The media continually calling it a 'refugee crisis' is misleading because as far as I can see most of the migrants come from peaceful countries and are looking for work or handouts rather than a genuine safe haven. Many people are travelling from Bangladesh, Pakistan, Iran and Nigeria which are not war torn countries and as such need sending back as soon as we become aware of them.

charliegolf 2nd Sep 2015 17:31


so I have to ask myself why they don't go to other Muslim states, especially the rich ones, with whom they have more in common. I think I know the answer...
No white girls to abuse?

CG

4mastacker 2nd Sep 2015 19:31

Anyone else notice those "migrants/refugees" chanting "Shame on you" in English outside Budapest's railway station. What was that all about? Why use the English language in Hungary, which has its own language, to protest about whatever they were protesting about? Couldn't have had something to do with the presence of a BBC reporter and camera crew...could it??

G-CPTN 2nd Sep 2015 20:24


Originally Posted by 4mastacker
Why use the English language in Hungary, which has its own language,

I doubt that many (if any) of those protesting would speak Hungarian, and, anyway, English is the lingua franca of choice (as ani fule kno . . . ).

ETOPS 2nd Sep 2015 22:32


English is the lingua franca
Very good :ok: Or should I say très bien

G-CPTN 2nd Sep 2015 22:57

According to an interview today with David Cameron, the number of Syrian "genuine asylum seekers from refugee camps" taken by Britain is 370 (I cannot substantiate this, just working from memory).

A Labour spokesperson (Harriet Harman?) pointed out that they would all fit into one airliner . . .

June 2015 article.

Metro man 2nd Sep 2015 23:15

Stock up on pork and alcohol while you still can, as these will be first on the banned list once these people form the majority. Buy burkas now so that the females in your household can get used to wearing them as they won't be allowed outside without them.

Pay a visit to your local mosque and enquire about converting to Islam, your job prospects will be severely limited if you don't.

Start learning about Sharia law and make sure you start living according to it now so you will have a much easier time once it gets implemented.

Or you could control immigration.:hmm:

MTOW 2nd Sep 2015 23:50


The faces of refugees then and now

Those of the past were humbled by their humiliation.

Those of the present are brash, demanding and use violence to achieve their mission, they insult their prospective hosts. Refugees of the past were genuine, grateful, prepared to work and assimilate into the host’s culture. Today most are not genuine.

They are arrogant colonisers and unassimilable. The following pictures need no captions. Then and now is obvious. Then had positive, social outcomes. Now will have disastrous social outcomes.
The faces of refugees then and now ? News

Sadly, for far too many of the young men leaving the country of their birth for Europe, the US or Australia, the only thing they didn’t like about life in their home countries was that THEY were not the ones wielding the whip hand there.

So they come to the West with a clear plan to address that small problem in the new lands they have self-selected.

Private jet 3rd Sep 2015 00:00

Personally I think there's a war on the way. I don't mean a Bliar crusade type war, I mean a real guerilla civil war, and whoever ends up running the Labour omnishambles, Corbyn, Mrs Balls-up or whoever, with their opinions its virtually guaranteed.

Krystal n chips 3rd Sep 2015 06:59

Now, just another sad and, frankly, emotive statistic, but formerly.......a human being.

How many more there are like this poor soul we may never know....

Still, he won't be a threat to you Mail reading, "Wisteria Lane" existence now will he.?

Shocking images of drowned Syrian boy show tragic plight of refugees | World news | The Guardian

Rail Engineer 3rd Sep 2015 07:51


Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 9103890)
Now, just another sad and, frankly, emotive statistic, but formerly.......a human being.

How many more there are like this poor soul we may never know....

Still, he won't be a threat to you Mail reading, "Wisteria Lane" existence now will he.?

Shocking images of drowned Syrian boy show tragic plight of refugees | World news | The Guardian

So what exactly is it that makes is this a unique UK issue to resolve ?????


Perhaps you can tell us when you would STOP people from coming here ? Is it when we have people living in massed camps in parks, on the streets, when we no longer have medical facilities to deal with them ? When we no longer have any money to support the services ? When we have to get the Army to uphold law and order as inevitably their petty squabbles are brought into the Country with them ?

SOPS 3rd Sep 2015 08:02

That is my question. How much is enough. Or is Europe expected to take in the entire population of Africa and the Middle East, no questions asked?

This is going to get real ugly real soon. And all the hand wringing politicians are going to have a huge problem. They should have been turning the boats around as soon as this started. It is all too late now.

tony draper 3rd Sep 2015 08:08

First thing any government should do in a crisis like this is round up every foregn reporter journalist and TV news camera team in their country,and stick em in a camp somewhere very isolated.


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