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Seldomfitforpurpose 18th Nov 2014 15:33


Originally Posted by rgbrock1 (Post 8747703)
sffp wrote:



that tipping point will come as well. Probably more likely than the other tipping point.

I have no doubt it will, but do you think the use of a gun will be required?

rgbrock1 18th Nov 2014 15:50


I have no doubt it will, but do you think the use of a gun will be required?
A gun? No. Many of them.

Seldomfitforpurpose 18th Nov 2014 16:12


Originally Posted by rgbrock1 (Post 8747734)
A gun? No. Many of them.


I have a feeling that your next election wont require the use of firearms in any way, shape or form :ok:

rgbrock1 18th Nov 2014 16:17

sffp:


I have a feeling that your next election wont require the use of firearms in any way, shape or form
The next election won't, of course not. However, depending on who gets elected, the aftermath might indeed require a bit of, shall we say, upheaval.

PTT 18th Nov 2014 16:29


Originally Posted by rgbrock1 (Post 8747763)
sffp:



The next election won't, of course not. However, depending on who gets elected, the aftermath might indeed require a bit of, shall we say, upheaval.

Political power from the barrel of a gun? You'll be showing us your little red book next :E

rgbrock1 18th Nov 2014 16:42

PTT:

Little red book? I would think not. Worked for Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, et al. And they certainly didn't run around with little red books.

http://students.umf.maine.edu/andrew.../minuteman.jpg

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 17:25


Originally Posted by rgbrock1 (Post 8747703)
sffp wrote:

that tipping point will come as well. Probably more likely than the other tipping point.

So what happened to "give them an inch.....etc."?

Seldomfitforpurpose 18th Nov 2014 17:31


Originally Posted by Lord Spandex Masher (Post 8747859)
So what happened to "give them an inch.....etc."?

From what I can gather from other Prune threads Obama has, in the view of many, taken a **** site more than an inch yet unsurprisingly there are no armed hordes heading for the White House to oust such a Tyrant...........

Who'd a thunk that :ok:

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 17:39

I reckon they've all gone soft.

PTT 18th Nov 2014 17:51


Originally Posted by rgbrock1 (Post 8747804)
PTT:

Little red book? I would think not. Worked for Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, et al. And they certainly didn't run around with little red books.

Not exactly honouring the democratic principles they fought for though, is it?

rgbrock1 18th Nov 2014 17:57

Democratic principles? This country was not at all founded on Democratic principles but on Republican principles. Which is why the United States is a Republic. Not a Democracy. (Or was anyway.) A mistake too many people make.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson.

PTT 18th Nov 2014 17:59

Oh, I'm sorry, republican principles. Those principles being the ones which mean that the public votes for their representatives, not shoots the ones that get voted in but they don't like. That's what people like John Wilkes Booth did.

I doubt even Jefferson would refer to Obama as a tyrant despite differing politics.

rgbrock1 18th Nov 2014 18:05

I never wrote anything about shooting the person who got voted in. You did, not me.

Seldomfitforpurpose 18th Nov 2014 18:07


Originally Posted by Lord Spandex Masher (Post 8747872)
I reckon they've all gone soft.


If you take a look at this


Prohibition in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


then maybe that's always been the case, 13 year ban on alcohol, not sure it gets more tyrannical than that but not much reference to a well armed militia ousting the 'Tyranny' ...........

PTT 18th Nov 2014 18:13


Originally Posted by rgbrock1 (Post 8747901)
I never wrote anything about shooting the person who got voted in. You did, not me.

Pray, then, how should we interpret this statement of yours:
depending on who gets elected, the aftermath might indeed require a bit of, shall we say, upheaval.
It looks rather like a total lack of respect for that process which Jefferson et al fought for. Dislike the elected, but respect the wishes of the electorate which elevated them in the same way you would expect them to if your preferred candidate were elected.

brickhistory 18th Nov 2014 18:16

Oh good, Mr. Smiley and his ankle biters, has given his analysis about the American characteristics of firearms philosophy.

Truly, no one cares.

We do tend to care about tyranny, so much so that each succeeding generation does not repeal the Second Amendment. The concept of physical possesion of a firearm is not the crux of the issue, it is the inherent right, simply for existing, to do so that is.

The ankle-biters will be long deceased knowing that, like much of their existence in second-class nations unable to do more than suck on crooked, stained teeth, to do or say anything to influence the big dogs.

Like that great British leader and statesman (great because he was 1/2 American), said (paraphrased), I am quite drunk. But you are quite impotent. And tomorrow I will indisputably be quite sober.

Seldomfitforpurpose 18th Nov 2014 18:20


Originally Posted by brickhistory (Post 8747923)
We do tend to care about tyranny


How did that work with Prohibition................reads like you all bent over and simply took it in the rusty sheriffs badge :p

con-pilot 18th Nov 2014 18:24


How did that work with Prohibition.................
Why don't you tell us, after all, you claim to know more about the United States and our Constitution that we do.


Key work being claim.

Seldomfitforpurpose 18th Nov 2014 18:26

What did I miss Con :p:p:p

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 18:26


We do tend to care about tyranny,
Haven't done a lot to oppose it though. Empty words.

John Hill 18th Nov 2014 18:28

It is the lust to own firearms that drives the jingoism.

Seldomfitforpurpose 18th Nov 2014 18:31


Originally Posted by Lord Spandex Masher (Post 8747943)
Haven't done a lot to oppose it though. Empty words.


13 years of Prohibition and how many of Obama and not a militia formed or a shot fired......................perhaps you are right :p

finfly1 18th Nov 2014 18:32

Nonsense. How many dictators has the USA toppled vs UK?

BTW, "
Banned doesn't mean removed from existence."

Yes it does, here sometimes, as pistols turned in were sent to the crusher.

It worked well for the little gang bangers, as the cops paid them some money for every stolen gun they turned in...sorta keeping the economy going.

PTT 18th Nov 2014 18:33


Originally Posted by finfly1 (Post 8747954)
Nonsense. How many dictators has the USA toppled vs UK?

No idea. We've both certainly installed a few, though.

Dushan 18th Nov 2014 18:33


Originally Posted by John Hill (Post 8747944)
It is the lust to own firearms that drives the jingoism.



For a minute I thought he said "Jong-il-ism".

rgbrock1 18th Nov 2014 18:41

sffp:


not a militia formed
Bwaaaa haaaaa haaaa. I'm laughing so hard right now I might just piss myself. Shows how very little you know.

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 19:40

It's been a bit quiet so I found this for Brick.

British Teeth Aren?t That Bad (American Teeth Are Far Worse) | FiveThirtyEight


There’s a better way to settle this: data on tooth decay (that stuff that you get after plaque builds up and before you enter a world of pain). According to the OECD (so we’re only considering developed countries), 28 percent of adults in England have tooth decay. Compare that to a jaw-dropping 92 percent of adults in America with tooth decay. The British should be smiling. 1-0 U.K.
So, no spine against his tyrannical government and probably should be heading to the fang snatcher as a matter of urgency.

No charge for the service old boy.

brickhistory 18th Nov 2014 19:48

Perhaps no direct charge, but it has to be paid for somehow.

And I still posess firearms and the inherent right that you cannot affect to do so.

Not to mention nice teeth.

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 19:54

I do possess a firearm, so you're wrong about that as well. :D

brickhistory 18th Nov 2014 19:57

But your government gets to fondle both if it decides to.

Thus far, mine doesn't get a say in my armory or my personal dentistry.

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 19:59

Maybe if it did there'd be less than 92% of you with bad teeth. You obviously can't take care of them yourselves.


But your government gets to fondle both if it decides to.
Wrong again, three out of three so far.

con-pilot 18th Nov 2014 20:07


I do possess a firearm
Is it registered with your national government?

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 20:08

Nope...........

con-pilot 18th Nov 2014 20:13

Good.

Okay, is it registered with any segment or agency of your government?

I'm just curious.

Thank you.


Oh, and when you say firearm, we are talking about the traditional definition of a firearm, yes? You know, you pull the trigger, which ignites a powder of sorts, which in turns fires a projectile of sorts down a gun barrel.

brickhistory 18th Nov 2014 20:15

It's ok. His teeth are government registered.

con-pilot 18th Nov 2014 20:23


It's ok. His teeth are government registered.
Now that's funny. :D:D

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 20:33

Con, no it isn't and yes it fires many projectiles.

Brick, of course they're not. They are, however, in a better state than 290,720,000 Americans teeth. The odds are that at least one of the Americans posting on this thread has got pretty shabby gnashers. Is it you?

brickhistory 18th Nov 2014 21:01

Not me, guvnor. My own, fluoridated, brushed (with my own personal) toothbrush with floss on the side.

Now I know it sounds scary because it sounds vaguely French, but Mr. Fluoride is your friend.

And your number is still an estimated 20 million short regarding total firearms.

Like our teeth, that is a magnificent total.

Lord Spandex Masher 18th Nov 2014 21:13

Huh? Nearly two hundred and ninety one million people with tooth decay is magnificent?

BenThere 18th Nov 2014 21:24

Having seen the teeth of Americans and Brits in real life over the decades, I think any study that concludes UK dental health superior to that of the USA is suspect.

Of course, that has little to do with the real merits of our respective societies. Maybe we can talk about those.

As this is a US gun thread, I noted that gun sales in Ferguson, Missouri have broken all records. Why is that?


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