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mrsurrey 9th Feb 2013 21:56

Has anyone arranged large charitable donations for a company?
 
Hello,

I need to source 'worthy causes' and select which one to donate a few 10,000's to. Does anyone have experience of how to (properly) go about it?

I guess it's like putting out a tender?

Cheers,

MrS

Airborne Aircrew 9th Feb 2013 22:17

Advertize in the non-profit community for grant requests. If you have specific requirements such as target populations or demographic then make that clear, research the organizations that might request a grant and talk directly with them. When you read their grant requests you can decide where your money goes....

Milo Minderbinder 9th Feb 2013 22:35

are you looking for suggestions for specific charities?

G-CPTN 9th Feb 2013 22:46

Local deserving cases might have a greater impact than 'the usual' charities, and give greater satisfaction.

mrsurrey 9th Feb 2013 23:01


are you looking for suggestions for specific charities?
No, I need to analyse different charities and decide where the money will do the most good.

I think Airborne Aircrew's idea was good.

Cheers,

MrS

mini 9th Feb 2013 23:37


No, I need to analyse different charities and decide where the money will do the most good.
Deciding on where the money will "do the most good" will depend on your criteria, is it helping the homeless locally, supporting an animal charity or providing funds to feed a famine region? Its very subjective.

What is your priority?

The non profit/charity sector is a minefield if you're not careful... a good tip is to look for an organisation that also receives gov. funding, its usually a sign that they've been sussed out to a certain degree..

If you want to play safe pick an established international operation such as oxfam, unicef, concern worldwide etc.

seacue 10th Feb 2013 00:38

I should hope that the UK has a similar organization.

In the USA, there is a once-a-year campaign seeking donations from Federal employees. This "Combined Federal Campaign" collects money for hundreds of charities. There is a certain amount of vetting.

The reason I'm writing here is that the booklet listing charities has a short writeup about each, but it ALSO LISTS THE PERCENTAGE OF DONATIONS USED FOR FUNDRAISING AND ADMINISTRATION.

Look for a similar combined campaign or an organization which vets the charities in the UK. Even local charities are included from regions with a lot of Federal employees.

I realize that a "good" accountant can disguise administrative and fund-raising costs. I noted that some years ago the American Cancer Society listed a large percentage for "education" ... I'll wager that a lot of that was fundraising mailings.

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Airborne Aircrew 10th Feb 2013 00:48

If a non-profit asks for more than around 7-8% for administration then it's a little questionable.

I've been an administrator in a large non- profit for twenty years... We cut the admin as far as we can and suffer a little from it... But, you get your money's worth from us at those percentages..

bluecode 10th Feb 2013 11:29

Any charities that were supported by the companies I worked for were local or at least national but in a way that the locality benefited too. This helped in two ways. First you knew where the money was going and secondly it enhanced the company's profile locally. Another point is that both the local community and the employees can see where the money is going.

Money given to the big international charities, deserving though they may or may not be often get lost in all the noise.

Of course I must admit bias, much preferring local charities to international which all too often seem a money pit with little benefit overall.

kms901 10th Feb 2013 11:34

Stay local if you can, and make sure that the money is used for a particular project or purchase, rather than wages and admin costs.

BrookwoodPtnrs 16th Feb 2013 10:26

My advice would be to really do your research and identify a charity that you can form a 'relationship' with and that has a relevance to your organisation. We work in the education sector, so the charities we support is relevant to that.

Once you've identified a 'cause' to support, look to meet with the people from some of the charities that work in that field and get to know them. You'll know which one or ones to support having met them.

With any donation you want to be able to 'see' where your money is going and the tangible difference your donation can make. The company I work for has a long history of supporting a number of charities but choosing which charities to support is always difficult....there are so many and so many worthy of our support.

For us, it was important to ensure we could see where our donations were spent and show employees what their fundraising had enabled. Having done our research and identified which charities to support, we have donated around 100k over the last few years. Happy to talk further if it helps or we also have info on our website about our charity work too which may give you some ideas - The Brookwood Partnership Limited | What's New or Independent Schools' Contract Caterer - Brookwood Partnership

Keef 16th Feb 2013 13:00

Some good advice there.

One check you can make (we do!) is to look at the charity's accounts on the Charity Commission website. Some that we thought about hadn't filed their accounts for years (the CC doesn't follow up, although the law says charities must file annually). Some spent over 50% of the money on what I'd classify as "administration" (you do need to be able to "read" accounts to spot this). Some sat on the money for years before doing anything with it.

Some spent the money on clearly-defined projects, with details in the accounts - and photographs etc.

With "local" charities, it's easy to follow up and see the work being done. With large/international ones, their websites often show projects and how much was spend on them.

mixture 16th Feb 2013 15:02


I need to source 'worthy causes' and select which one to donate a few 10,000's to. Does anyone have experience of how to (properly) go about it?
One simple starting point, rule out all the well known brand charities. Sure you might feel "safer" giving to a known brand, but also your money is much more prone to wastage on all sorts of frivolities, such as paying their senior staff excessive amounts of money and plush offices in prime city centre locations.

Its not difficult, draw up a shortlist of smaller charities, look at their accounts ... if good, pay them a visit .... if still happy, write them a cheque.

Forget the idea of "tendering", you'll soon be inundated with begging letters and visiting chuggers from the big boys. Real charities won't have any spare resource to devote time to reply to a bureaucratic tendering process....

Natstrackalpha 15th Mar 2013 18:38

:ugh::mad:====================:hmm:

I love charities,they are almost like governments, except governments try sometimes. I spent a day once searching for plasma for Haiti - reached a fantastic company who supplies us.
They were most kind with their pledge. I went to Children in Need who were gulling on about a massive plasma shortage and said hey, guys, guess what I found . .etc., etc - in the expectation that they would both talk to each other and the plasma would be on its way.
I explained the above quality control factor . . .CinN weren`t interested. Last time I sweat for a day trying to help a charity ORGANISATION.
You wanna help? Then go down and give a hand, rather than send your wonga to an office full of birds, with coffee and bus fares to find or to a group of warlords somewhere over `there` wherever `there` is in fashion at the time.
Rice from the USA. Sent with the kindness of their hearts. Ends up in a warehouse, where some shmuck with his hand in his pocket re-sells the lot.
By tracing and tracking shipments - little, but very little hits the target audience. Sadly.
Not only but also - there are fantastic careers to be had forming charity ORGANISATIONS and they proved a good living to a shameful (sick) few.
Because, people give their wonga, with their hearts - and then turn their back to get on with life and earn a bit more to give to the next charity - they do not follow their wonga or contribution to its supposed target.

Hopefully, they are not so culpably neglectful in my local supermarket, where they have a little shopping trolley at the exit, for people to place an item or two so as some lonely soldier/airman/woman, out there somwhere, will not feel entirely isolated and forgotten.

Capetonian 15th Mar 2013 18:42

Try to cut out the middlemen (i.e. the large charities) and go for direct action where the funds are required. My suggestions would be local old age homes, children's hospitals, facilities for the underprivileged, almost anywhere that you could have personal contact and follow up.

Natstrackalpha 15th Mar 2013 19:06


Try to cut out the middlemen (i.e. the large charities) and go for direct action where the funds are required. My suggestions would be local old age homes, children's hospitals, facilities for the underprivileged, almost anywhere that you could have personal contact and follow up.
Right on! Exactly!!! Well said Cape.

Solid Rust Twotter 16th Mar 2013 05:35

During the Moz floods a few years ago, I saw officials rerouting large parts of shipments of aid offloaded onto their own trucks. The food and materiel later turned up in markets all over the area. No surprises there. They also tried to gouge extortionate fees from volunteer aircraft who flew in from SA to assist with airlifting supplies to stricken areas.

The most recent floods hardly raised an eyebrow among those owners/pilots who were shafted in previous years. Most just flat out couldn't be bothered getting gouged when they're trying to assist.


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