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Buster Hyman 2nd Aug 2012 13:45

Andu. Some posters on here, that are in denial, are ready to run to the hills and mount a guerilla war against those that can see right through their vacuous responses.

prospector 3rd Aug 2012 01:13


THE former union official and alleged bagman for a financial scandal linked to the then boyfriend of Julia Gillard wants to give evidence for the first time to police and prosecutors about his role and the conduct of others.
Getting interesting.

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parabellum 3rd Aug 2012 01:13

Well said Buster:ok:

MattGray 3rd Aug 2012 02:31


United Nations — Kofi Annan announced Thursday that he will step down as the U.N.-Arab League special envoy on Syria at the end of the month, citing “name-calling” and “finger-pointing”


Must be contagious as both “name-calling” and “finger-pointing” along with direct and indirect snide personal attacks have become quite the fashion around here lately.

MattGray 3rd Aug 2012 03:06

Meet Charlie Lynn.
Charlie is a former army major with 21 years service. During his army career he served in Vietnam, Singapore/Malaysia with the ANZUK force and as exchange officer with the United States Army.

A good bloke who does a lot of charity work and has done the Kokoda Track over 60 times.

Always puzzled me what a decent fellow like him was doing mixed up with the Liberals.

But the stench eventually became too much for a man of principle like Charlie -

Lynn told me he would write his resignation letter at a point on the Kokoda Trail where 68 Aussies died fighting for what they believed in. Imre Salusinszky ‏@Imresal

AFAIK Charlie is still in PNG but no surprise that his Liberal "mates" are already planning to tip a bucket of muck over him. :yuk:


Liberals vow to sink the slipper in if MP Charlie Lynn resigns

THE knives are already out for Liberal MP Charlie Lynn, with colleagues labelling him "the Peter Slipper of the NSW parliament" and threatening to unleash a dirt file if he follows through with a vow to quit the party and join the crossbenches.

Mr Lynn, who is in Papua New Guinea where he runs tours of the Kokoda Track, has said he will be handing in his Liberal Party membership as soon as he returns to Australia and sit with the Greens, Shooters and Fishers and Christian Democrats in the NSW Upper House.

The Vietnam veteran, a member of the Legislative Council for 17 years, is resigning over a decision by the NSW Liberal Party to endorse a number of property developers as candidates to run for Fairfield council in September. Source The Hun
Liberals!:ugh:

CoodaShooda 3rd Aug 2012 03:34

Yes Matt

Politics is indeed a dirty business, regardless of which party you are observing.

But the Liberals crass behaviour does not provide an exoneration for labor.

As for name calling and finger pointing, I refer you to the videos of Federal Parliament Question Times since the 2007 election and, in particular, draw your attention to the "avoid the question but vilify the questioner" strategy adopted by those on the Treasury Benches.

Their behaviour also does not exonerate the Libs but does bring to mind the exhortation regarding stones and glass houses.

MattGray 3rd Aug 2012 03:41


But the Liberals crass behaviour does not provide an exoneration for labor.
And what pray tell Cooda mate does that have to do with me????:confused::confused::confused:

500N 3rd Aug 2012 03:44

"and sit with the Greens, Shooters and Fishers and Christian Democrats in the NSW Upper House."


I somehow can't see him supporting the Greens, more likely the CD's
based on the person who inspires him (Lt Col Honner).

Having him support the Shooters and Fishers wouldn't be a
bad thing as it would give them more numbers to screw the Gov't.

allan907 3rd Aug 2012 03:48

A master class in finger pointing, accusations and dishing the dirt:


500N 3rd Aug 2012 03:49

If Rudd hadn't have been such a pig headed individual who wanted to control
everything when it didn't need to be controlled that tightly, he might have taken the Labor party to great things.

And before I get blown out of the water, I am not a rampant one eyed
Labor supporter

We seriously need some good, solid leadership in this country at the Federal level.


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MattGray 3rd Aug 2012 04:08

More cracks in the Liberal ranks after Abbott desperately tries to repair what he wreaked last week in the China Shop.


Peter Reith says the Coalition's foreign investment plan is 'crazy, stupid politics'


BY: BEN PACKHAM AND LANAI VASEK From: The Australian August 03, 2012 12:26PM

FORMER Howard government minister Peter Reith has condemned a Coalition plan to increase scrutiny of foreign investment in agricultural land and enterprises as against the national interest.

The plan, ........ has also been attacked by Labor
Anyone want to run a book on how many days Abbott has left as Liberal leader?

500N 3rd Aug 2012 04:23

Crazy stupid politics ? Really


I think you'll find a fair few voters would say otherwise.

Selling them resources is one thing but selling them the farm
is a completely different kettle of fish IMHO.

Food to China (and other countries) could be one of the biggest exports
if we put out mind to it.

The Chinese have been buying up farms by stealth in Victoria and NSW
(not sure of other areas) and it needs to be kept in check.



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prospector 3rd Aug 2012 04:36


The Chinese have been buying up farms by stealth in Victoria and NSW
(not sure of other areas) and it needs to be kept in check.
The same thing is happening on this side of the Tasman, and quite often quite openly as well as by stealth Seems an exceedingly short sighted policy to sell them the land rather than what our own people can produce off the land and sell to them.

500N 3rd Aug 2012 04:45

Prospector
Yes, I had read that. Short sighted is an under statement !


We'll both be castigated on here now for saying these thing !!!:O

MattGray 3rd Aug 2012 04:57


Prospector
Yes, I had read that. Short sighted is an under statement !


We'll both be castigated on here now for saying these thing !!!
Make that three of us.:ok:

Everybody seems to have conveniently forgotten that it was none other than the oft reviled Bob Brown of the Greens who first broke the issue.

But my point was more about the growing disunity in Liberal/Coalition ranks.

500N 3rd Aug 2012 05:24

"But my point was more about the growing disunity in Liberal/Coalition ranks."


Matt

Yes sorry, I wasn't clear in my post, I was having a go / disagreeing
with Peter Reith.

All good:ok:

eagle 86 3rd Aug 2012 05:38

Cracks in Liberals equals chasms in labor.
GAGS
E86

MattGray 3rd Aug 2012 05:58

If ever there was any doubt about the Liberals absolute financial ineptitude, try to get your head around this little gem from the bumbling Qld Public Works Minister.



Dr Flegg announced on Tuesday that the government would sell three caravan parks which permanently house 220 families.

He said the parks were part of the Public Works portfolio, and the undisclosed profits would be directed to reducing the public housing waiting list.

Currently 30,000 Queenslanders are waiting for public housing, and 10,000 are considered homeless.

Dr Flegg said the previous government had sold off more than $60 million worth of public housing and his government was not doing anything new.

"It is a rework of the portfolio of public housing, as has been an ongoing feature for many, many years," he told reporters in Brisbane.

"If you want to see it as an asset sale, then I can understand that."

"(But) these aren't really an asset; they're losing money. They're more of a liability."

The mind boggles. Not only that he said it but that The Hun published it.


Never mind as well, the breathtaking hypocrisy of Can-do Campbell and his Treasurer Tim Nicholls who solemnly promised to be different to Bligh and not to sell assets in their first term and to take any proposals to an election to secure a mandate from voters.

Broken election promises from a Liberal leader? :confused:

<crickets>

500N 3rd Aug 2012 06:02

eagle86

I do agree to an extent but that is partly due to Labor being a bigger target
where more chasms can occur.

Not saying the Libs are the bees knees but with a few exceptions,
they haven't that much on the table for them to get themselves in
a knot over and cause a break up.

Buster Hyman 3rd Aug 2012 06:32

I think they're a bigger target because they've gone against their core values & forgotten their beginnings. Aligning with the Greens has compromised their standing and whilst true labor voters will not abandon them, no matter how bad they smell, they've probably lost the swinging voters.

As for the farms, well that's a typically Australian problem. We have no self belief. (Perhaps that's just limited to Canberra?) How often have you seen Aussies go offshore because they can't get the support they need here to market an idea? It's the same with the food bowl idea. "Too hard", "Can't be done", whatever the excuse, there's a wealth of land here that could be opened up to agriculture, that only lacks a willingness to try. If we built desal plants in arid areas & popped a Nuclear generator next to it, it'd work. Unfortunately, there are elements around that have probably feinted reading that & will be up in arms over the risks to the Well Hung Green Spotted Tree Frog!


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