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EffohX 26th Jul 2012 13:15

Things are going swimmingly for Australia under Ms Gillard's guiding hand - 800+ jobs to be lost in 2014 as the Caltex Kurnell refinerly will shut down, and in Victoria, LTQ (co-owned by Qantas and Lufthansa) closes a jet maintenance facility. Another 164 jobs gone.

Surely there are serious Defence and national security implications involved in these closures? Or are our "leaders" (!) content to have us be a mine and a tourist destination to the world and nothing else?

And yet another boat carrying 54 "new Australians" 'meeted and greeted' off the Western Australian coast today. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to hear the opinions of the crews on those RAN patrol boats about the policies they are instructed to carry out.

AND - (you couldn't make this up) - Julia Gillard announces that Australia is giving half a million dollars to maintain the concentration camp at Auschwiz.

parabellum 26th Jul 2012 14:19


AND - (you couldn't make this up) - Julia Gillard announces that Australia is giving half a million dollars to maintain the concentration camp at Auschwiz.
Do we know yet who she plans to send there? The Greens perhaps?;)

MattGray 26th Jul 2012 15:38


You are right the perspective hits you right between the eyes, and instantly you think, what are my problems??? Am I not indeed blessed not to have the problems of others!
Amen to that Fliegs!

Unfortunately nothing speaks louder to the lack of any such empathy, compassion and perspective in the wider Australian community than the deplorable events of the past 24 hours where we saw the bloody minded Liberals choose to play political footy with the disabled, the handicapped and their 24/7 carers.

To our national shame Australia ranks last among all OECD countries when it comes to disability support ie Australia is 27th of 27 nations.

Yet when Prime Minister Gillard put $1 Billion on the table at COAG to fund the roll out of the National Disability Insurance Scheme the Liberal State Premiers alone turned their back on our 360,000 fellow citizens with a profound or severe disability.

Ted Baillieu can't find $10 million for disabled Victorians. But $59 million for his good Liberal mate Ron Walker's F1 bread and circuses. No problem!

Liberals? Perspective? :yuk:

Campbell Newman can find money in his claimed Spanish like empty treasury for High Court mining tax challenges for his billionaire mate and sponsor Clive Palmer, but none for handicapped Queenslanders under the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

Liberals? Priorities? Perspective? :yuk:

Barry O'Farrell - $300 million cut for the big clubs on their poker machines taxes. No problem. The disabled? Go jump.

Liberals? Common sense? Compassion? Perspective? :yuk:

But let's not discuss the elephant in the room when we can obsess over Ahmed, his leaky boat and a handful of asylum seekers.

Liberals? Perspective? :yuk::yuk:

The deliberate sabotage of the NDIS by thepoker bloody minded Federal :mad: Noalition and its client States will not soon be forgotten by the impaired, the disabled, the handicapped, their carers and any fair minded Australians.

MattGray 26th Jul 2012 16:22

Further..............
Queensland Government scraps $6.50 wheelchair passenger bonus for taxi drivers




THE Newman Government has dealt another blow to Queenslanders with disabilities, axing a taxi subsidy scheme before it even began.

The former Labor government had promised to compensate cabbies $6.50 for every trip taken by a person in a wheelchair, helping to compensate drivers for revenue lost due to the extra time it takes to pick up disabled customers.
It was hoped the scheme would lead to better customer service for passengers with disabilities and eliminate "recalcitrant operators" who were reluctant to respond to wheelchair jobs because of the extra effort and time involved.
The scheme was due to start on July 1 but Transport Minister Scott Emerson last night told the Taxi Council of Queensland the subsidy would be axed altogether.

RJM 26th Jul 2012 17:17

Putting aside this particular case, Iit seems to me thatr there is a growing tendency to look to the government fior cash assistance at every turn. This tendency is fuelled by the growing habit of governments of both parties to hand out sweeteners on a grand scale, not always in response to a genuine need but in fact as bribes.

Having got that off my chest, here's one of the hardest hitting Pickering cartoons I've seen. This and others didn't make it into the maistrewam press - they're available on Pickering's blog.


allan907 26th Jul 2012 17:43

Righto. You're a prime minister that is despised and reviled throughout the country; your own team aren't really sure of you and they are threatening to do the same to you as you did to your predecessor. It really isn't looking too flash for you at the moment, particularly as you have staked everything on your popularity returning after the introduction of some really disastrous policy on the back of a lie to the people and your crystal ball gazing has been a tad adrift and your popularity is actually going backwards. What do you do?

You propose a piece of really touchy feely policy which is guaranteed to make everyone weak at the knees and you bring in the State Premiers who you know despise you even more than your own colleagues and you pitch the proposal at them while deliberately underfunding your policy. You know that the way that you pitch the proposal will be totally unacceptable to them which will guarantee a refusal to play your particular game; you tee up your "friendly" States to sign up and then you blame the other States for not coming to the party. You hope that the majority of the people can't see through your ploy and you will be seen as the caring soul you would like to be seen as while castigating the hard hearted opponents.

It is all in hope of giving you a 1% rise in popularity which will last until the next poll. In any event, it protects your salary for another couple of weeks at least.

Unfortunately the people no longer believe in you, your policies or your team.

tick, tick, tick, tick......

RJM 26th Jul 2012 17:56

Agreed, allan907. What's more, it shows Julia's contempt for the average punter.

As The Lady In The Shopping Mall said, "We're not stupid, you know."

On the Qld disabled taxi credit. Does winning the election mean that Campbell Newman has to deliver every promise made by the desperate-to-be-relected, but thrown out, Bligh government?

Andu 26th Jul 2012 23:01


Unfortunately nothing speaks louder to the lack of any such empathy, compassion and perspective in the wider Australian community than the deplorable events of the past 24 hours where we saw the bloody minded Liberals choose to play political footy with the disabled, the handicapped and their 24/7 carers.
Matt, Matt, Matt... You bring a whole new dimension to the word "spin". Tony BLIAR would give you a job with the positive pro-Julya spin you've managed to manufacture from her latest dip into the cynical pond. 60% - SIXTY **** PERCENT!! - of the budget of Julya's version of the NDIS going into administration costs?

C'mon, Matt, even a true believer like yourself should choke on that. It's straight out of "Yes Minister" and the "most efficient hospital in Britain" episode - you know, Matt, the one that had the "most efficient" hospital that had 500 administrators but no patients.

The way Gillard set this up to fail plumbs a new depth in political cynicism. It is she who squandered the chance of a NDIS, not the non Labor State Premiers.

One Tamil deported and the refugee advocacy groups are carrying on like it's seventy years ago we've just sent a trainload of people of a certain non-Christian faith to... dare I use the name of the place we've just bankrolled?

As for parabellum's comment:

Do we know yet who she plans to send there? The Greens perhaps?
With the Greens' policy of a maximum sustainable population for Australia of 7 million (and with their "SHYs" 'open door to all' immigration policy), you'd have to seriously ask yourself whether parabellum hasn't got that the wrong way around.

CoodaShooda 27th Jul 2012 02:13

Fleigs

Thanks for the reality check and my heartfelt sympathy to your friends.

No parent should have to bury their child, yet life is so fragile and so precious.

While we occasionally beg to differ on this thread, I hope we will still see you continue to contribute.

Gems like "you rabble of rambling idealogues" are, by themselves, worthy of the admission price.

eagle 86 27th Jul 2012 04:52

Matt,
You let your argument down by the obvious lack of research into the subjects that you espouse upon. The lobster's intent was to have the ndis put in place within a couple of months of the next fedelec and as stated above most of the money was going into - you guessed it - administration - yet again.
GAGS
E86

allan907 27th Jul 2012 08:50


Unfortunately nothing speaks louder to the lack of any such empathy, compassion and perspective in the wider Australian community than the deplorable events of the past 24 hours where we saw the bloody minded Liberals choose to play political footy with the disabled, the handicapped and their 24/7 carers.
Hate to rain on your little party but it seems that the States were very keen on getting the NDIS in place quick smart and they even suggested a national medicare-type levy to fund it thereby putting Abbott in a position he couldn't refuse but, as usual, it seems that Jooliar was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by steadfastly sticking to her plan of part funding from Canberra and the States stumping up the cash in an open-ended commitment.

So where's the "deliberate sabotage" now?

Never let the facts get in the way of good anti-Liberal rant.

bob johns 27th Jul 2012 15:22

bob johns
 
Ah well here we go again with another bloody sports carnival that is going to dump another country into deeper financial shit than it is already just like us in 2000 . Someone must be making a quid out of it , certainly not the ,poor ******* tax payers of the host nation, Why the hell do we put up with this ,bread and circuses verbal masterbation and bullshit from the government and media? For Christs sake what use to the world is some bloke that can swim faster backwards than another ,or one mob of lesbians throw a ball over a net on a beach than another ? Am I cynical ? Bloody oath I am -- no one country that has hosted an Olympic games since Montreal has !had a look in .Ar there probably would have been a few left over pollies that might have prospered !

SOPS 27th Jul 2012 16:34

Well here is one for you Ladies and Gentlemen. I am on a Jakarta overnight. And the headlines on the front page of the Jarkata Post reads today " China Jakarta begin missiles talks"

To summarrise a long article, Indonesia has allocated 15.8 billion (yes billion) US dollars on a moderenised weapons defense system between now and 2014. This is for an anti ship missile weapon system, first made in China, but later made at home in Indonseia. It is called the C705 anti ship missile.

So while Juila has lowered our own defense spending back to levels not seen in Australia since before Federation, or perhaps before 600AD (as many of our new guests would like it, that is the century they wish us all to live in) our nearest neighbour, which we supply ample aid to, is spending 15 billion dollars on a system that will allow them to "blast" the leaky boats through, should HMAS Rescue try to stop them.:mad::mad::mad::mad::ugh::ugh::ugh:

Andu 27th Jul 2012 23:56

...and oh, how Joolia and Wayne have been waiting for the Olympics to start... With the meedjia and the sports-obsessed Oz maninthestreet totally distracted by the "bread and circuses" in London, for the next 17 days, Jools, Chris Bowen and the World's Best Treasurer are free and clear to do as they please.

QE2 could pull up at Flying Fish Cove laden with standing room only "irregular arrivals" and it will hardly rate a mention behind the well known Australian athlete Mary-Lou Whoeversheis' suspected strained left ligament tendon - on the ABC and Fairfax at least.

MattGray 28th Jul 2012 03:31

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...3gf0o1_500.jpg


:D............:ok:...........:D

Liberals............:yuk:

Buster Hyman 28th Jul 2012 04:06

You should be embarrassed by that post. := However, you once again illustrate to the rest of us how irrelevant your argument has become.

bob johns 28th Jul 2012 04:51

bob johns
 
Good call Buster most canucks I have met seemed pretty smart.

MattGray 28th Jul 2012 05:33

As Barrie Cassidy observed "the failure of the richest states to cough up a relative pittance towards the NDIS trials appears to be the dumbest - and meanest - act by leading politicians in a very long time.

What on earth drove the premiers to think they could go down this path and emerge unscathed politically? "



Even the High Priest of pro Liberal commentary, John Laws said something similar.And the angry public were right onto them as talkback and media commentary demonstrated.

That was about the time the Liberal Captain sniffed the political breeze and deserted the ship leaving his State Premiers to weather the growing storm.

And all the true blue believers, totally out of touch with community attitudes, can do is sneer at the NDIS "as a piece of really touchy feely policy which is guaranteed to make everyone weak at the knees".

And then have the rolled gold chutzpah to cover their shame by crying "Troll".

:mad:

parabellum 28th Jul 2012 05:47

Bob Johns - He isn't a Canadian, you are right, they are a pretty smart lot generally speaking but he would love to get this thread closed. Provided we don't feed the troll there is a good chance he will get himself banned, his posts are intended to be offensive in the hope that someone will bite. Funny thing is he hasn't even read today's papers, otherwise he would know that his last two posts are well out of date.:rolleyes:

allan907 28th Jul 2012 08:14

The Weekend Australian is chokker today with articles telling how Labor is doomed. And that's from all sides of the political spectrum. Even Latham is saying that Gillard must go and he proposes Swanny take over. Say what you like about Latham - he's still got a sense of humour.

There's also a "pissing in the wind" article by Emerson. I can't say that the lyrics scan and I'm damned if I can pick the tune this time. :}

Fishing's a bit poor today - there's nothing biting. :eek:


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