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Saltie 7th Sep 2014 00:01

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
I thought that the English father had lived for quite a while in Australia before returning to the UK to work or study. Can someone other than Ethel put me straight on that point?

Captain Sand Dune 7th Sep 2014 00:44

From Wikipedia:

Abbott was born in London, England, on 4 November 1957, to an Australian mother, Fay Abbott (née Peters), who was born in Sydney, and an English father, Richard Henry "Dick" Abbott, born in Newcastle upon Tyne and raised in a nearby village. At sixteen, Richard emigrated to Australia with his English parents in 1940, during World War II. The first of Abbott's ancestors to arrive in Australia was his maternal great-grandmother, Willemina Bredschneijder, who emigrated to Australia from the Netherlands in 1912 with her five-year old son, Anthony Peters (Abbott's future grandfather). His maternal grandmother, Phyllis Lacey, was born in Wales.
After the war, Dick Abbott returned to the UK where he subsequently met and married Fay Peters, an Australian dietitian. On 7 September 1960, Abbott and his family left the UK for Australia on the Assisted Passage Migration Scheme ship Oronsay. His family first lived in Bronte and later moved to Chatswood, both suburbs of Sydney, New South Wales. Dick Abbott established what was to become one of the largest orthodontics practices in Australia, retiring in 2002.

Ethel the Aardvark 7th Sep 2014 00:58

Don't worry, Teflon Tony will just sign the form and all will be forgiven, a bit like all his expenses that he had to repay,

Dark Knight 7th Sep 2014 01:52

Boring, bloody boring!

All that effort for nil result; definitely slow learners.

Guess this must have been learnt from Kevin & Julia plus the incompetent, inept Labor, Green team

Clare Prop 7th Sep 2014 03:04

Teflon Tony was the nickname given to that peice of **** that Gillard saw as a hero, to the point she employed his spin doctor McTernan...the cheshire cat, Tony Blair.

So, wrong nickname wrong person Ethel.

Saltie 7th Sep 2014 03:19

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
It doesn't 't have to accurate or even make any sense, CP. Ethel just has to be able to tell her boss in Sussex St that she's posted 'n' number of posts on anti Labor sites to earn her pay. She doesn't even have to believe any of it herself. She just has to keep plugging away, because they know that the Big Lie has been proven to work from the days of Dr Goebbels if you tell it often enough. It works for the ABC.

Ethel the Aardvark 7th Sep 2014 03:34

So you happy folk are telling me that Teflon did not claim thousands of dollars of expenses incorrectly and then pay them back a bit arf quickly. As Tony would say, cor blimey, knock it on yer ead.

Dark Knight 7th Sep 2014 03:47

This has to be a good reason why throwing someone off a balconey at Sussex Street will be considered justifiable homicide!

Surely even they would not put up with such puerile [email protected]!

BenThere 7th Sep 2014 04:46


Just a piece of advice. You don't want to bring up the rorting of expenses in defense of Labor. You'll only be embarrassed.

bosnich71 7th Sep 2014 05:21

WTF does it matter where anyone in Australia came/comes from aren't we all immigrants .... with apologies to those of full blood Aborigine descent of course.

Ken Borough 7th Sep 2014 05:27

There's something very odd about the Abbott's family migration to Australia. After the war, it's been reported that Dick Abbott studied dentistry at the University of Sydney. After graduation, he did what most dentists did in those days: he went to the UK. While there, it's been reported that he met and married an Australian who gave birth to a son. Now, putting two and two together, does the 'migration' seem unusual?


Captain Sand Dune 7th Sep 2014 05:39

You and Ethel keep digging away there..............
Now I know that Dick Smith gets pilloried on this website for his views on aviation, however have a Captain Cook at this (my bolding):

You may be aware that Dick Smith chain franchise stores are being pressured by the Islamic Council of Australia to gain 'Halal Certification' otherwise they will be proscribed and banned from Muslim custom. This is their response:
"We at Dick Smith's have received a number of letters from people asking if we will be putting the Muslim Halal logo on our food.
To acquire Halal certification, payment is required to the endorsing body (the Islamic Council) and involves a number of site inspections of both our growers and processors in order to ensure that our practices comply with the conditions of Halal certification.
It is important to note that this does not reflect the quality of the food being processed or sold – it only means that the products are approved as being prepared in accordance with the traditions of the Muslim faith.
We are aware of an increasing number of large companies both in Australia and overseas, such as Kraft and Cadbury, who have obtained accreditation to use the Halal logo. We don’t believe they have done this because of any religious commitment but rather for purely commercial reasons. Perhaps these large organisations can afford to do this.
While we have a choice however, we would prefer to avoid unnecessarily increasing the cost of our products in order to pay for Halal accreditation when this money would be better spent continuing to support important charitable causes where assistance is greatly needed.
We point out that we have never been asked to put a Christian symbol
(or any other religious symbol) on our food requiring that we send money to a Christian organisation for the right to do so.

Others would add that money paid to ANY Muslim 'organisation' (and you had better believe it: these people ARE 'organised') can easily find its way into the hands of Islamic extremist-fanatics and murderers, irrespective of assurances to the contrary. What other assurances do we accept from Muslims? Oh, that's right, 'Islam is a religion of PEACE'!
How less Australian can companies get, than to place money into the hands of those who seek to exploit us?"
This is an example of how the leaders of Muslims in Aus/NZ are bullying large commercial organisations (especially in the food industry) into paying what is no more than blatant extortion money. The amazing part is that these weak-kneed organisations (Cadbury/ Schweppes/ Nestles/ Krafts etc.) actually pay the large sums demanded by these self-appointed religious bureaucrats. Of course, the manufacturers promptly pass this levy on to unwitting consumers as cost increases. Next time you buy a block of Cadbury's chocolate, look for the Halal Certification seal on the wrapper. So, regardless of your own religious faith, you end up subsidizing Islam.
The Council also controls the Muslim voter bloc which, as yet, does not have sufficient critical mass to make a difference - but give them time.
Several state jurisdictions are under pressure to adopt or permit Sharia Law in Marriage, Family and Property matters and some, under the delusion that they are being progressively liberal, are permitting this. This has already happened in some local authorities in the U.K.
Google the U.K. Education Department's current investigation into the conduct of Muslim-run schools in the Birmingham area of England.
How many more warnings do people need?
Not sure about the assertion that some state governments are under pressure to adopt Sharia Law. Nevertheless hats off to Dick Smith for having the cajones to say what many Australians are thinking.

SOPS 7th Sep 2014 07:19

If Dick really wrote that, a big well done, Dick.:ok::ok:

owen meaney 7th Sep 2014 08:01

All "races" could be called immigrants to Australia, including Australian Aborigines.

The fact that Mr Abbott and Ms Gillard are expat POMs, is amusing on several levels.
The jarring irony of a modern Australia importing primeministers surely must appeal to your sense of humour


Link for Dick Smith Halal statement

bosnich71 7th Sep 2014 09:53

Ken .... your link to "Nth.Coast Voices" doesn't work....... a bit like some of your arguments.

Ken Borough 7th Sep 2014 10:41


Nothin' wrong wiff my arguments. It's just that you don't agree wiff them, as is your right.:ok:

The link won't paste correctly but here's the gist to get you on your way. Happy exploring and reading.

[email protected]********.com.au/201...decided-to.htm

Sorry. Still having an issue but search the blog 'North Coast Voices'

Pinky the pilot 7th Sep 2014 11:13

Nothin' wrong wiff my arguments.
That, of course may be a matter of opinion, Ken.:D

It's just that you don't agree wiff them, as is your right
Quite correct.:ok: Unfortunately it seems that some of those who appear to be of the left would not, and do not agree with you on that regard.:hmm:

rh200 7th Sep 2014 11:20

Maybe abit more public awarness of what these companies like cadburys etc are using the Halal certification. I feel there is a right to know, and if people due to boycott them so be it.

bosnich71 7th Sep 2014 12:51

Ken ..... no worries, each to his own as they say.
My bit about your arguments was more about you not winning many on here. I do agree with some .... not many I'll admit.

bosnich71 7th Sep 2014 13:07

Rh200 .... Cadbury's was originally started by a family of Quakers who believed that their workers deserved a better life style than had previously been enjoyed by workers in Britain at the time. Working conditions and the "model village" at Bourneville in Birmingham being just two examples of the family's concerns for others.
I think that they would be somewhat upset by their original product being used to garner funds for a bunch of Neanderthal, ( oops there's that word again), criminals.
However I stopped buying their products when the company was bought out by the present American owners. This decision was made not because of any halal nonsense but because the new owners lied through their teeth about what effect their take over would have on the Cadbury work force. They said none but as soon as they took over there were mass redundancies and factory closures.
Their adverts, here in Oz at least, bear more resemblance to Willy Wonka than anything even remotely like the Cadburys of old .... and the chocolate tastes like s***t as well.

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