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rh200 26th Jul 2014 23:57


I can't see our force of parking ticket jockeys with side arms doing anything other than getting shot.
Its interesting to see how long the spirit of cooperation lasted across political lines.

The fact is there is a lot more going on behind the lines in regards to force make up. Tony will have stuff all to do with it apart from sign off on what the various advisors decide.

Any operation on the ground will be controlled by the Dutch. The fact is Tony will probally be getting advice from the Federals polic, the ADF and I would bet the GG is having an input. They will then sign off on what ever political compromises needed in regards to what the Dutch will want.

This is the difference between this government and the previous, Tony is generally inclusive, whist Rudd a dictator.

Clare Prop 27th Jul 2014 00:45

Here you are WITW. Articles: Weekend Must-Read: Ten Reasons Why I Am No Longer a Leftist

parabellum 27th Jul 2014 00:58


As opposed to righties, who are being turned away at the door of the Red Cross? Or do they just freely admit to not caring about those in real hardship?

I am involved in three volunteer organisations, all with the intent of helping the needy. Possibly not 100% but certainly well over 90% are 'righties', hardly an outraged 'lefty' in sight. (I haven't met any but I concede there are possibly a few).

Clare Prop 27th Jul 2014 00:58

Chuboy I don't want to blow my trumpet about what volunteering I do but it varies from pushing wheelchairs in Lourdes to fostering rescue dogs. I have found most people who do volunteering are from the demographic that you would probably call "righties" with some from very humble backgrounds as well, in fact as a child I was very lucky to meet Mother Teresa which had a profound affect on me.

The difference? People who volunteer do what they can and are realistic about the limits of compassion.

Very few philanthropists or people who are very effective at fund raising brag about it but obvious examples are Bill Gates, Prince Charles.

Our PM of course also does a lot of voluntary work, which the left mock him for, ie the endless references to budgie smugglers which AFAIK are worn by all surf lifesavers.

Many lefties live in a world of impractical ideology as long as someone else does the hard yards.

Monty Python summed it up beautifully with The Peoples Front of Judea in Life of Brian...


Ethel the Aardvark 27th Jul 2014 03:08

So now the righties are more caring than the lefties.
It's a shame that it's not extended to women and children asylum seekers and people of none WASP appearance!
Don't want any of those country shoppers getting a leg up do we.

Dark Knight 27th Jul 2014 03:13

Ethel: you do mean Economic Migrants?

7x7 27th Jul 2014 03:17

Hey Ethel, have you read the whole article?

I'd be interested in reading your critique of it - after you've read the whole article. (I'm sure you'll find much to criticise and totally disagree with, and not for one moment do I believe it will change your outlook one iota - because Lefties are... always right. Right?)

7x7 27th Jul 2014 03:21

Ethel, I see there are 772 comments following that article. Why don't you make it 773? (But please, post a copy of your comment here as well.)

Andu 27th Jul 2014 03:32

Here's a not dissimilar article from a little bit closer to home.

No Cookies | Herald Sun

500N 27th Jul 2014 03:33

Ethel

Which asylum seekers are those.

Haven't seen many, most seem to be welfare chasers.


And, btw, why the need to say "women and children" and wasp ?
What about men or are you sexist, discriminatory and racist ?
How unusual for a lefty to be all 3 when you accuse us of that all the time.

Trying to elicit an emotive response ?


Pinky
I hear comments about sink the boats as well.

Andu 27th Jul 2014 03:48

Interesting, (to me at least), that Jacki Lambie's extraordinarily crass comments are, not a week after she made them, pretty well yesterday's news for the vast majority f the MSM.

But if a male, particularly a conservative male, (and not even an elected politician), had made similar comments, they would still be keeping MH17 off the front pages now and for weeks to come.

Double standards? "Nothing to be seen here; move along."

bosnich71 27th Jul 2014 04:28

A story from Victoria ..........


At 9.30 last Friday night the bodies of a man aged 27 and a woman aged 24 were found dead in their car on a dirt road outside Ballarat. A car which was their home. Police believe that the cause of death was the use of a butane heater which the couple had used in an attempt to keep warm on what was one of the coldest of nights.
They were only two of the thousands of Victorians who sleep on the streets, in motor vehicles, wherever they can, every night of every week. If only some of the interest, concern and pity shown by the M.S.M./the Julian Burnside industry/ S.H.Y./the greens etc. for illegal immigrants into Australia could be harnessed to help these Australian citizens ... who also have "human rights" ..... then the world might be better place.

Dark Knight 27th Jul 2014 04:38

Bos :ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:

500N 27th Jul 2014 04:50

Bosnich

Exactly, well said.


Maybe shy and those others would like to give them a home.

Clare Prop 27th Jul 2014 05:50

It is a common leftist propaganda that anyone who isn't exactly like them is uncaring etc etc wallowing in money that they have stolen from some "poor" person. That may well apply to the scum in Wall Street but not every person who sees socialism for what it is in practical applications is like that. When that sort of accusation comes from someone who has never lifted a finger to help anyone in their selfish lives, or someone who is cheating their way through life on welfare, it just makes me sick.

People who have been brainwashed by Marxist propaganda have no powers of debate, just like people who are brainwashed by other crazy religions and cults. They can only hurl abuse although I will concede that some of the more intelligent ones can actually construct a straw man. "If you could reason with religious people there would be no religious people" can be applied to rabid lefties as well.

I hate Marxism because I grew up in the UK during the cold war and the four minute warning. Berlin Wall too close for comfort. 1984 and Animal Farm were compulsory reading at my school. How many millions of people have been killed in the name of it? How many thousands just by that Fabian scum Tony Blair alone??

BTW hating Marxism does not make me a "rightie" There are things about the right that make me sick and things about the left that I applaud. I hate party politics. But the hypocrisy of the left is what really makes me angry. :mad:

Clare Prop 27th Jul 2014 05:58

BTW Ethel I would prefer that women and children asylum seekers were the only ones allowed in. The ones in the camps who are widowed. If they could come here without their misogynistic and cowardly menfolk they and their children would stand a chance of breaking away from some of the terrible aspects of their culture that are holding them back and have probably caused their hardship in the first place.

Including over population, the great elephant in the room.

Worrals in the wilds 27th Jul 2014 06:43

Cheers for the link, interesting read re academic and/or extreme lefties and their many conflicts with actual worker lefties.
Personally I never have much time for academic lefties (though IME many of them do volunteer with charities, I think she's painting with a very broad brush there), and I have no time for hate-filled ranting extremists from either side. Unfortunately the internet has given far too many ranting keyboard warriors far too much publicity.

About the only thing I really disagree with her on is that she 'couldn't find' any hate filled right wing extremist websites that matched their left wing equivalents. Obviously her Google is broken. :hmm:

bosnich71 27th Jul 2014 07:28

That great champion of the downtrodden, Bob Geldoff is in Melbourne on yet another Jolly. This time he's getting stuck into the Australian government ref. not giving enough to funding Aids research......( not that it needs too much researching I'd suggest. Perhaps a cessation of placing certain appendages where they were not designed to be placed would be a good starting point).... A perfect example of someone who has made a very good living by latching on to just about every "cause" available without actually solving any problem, including his own family's.

Ethel the Aardvark 27th Jul 2014 08:05

Hate filled extremist right wing websites , how about War in Australia ( any Oz politics).
Apart from the obvious ego orientated chest thumping ( myself included) this thread has been nothing but vitriol towards Muslims, Aboriginies, asylum seekers, Aussie lefties, Aussie righties, and on and on, if I remember correctly even overweight girls in country towns were copping some unwanted bad attention once
Usually the majority of crap is repeated from a Smith or Bolt article.
Are we seeing a pattern yet?
I do hope the usual suspects have a sense of humour or I fear their lives must be full of fear and bigotry.

david1300 27th Jul 2014 08:11


Originally Posted by bosnich71 (Post 8581575)
A story from Victoria ..........

At 9.30 last Friday night the bodies of a man aged 27 and a woman aged 24 were found dead in their car on a dirt road outside Ballarat. A car which was their home. Police believe that the cause of death was the use of a butane heater which the couple had used in an attempt to keep warm on what was one of the coldest of nights.
They were only two of the thousands of Victorians who sleep on the streets, in motor vehicles, wherever they can, every night of every week. If only some of the interest, concern and pity shown by the M.S.M./the Julian Burnside industry/ S.H.Y./the greens etc. for illegal immigrants into Australia could be harnessed to help these Australian citizens ... who also have "human rights" ..... then the world might be better place.

Well said :ok::ok:


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