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500N 9th Jul 2014 20:35

Saltie

I missed that sentence of Ethels "Just admit the fact that you do not want anyone here that you consider will be given a free lunch."


Ethel
As Saltie said, why should we accept people that get a free lunch ?
TRUE Asylum Seekers, not a problem :ok:, country shoppers,
not a hope in hell.

Unless of course you want to pay for it, but no, I doubt it,
most lefties are sponges.

parabellum 9th Jul 2014 23:42

Ethel - I think you need to get out more, especially overseas and talk to more people from abroad.



Might even lose are international pariah reputation!
We don't have such a reputation. Europe's and the USA's illegal problem is such that they could not care less about Australia. In the eyes of most foreign countries Australia is a place of constant sunshine , beaches, BBQs, beer, cheap wine, sea food, long holidays and sports. Many countries think we are far too soft on illegals, unlike many left of centre Australians, the majority of foreigners realise that if you can afford the very expensive route to get here by leaky boat and manage to 'lose' your papers on the way, having already passed through two or three safe countries, then you are hiding something and you must be a fraud. The left of centre do have a problem with accepting these facts, but it must be remembered that they spend their life with their heads firmly stuck in the collective arse.

Worrals in the wilds 9th Jul 2014 23:56

That's if they know who/where we are in the first place. Most of the 'international community's' response to a question about Australia would be to say 'where's that' and/or 'who cares'?

500N 9th Jul 2014 23:58

Or "Austria, yes, lovely country" :O


Parabellum

Very well said.

$10,000 for a boat ride is not an Asylum Seeker.

An Asylum Seeker is like the Vietnamese boat people
that came after the war to Aus.

Clare Prop 10th Jul 2014 01:58

Last time I went back to the UK friends and rellies were saying "I wish our government was as tough on illegals as Australia"...and that was during the dying days of the GILLARD government!

The "international pariah" thing is a figment of the "let em all in" brigade's imagination. Most people don't care...they think we all live in Ramsay Street....apart from those who have tried for years to migrate here legally and been turned away. :ugh:

Also in the UK they have moved on from all the handwringing PC bullshit and are able to say what they think without someone calling them a "racist", it's very refreshing.

bosnich71 10th Jul 2014 02:06

Clare Prop .... that's exactly what I get from my relatives and mates in Britain as well, and I'd add before Ethel makes a p***t of himself, that those self same relatives and mates are not all on the right hand side of politics. A vast majority of all in Britain are highly pissed off about the open borders which seem to exist in U.K. which of course were part of the plan by the past labour administration to import votes for themselves. Not that the Tories have done anything to rectify that labour legacy, perhaps when the rioting starts but then again they'll just blame the "racists" won't they?

500N 10th Jul 2014 02:08

"....apart from those who have tried for years to migrate here legally and been turned away. :ugh:"

Like Bosnich's relatives as he stated a few pages back.



have moved on from all the handwringing PC bullshit and are able to say what they think without someone calling them a "racist", it's very refreshing.
I think Australia has also moved on from two years ago where you were called a racist, you don't see it nearly as much now.


The fluffy luvvies have 3 more years of jumping up and down,
ranting and raving !

Clare Prop 10th Jul 2014 02:11

Having said that and a bit off topic, the only thing I have heard is people saying "You Australians are so racist you are still locking the aborigines in cages in the desert and taking away all their babies" (This coming from people who read The Grauniad)

I had a rant like that from the lead singer of a fairly politically Left minded English touring band I was tour managing. I told him best not to say stuff like that on stage or most of the audience will walk out and want refunds. I took him to the venue and introduced him to the head of security and the bar lady who would be looking after the backstage, meals etc. Nice professional people who do a good job and just happen to be very obviously Aboriginal. He treated them like absolute shit. :mad:

He also treated the two black musicians in his band like shit.

Empty vessels make the most noise. That's why I take no notice of the looney left because in practice I have seen they are often far more racist and elitist than most of us who don't even notice what people look like or talk like. Because they are SOOOO morally superior. Just ask them.

rh200 10th Jul 2014 02:51

Comment: Bullied by Clive Palmer, Tony Abbott?s government appears to have lost control of Senate | News.com.au

I see Palmer playing his usual tricks, I think he's trying to bring on a coup in the Liberals and have Turnbull installed. Another words Tony can't deal with the senate trick, evry thing will be all nice if we have a nice guy at the top.

If Tony has any balls he will call an election, If he spins it right he will come out on top, decimating Palmer and Turnbull.

MTOW 10th Jul 2014 03:21

I wonder who'd be first to blink if Tony Abbott threatened Palmer and the new senators with a DD?

bosnich71 10th Jul 2014 03:51

500N ...... "like all those who have tried for years to migrate here legally" etc.
There were a number of my family who attempted the migration route and who were all knocked back despite fulfilling the necessary criteria with regard to age, qualifications, points etc. no explanation was ever given so we were, and are, in the dark as to why.
My Brother in Law was working at Harwell in U.K. which for the benefit of those who do not know was the U.K. Govt. nuclear research establishment. He was and still is a very intelligent person. These days he runs his own consultancy company with contracts in the Middle and Far East. His wife is a teacher at senior level at a school in U.K. Their two daughters, who were at primary school in those days, both went on to attend university in Britain and obtain degrees with honours. One is now a Lawyer and the other works in Quantum Physics. All, you would have thought, would have been welcome in Australia.More annoying, at the time, was that Lebanese "refugees" were being welcomed into Australia by the Keating government despite their not having any of the necessary points etc.
To be fair a lot of those refugees have gone on to be an asset to this country. Indeed some run very successful businesses also but it is advisable not to delve too deeply in to what those enterprises actually involve.Let's just say that they feature most Monday mornings on the T.V. news about events over the previous weekend in the Western suburbs of both Sydney and Melbourne.

bosnich71 10th Jul 2014 03:53

MTOW ....... personally I think that Abbott should call a D.D. then if the Labour party is elected it would be interesting watching how they deal with the country's problems which at the moment they insist do not exist

500N 10th Jul 2014 03:55

Bos

We'll talk about it over that beer that we haven't had yet !

But you are right, their was a certain period where for some reason Poms weren't as welcome. Lots of South African's came in during that time.

I'd take a qualified person over an unqualified person.

parabellum 10th Jul 2014 03:57

Your relatives were/are grossly under qualified Bos, the direct route in, no problems, is either hairdresser or chef. Lawyer and Quantum Physics, what were you thinking? ;)

500N 10th Jul 2014 03:58

I think Palmer needs to stop playing bloody games and do what he said he would do instead of saying one thing
and at the last minute balking or reneging and double crossing people.

Just my HO.

rh200 10th Jul 2014 04:00


MTOW ....... personally I think that Abbott should call a D.D. then if the Labour party is elected it would be interesting watching how they deal with the country's problems which at the moment they insist do not exist
Thats my feeling, better to go out on principle and dumping it all in Labors lap.

Clare Prop 10th Jul 2014 04:38

I had all the points and even sponsorship and was knocked back twice, this was in the mid to late 80s. Third and successful attempt was seven years after the first (due to having to wait three years to reapply if you are turned down) the only difference being by then I had a CPL and Instructor rating, which didn't change my points.

I was told that the reason I was turned down was that they were only accepting Vietnamese immigrants at the time, it seemed nurses were the only white people allowed in.

500N 10th Jul 2014 04:54

That gels 100% with what I was told / heard.

I think some South Africans might have come in then or maybe a fraction later at the end of the 80's, early 90's.

Fubaar 10th Jul 2014 07:47

A European diplomat who was based here as his country's Consul General told me that if they tried to get a skilled Worker of the pink skinned varietty in to Australia to fill a job for one of their companies based here in Oz, they would have major difficulties and frequently, the application would be refused.

If they made the same application for exactly the same position and offered an Indian technician with exactly the same qualifications for the job, the application would be approved within days.

Hempy 10th Jul 2014 08:17


Originally Posted by 500N (Post 8556725)
That gels 100% with what I was told / heard.

I think some South Africans might have come in then or maybe a fraction later at the end of the 80's, early 90's.

So were you an economic immigrant or a political one?

I'll sign off from this thread taking great comfort from the fact that in 10-15 years 90% of the posters on this thread will be either in nursing homes, senile, or dead....well those that aren't already. Representatives of the generation responsible for the mess we are in in 2014 spending their twilight years living on pprune bathing in mass non mea culpa. Typical tbh.

Thank God for generation gaps :)


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