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MTOW 8th Jul 2014 07:13

At least by pulling out of her Timor deployment, we're saved from having Senator Lambie tag "veteran" to her cv.

Please, someone tell me the following yarn is untrue and an urban myth, but I remember back in the Vietnam years hearing that the Army had one posting every year to Vung Tau for a swimming pool attendant at Back Beach. That was his job for his whole tour. If it's true, there are half a dozen ageing war veterans out there probably on Gold Cards for an overexposure to chlorine.

If she continues to play the "military" card, (as she seems very willing to do), how long before some of the people who knew in the military start dropping a few details of their recollections of her into cyberspace? Not long, I would think.

500N 8th Jul 2014 07:14

Interesting re public opinion. From the Herald Sun. Look at the comment on the 500 comments.

Asylum seekers Court of public opinion backs boats policy
ANALYSIS: The Federal Government knows it is on an electoral winner with the hard-line policy against people arriving in Australia by boat.

FEW issues excite such passion in Australia as the arrival of asylum seekers by boat. Within a few hours of our report going up on the High Court putting a temporary halt to government plans to hand 153 asylum seekers back to the Sri Lankan navy, there were more than 500 comments on heraldsun.com.au. Most of them were in favour of Australia’s decision to hand them over.

500N 8th Jul 2014 07:20

Mtow,

Yes, it was true but I think they were yanks.

Vung Tau ? Vietnam's Hottest R&R Destination

I was stationed in Vung Tau from December 1968 to December 1969. I was a lifeguard at the back beach for the first six months, then I ran the ice cream plant that provided ice cream for about 7,000 troops a week including the Aussies.

7x7 8th Jul 2014 07:21

Re the knife attack/murder in Parramatta Westgate yesterday: Middle Eastern male finds out that the woman he is now 'seeing' (in the Biblical sense) has been 'known' (in the biblical sense) by another male previously. Middle Eastern male's 'honour' dictates that there is only one option available to him. And we (and hundreds of children) saw that only option in action yesterday. His reaction after the murder shows clearly that, honour satisfied, he's quite proud of what he did.

SOPS 8th Jul 2014 07:23

If he is found guilty, I hope is as equally as proud of his jail sentence.

500N 8th Jul 2014 07:33

Who did he kill though ?

The woman ?


Afterwards, he stood around, took his shirt off and lit a smoke !

SOPS 8th Jul 2014 07:45

I understand it he killed the women's ex boyfriend.

Takan Inchovit 8th Jul 2014 08:03

Aaahh yes, you cant beat a good honest honour killing. :hmm:

rh200 8th Jul 2014 09:29

I'm wondering if the government has something else up its sleeve with regards to the illegals. Another words thought of this and have a contingency in place, one can only hope.

What gets me is all the f4356 money its costing us extra to enforce because of these dogooders.

As for the piece of sh!t, he will get a light sentence, emotional outrage or temporary insanity. He was only carrying the weapon after all for cultural reasons.:E

Actually you will know when it gets bad when they get permission to carry AK47's here due to cultural reasons and we can't:p.

bosnich71 8th Jul 2014 09:44

500 .... I've often told the story of a Yank unit during WW2 whose main claim to fame was getting an 'Ice Cream making plant" ashore in Normandy and operating a short time after D-day.
Should add that they were a blanket stacking unit.

Pinky the pilot 8th Jul 2014 10:46


Actually you will know when it gets bad when they get permission to carry AK47's here due to cultural reasons and we can't
In which case I`d apply for permission to carry a No 1 Mk3* SMLE.:ok:

On cultural grounds of course.:D After all, the above mentioned firearm is part of Australia`s Military cultural heritage.:ok:

Either way, the average AK user generally uses the `spray and pray` method, whereas the SMLE method is `aim carefully and fire.` Guess which one is more effective?:=

Worrals; Re my post about ignoring/disregarding the High Court. That was about the answer I expected, but let me bowl another googly.:eek:
What would you do with an `activist` High Court which decides to not just interpret the law but as was argued by some with the Mabo case, actually make new laws!

As I remember, the Mabo case was called by some in the Legal profession (and the Media of course) as exceeding the powers given to the High Court, being described as actually not interpreting the law but making a new law!

IMO, the role if the High Court or any Court is to rule on the law that exists, not make new ones, which is Parliaments job and I still remember the discussion that went on after the Mabo case. As for its merits, I`m no lawyer but a friend of mine is and in his opinion (gained over a drink or three at the time) the High Court overstepped the mark.:oh:

500N 8th Jul 2014 13:48

So now we have 150 or so on a boat, in legal limbo while people fluff around trying to stick it up the Gov't.

You have to wonder what these guys get out of it.

Also, it is interesting that they picked up one lot of AS outside of Australian territorial waters !

oicur12.again 8th Jul 2014 14:02

We ozmates ARE an angry and racist bunch.

Are we not all boat people or descendants thereof?

What has changed?

500N 8th Jul 2014 14:06

No, I am not a descendant of boat people.

Racist - no, Australia isn't racist !


"What has changed?"

People are pissed of with people who try to circumvent the system
which everyone else has to adhere to.

And trying to come here when they are not true refugees.


The feedback in the HeraldSun posted above even surprised me.

oicur12.again 8th Jul 2014 14:44

"No, I am not a descendant of boat people."

But most are.

"Australia isn't racist"

It is VERY racist.

"everyone else has to adhere to."

What system?

"People are pissed of"

Sums up the general Australian psyche really.

"people who try to circumvent the system"

Asylum seekers are not circumventing the system. You should spend more time thinking and less time reading . . . The Herald Sun. Unless pictures are more suitable for you.

"And trying to come here when they are not true refugees"

You think they are here on vacation?

"The feedback in the Herald Sun . . . ."

. . . is nothing more than the opinion of an uninformed largely uneducated mob.

500N 8th Jul 2014 14:50

I hardly ever read the Herald Sun.

"Asylum seekers are not circumventing the system."

Yes they are. They can apply like everyone else.

A lot come here because of the economic reasons.

Here is a direct quote
"Mrs Saparamadu said that after she gave an interview to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation in 2012 or 2013, she said she was harassed by Sri Lankan authorities and that her family had decided that their best option was to go to another country like New Zealand that offered better economic circumstances.

oicur12.again 8th Jul 2014 14:56

“I hardly ever read the Herald Sun.”

Except when gauging feedback on a particularly important issue.

“Yes they are. They can apply like everyone else.”

What system???????

“Here is a direct quote…..”

Wow, quoting ONE person. Awesome, surely an accurate summary of the situation then.

500N 8th Jul 2014 15:06

oicur12.again

It was pure fluke I read the article in the Herald Sun. I went there for something else.

"What system???????"

Apply to come to Aus like everyone else, either normally or as a refugee / Asylum Seeker. Like most countries have, including the US !

"Wow, quoting ONE person. Awesome, surely an accurate summary of the situation then."

Er, I think you will find plenty of other examples are available from the last 2 years where they have said they want to come here because they would be better off.

20 year old, fir, muscle bound Iranians with the latest mobile phone and laptop computer are not Asylum Seekers from persecution. Last I read Iran was a stable, prosperous country, not at war with anyone.

Sri Lanka is also now not at war with anyone. Yes, a bit of bad feeling is likely to exist between the two sides but nothing like what went on a few years back during the war which even I will admit was pretty brutal !

500N 8th Jul 2014 15:18

oicur12.again

Re racist, yes, we are racist, but not nearly as much as Aborigine Australians who just hate all
"whiteys" or "white cnts" as they call us as well as anyone not full blood ! :rolleyes:

oicur12.again 8th Jul 2014 15:31

“Apply to come to Aus like everyone else, either normally or as a refugee / Asylum Seeker. Like most countries have, including the US !”

This comment indicates that you have little or no understanding of article 31 or really any of the legalities pertaining to the seeking of asylum. I can point you in the direction of some very informative web sites that could assist if you like?

“Er, I think you will find plenty of other examples are available from the last 2 years”

I think you should find these examples, document them and analyze them before forming your rather uninformed opinion.

“where they have said they want to come here because they would be better off.”

Do you really think if given a choice asylum seekers would chose a destination where they would be worse off?

“20 year old, fir, muscle bound Iranians with the latest mobile phone and laptop computer are not Asylum Seekers from persecution.”

Again, I encourage you to undertake some research before simply regurgitating the right wing talking point nonsense that is totally void of fact.

“not nearly as much as Aborigine Australians who just hate all
"whiteys" or "white cnts" as they call us as well as anyone not full blood”

And to think one of your opening statements was “Australia isn’t racist”. The scratch didn’t need to go that deep did it?


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