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7x7 3rd Jul 2014 08:21

Alana McTernan, a Labor politician, who "just happened" to be visiting Christmas Island, announced that Christmas Island authorities were preparing for the arrival of 150 asylum seekers "from India" before anyone else knew such details.

That smacks of inside knowledge - i.e., it would seem she was part of the game and was there in Christmas Island to provide the cameras with a talking head to publicise the "failure" of the government's stop the boats policy when the country shoppers arrived (as those who orchestrated the whole episode fully expected the government would have no other option but to follow).

If someone like Hedley Thomas can prove this to be true, the woman should be prosecuted.

500N 3rd Jul 2014 08:28

7x7

Agree.

Captain Dart 3rd Jul 2014 09:28

Aardvark is either a paid troll, who rushes out insubstantial posts and moves on to the next website, or a bit simple. I remember picking him or her up referring to his or her beloved 'Labour' Party. Correct in the U.K., but a schoolboy 'howler' here.

Not being able to spell one's national heroes is not a good look.

Many on this forum are self-made flight crew and engineers. The 'politics of envy', and the support by our taxes of bludgers, Islamic ingrate troublemakers and illegal immigrants does not sit well with us. Not to mention the cringeworthy incompetence of the previous 'government'.

bosnich71 3rd Jul 2014 10:38

Sops .... I finally wised up the scam when, some years back, we had families of 'detainees' here in Melbourne demonstrating outside the immigration facility in Maribynong attempting to pressure the authorities into freeing their family members.
Having had members of my own family knocked back from emigrating to Australia I accepted the decision made by the immigration authorities despite those family members having very good qualifications and passing the points test in use in those days.
Probably that's why I do not have any sympathy with the present bunch attempting to circumvent the rules despite the tears of the likes of Sarah 2 Dads.
P.s. appeals to my Member of Parliament, on behalf of my family member, drew a blank.

Ethel the Aardvark 3rd Jul 2014 19:40

Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz is on a media blitz to decisively warn against Hockey and Abbott's woefully misguided economic plan for Australia
Messages Stiglitz delivered forcefully this week on ABC Lateline and PM, as well as elsewhere, include:

Australia’s economy has been travelling extremely well and needs no major shift in policy settings.
Welfare spending must be increased rather than reduced for sound long-term outcomes.
Now is the time for assets to be built and bought — not sold off.

I don't think an Arlington type cemetery would be an asset.
Anything else Abbotomy and his leading crew come up with

500N 3rd Jul 2014 19:43


I don't think an Arlington type cemetery would be an asset.
WOFTAM

We don't have a history of central war cemetery.

The dead buried where they were or go home.

rh200 3rd Jul 2014 21:58


Nobel prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz
Doesn't he have form for just being a typical socialist and lefty? Further reinforced by the fact he has a Nobel prize.

Frankly is their anyone who thinks having a Nobel prize is not a joke these days, can anyone remember when was given was deserved.

500N 3rd Jul 2014 22:30

Rh

I said that on here and was shouted down.

Must be some worthy winners but i think it lost a lot of cred when obama was awarded it.

Andu 3rd Jul 2014 22:45

I saw part of the Joseph Stiglitz interview on Sky. It was like a Julia Gillard love fest. Stiglitz and his Leftie thinkalikes are running a giant Ponzi scheme, racking up bills that one day, someone will have to pay - but not them.

If they're not, they have a far darker, even sinister purpose - to beggar and gut the current at least half way viable capitalist economies of the West, for history has shown that Socialism can only come to power (at least through the ballot box) when the population is broke.

This can be illustrated by hoary old yarn about the long-term, totally Communist who turned his back on Communism after attending a lecture by a visiting luminary from Russia.
His friend asked him why that turned him off Communism.
"He told us that if all the wealth in the world was distributed equally, each and every man, woman and child would get $2,500."
"OK... so what's wrong with that?" asked his friend.
The ex-Communist replied:"I have $3,000 in the bank."

rh200 4th Jul 2014 02:23


Must be some worthy winners but i think it lost a lot of cred when obama was awarded it.
To be fair, the Nobel is a bit like Wikipedia, if its not controversial its fine and most likely deserved.

So anything where you can get the extreme right or left in on an opinion, forget it. So finance economics your stuffed because you get the two sides.

500N 4th Jul 2014 02:32

Abc radio at lunchtime talking about the sl a/s.

The guy said returning confirmed refugees !!!

How the hell can they be confirmed before they left india or S/L ?

Emotive clap trap.

500N 4th Jul 2014 02:34

Rh,
Obama, if he had been right, left or centre was a bad choice as he hadn't done anything at all but make a few speeches.

rh200 4th Jul 2014 04:13


Obama, if he had been right, left or centre was a bad choice as he hadn't done anything at all but make a few speeches.
Ahhh, but grasshopper:p, you forget he's the darling of the left, the black messier who can do no wrong. That alone is worth a Nobel.

500N 4th Jul 2014 05:01

Funny how the tory changes !

From the Australian

SRI Lankan asylum-seekers who boarded a fishing boat off the coast of south India last month believed they were heading to New Zealand, not Australia, the worried relatives of several people on board the missing boat told The Australian yesterday.

Chennai-based Sri Lankan Tamil refugee advocate Samuel Chelvanayakam Chandrahasan said 57 of the 153 people on board the fishing vessel that left Pondicherry on June 13 had come from Indian government-sponsored Tamil refugee camps around the southern state of Tamil Nadu.

SOPS 4th Jul 2014 08:37

I hope this is not true, however, my question is how do these families get in touch with these people so well, when, firstly, no one seems to know where they are and if they are being totured, I assume it does not happen with a mobile phone in their hand.

Or maybe I read it wrongly, and they had been totured in the past. In that case they were safe in India, no need to attempt a leaky boat ride.

Refugee council warns Tamil asylum seekers' lives in danger amid reports Australia handing them back to Sri Lankan navy - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

500N 4th Jul 2014 09:28

I notice the ABC very quick to run it.

They might have been tortured in the past but the war is over.

Worrals in the wilds 4th Jul 2014 09:59


They might have been tortured in the past but the war is over.
Are these wars ever really over? :sad:
I haven't really been doing politics recently, but this cropped up and had a strange relevance to modern times: Caution, religious content. :\:}

Revelation 20 (NRSV)
I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, threw him into the pit and locked and sealed it over him, so that he would deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be let out for a little while.


Then I saw thrones, and those seated on them were given authority to judge. I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


The Bible is a funny ol' thing. Just when you think it's dusty and irrelevant it throws up a paragraph or two that make you realize that the human world never really changes much, even 1900 years later. Whoever actually wrote the Book of Revelation was a person who understood people and politics, and we haven't changed much since AD/CE 60. Nor have the issues; insert your 24 hour news channel of choice and the story hasn't really changed. :(
John the Apostle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation

Ethel the Aardvark 4th Jul 2014 22:13

Professor Joseph Stiglitz from New York City's Columbia University is in Australia. Stiglitz’s razor edge in global economics was honed teaching at Yale, Princeton and Oxford, and then as chief economist and vice-president of the World Bank in the late 1990s.
I suppose if my main media input was Michael Smith and the rest of Murdochs cronies then my view would be a touch tainted as well.
I see Blabbott has offended the first Aussies again, has he inherited Downers speech writer by any chance?

Captain Dart 4th Jul 2014 22:36

The 'first Aussies' should be down on their bended knees daily thanking whatever 'god' they believe in that Australia was colonised by the British, before the French, the Spanish or the Portuguese got here.

Sounds like they are becoming as easily offendable as the Muslims.

Ethel the Aardvark 4th Jul 2014 22:43

Here we go again! There are other sources than Mr Bolt you know!


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