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Saltie 11th Jun 2014 21:15

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
500n, was this what you were looking for? ( copied from 7x7's post on the last page,)

If the ABC really wanted to do Gillard a favour they would be all over this story, exposing every single honest and factual piece of evidence and exploring and explaining just why she is innocent – and would have done this from the first if they were any credible organisation.

The fact that they haven’t exposes a mindset that is perhaps terrified of what the truth could mean.

Katrina (Reply)
Wed 11 Jun 14 (11:25am)

500N 11th Jun 2014 21:17

Saltie

Yes, that was it, thanks :ok:

Not sure of what others think but I thought it very true, both about they should have done it
and the fact that the didn't makes them lose credibility.

500N 11th Jun 2014 21:25

Re Ricky Muir and that interview.

I was listening to 774 ABC yesterday at about 2.15pm, can't remember the presenter but he waffles on.

Anyway, he interviewed a lady who was head of Women truckers in the US.
I thought she came across really well, well presented information, knew here stuff, facts, figures, direction etc.

Anyway, afterwards, the presenter said "Well Ricky, that is how you do an interview and then said what I had thought above".

It was very true.

Clare Prop 12th Jun 2014 04:47

Royal Commission into union governance blah blah
 
And so Gillard's ex squeeze Bruce Wilson continues to squirm in the witness box.

I'm reminded of the courtroom scene in The Castle where the judge tells the solicitor

"Your case is not strong"

Royal Commission Live Portal

Andu 12th Jun 2014 06:03

Can't help but feel that Bruce might have had his fingers and toes crossed when he swore to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing by the truth before starting to give his testimony this morning.

With the above point in mind, I also can't help but feel that his nose might not be growing as the day progresses.

Much comment on other sites about the way the ALPBC is studiously ignoring, or at best, offering minimal coverage of the Royal Commission. Not just the ABC - in this morning's (Sydney) Daily Telegraph, it made it to page 9.

Captain Sand Dune 12th Jun 2014 07:01

Will Bruce take the heat for Joolya?

CoodaShooda 12th Jun 2014 08:50

According to the last news report I've seen, Bruce does not seem to believe there's any heat to be taken.

Everyone else who's testified to date has lied (allegedly).

Andu 12th Jun 2014 10:28

Yes Cooda, the only clip I've seen of the RC was the barrister asking Wilson the same question over and over again and getting the same answer to each question:
Barrister: "So Mr A was lying?"
Wilson: "Yes"
Barrister: "So Mr B was lying?"
Wilson: "Yes"
Barrister: "So Mr C was lying?"
Wilson: "Yes"
Barrister: "So Mr D was lying?"
Wilson: "Yes"
Barrister: "So Mr E was lying?"
Wilson: "Yes"
Barrister: "So Mr F was lying?"
Wilson: "Yes"

chuboy 13th Jun 2014 12:30

Nobody here has anything to say about Tone's recent admission that he has been a conservationist all along? Or is it deafening silence :p

I am a conservationist: Tony Abbott says no friction with Barack Obama on climate change action

The man is unravelling. Or has he earned the moniker "Mad Monk" fair and square?

rh200 13th Jun 2014 13:19


Nobody here has anything to say about Tone's recent admission that he has been a conservationist all along? Or is it deafening silence
Yea I do, I think he's right. The fact is a prosperous economy is able to more for the environment in the long term one then a stagnant one.

If you bother to read the article and all the observations by the contributers, you will see the main drop was most likely due to manufacturing quiting. You will also note that the coal fired stations that have been shut down for a while will fire back up again as gas prices increase.

The whole bullsh!t about what is causing the lowered electricity usage is a farce. Whilst some of it is due to higher prices, most of it is due to technology and the availability of electrically efficient devices. Most of which get exchanged on a regular basis anyway. For example throwing away old type tv's, airconditioners etc.

These have huge impacts on personal consumption, hence you get a large drop with new technology uptake and then it levels of till the next break though.

Flying Binghi 15th Jun 2014 10:58


via rh200:
...Whats the size of the company in people terms and finance, whats the equivalent in other companies? You get what you pay for...
La Poste, France, 100% government owned, 2013 revenue 22 billion, 268,000 employees. Remuneration of CEO: 736,490.


US Postal Service, 100% government owned, 2013 revenue US $ 66 billion, 626,764 employees. Remuneration of CEO: US $550,000.


Australia Post, 100% government owned, 2013 revenue $5.8 billion, 32,732 employees. Remuneration of CEO: $4.8 million.



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rh200 15th Jun 2014 21:16


Australia Post, 100% government owned, 2013 revenue $5.8 billion, 32,732 employees. Remuneration of CEO: $4.8 million.
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of equivalent sized commercial companys. Reason being we seem to be going down the path with some of our government enterprise of commercializing.

500N 15th Jun 2014 23:45

OK, What is it with the "everybody is an angel" when some kid dies because of stupidity ??? - see article below.

Yes, we have all done stupid things in our lives, especially when kids or young adults but every time some kids dies at their own hand, they are angles, everyone loved them, they never did anything wrong, the sun shines out of their arse etc etc etc.

Well, if you stick your head out or hang off a train, then you can expect the odd whack.

I have done in on this exact train line and know this station (Malvern) and have nearly had my head taken off by a pillar that sticks out !

Rant over !


Father pays tribute to his 'beautiful boy', killed near Malvern train station

chuboy 16th Jun 2014 00:09

Well, he's hardly going to say his recently-deceased son is a moron who deserved his demise for acting so recklessly, even if it's true! :ok:

Flying Binghi 16th Jun 2014 01:41


via rh200:
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of equivalent sized commercial companys. Reason being we seem to be going down the path with some of our government enterprise of commercializing.
You'll have to do yer own research there rh200, i just seen that post in passing and thought it might help you. Of interest, just doing a ruf calc in me head the revenue per employee might be an interesting compare..:ok:











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parabellum 16th Jun 2014 02:40


but every time some kids dies at their own hand, they are angles, everyone loved them, they never did anything wrong, the sun shines out of their arse etc etc etc.

Gets my goat whenever they report an accident to a car and the occupants are killed, parent/neighbours tell you what wonderful lads they were and then it transpires the car was stolen! When is a journalist going to say, "Yes, they may have been good lads in your eyes but to the rest of Australia they are thieves!" Answer = never.

500N 16th Jun 2014 02:53

Parabellum

The one that sticks in my mind was some kids got killed in a car accident.
The car picked up some kids from a house and crashed at the end of the street - which BTW was a normal suburban street.
The Police estimated it must have been doing 100kmh and was hardly any distance from where they set of from.

And of course everyone came out saying as above.

WTF was their son doing 100 kmh for in a side street ???

Worrals in the wilds 16th Jun 2014 02:53

And then the family blame the coppers for chasing them. :ugh::ugh:

parabellum 16th Jun 2014 03:09

True and true Worrals and 500N. Frequently the dead in the accidents don't wear seat belts either! :mad:

500N 16th Jun 2014 03:09

I honestly thought I'd get shouted down by a lot of people, obviously I hit the nail on the head and am not the only one who feels that way.


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