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500N 2nd Jun 2014 12:01

Bosnich

OK, thanks

500N 2nd Jun 2014 12:26

Interesting quick poll in the Age after the Turnbull hammers Andrew Bolt article.

74% think that Turnbull should lead the Liberals
and only 8% voted for Tony Abbott.

CoodaShooda 2nd Jun 2014 21:17

I thought the Age was only read by labor/Greens voters. :confused::E

bosnich71 2nd Jun 2014 22:48

I read the Age on Sunday...it's a better laugh than the Beano ever was, especially the 'readers letters'.

500N 2nd Jun 2014 22:50

Cooda

Well, the Herald Sun is subscription (after the 5 freebies) as is the Australian and Fin Review.

Of course, if I want REAL, hard hitting news, I look at the NT News :O :p

alisoncc 2nd Jun 2014 23:06

From this mornings Australian:


IT was not the glowing introduction a new Australian prime minister on the eve of his first visit to the White House would have likely preferred.

A US political satire TV show has taken aim at Tony Abbott, airing a four-minute segment featuring some of his most embarrassing and controversial moments.

"Did you know there are other countries that are not America and each of them has a leader of its very own?" the segment on HBO's Last Week Tonight with John Oliver asked.

"Let's take a moment to meet one."

Did US viewers see the infamous Winkgate moment? Yes.

A school kid describing how his mum calls the prime minister "Tony Dumb Dumb"? Yes.

Abbott's comment that he'd probably "feel a bit threatened" by gays? Yes.

His "s*** happens" comment while discussing a Queensland soldier killed in Afghanistan? Yes.

His "housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing" remark? Yes.

Viewers even saw a shirtless Abbott on the beach in his budgie smugglers.

Abbott was described on the show as a "hard-line right wing prime minister" who "rose to power promising to be pro-business and religiously anti-immigration".

The show then noted Abbott was born in England.

"What is it about Tony Dumb Dumb that has led to his current approval rating of 30 per cent?" the show asked its viewers.

"Could it be that he has personally insulted everyone else in the country from women, to gays, to anyone remotely Irish, to elderly cancer-ridden phone sex workers?"

The segment comes as Abbott embarks on a tour to Europe, Canada and the US, with a stop at the White House to meet Obama.

Ethel the Aardvark 3rd Jun 2014 00:00

When we were embarrassed for the US when they had George W at the helm it appears the situation has reversed somewhat!
Roll on the DD
Bernadi was showing his true smarmy colours on question time last night.
250 million for school chaplains will be abbotomy's pink bats moment for sure

BenThere 3rd Jun 2014 00:20

They never bothered to ask me. I'm a big Tony Abbott fan. I find it refreshing to have a decent, honest, diligent public servant at the helm in Australia. He's a lot like Romney in that regard. Pity Americans weren't as perceptive as Australians in 2012.:{

I think Abbott will do right by you, just like Howard did. The press and schools will howl and wail, and they may win the next one by doing so, but Australia's a lot better off with Abbott in the driver's seat. Trust me.

rh200 3rd Jun 2014 01:08


250 million for school chaplains will be abbotomy's pink bats moment for sure
I'm an atheist, and I would prefer to have a school chaplain instead of some wacko counselor from the social science part of the universities.

alisoncc 3rd Jun 2014 01:35

Remember reading not too long ago that some wierd evangelical sect had scored the bulk of the contract. All we want now is a bunch of "creationists" brain washing the kids. Makes me shudder.

dat581 3rd Jun 2014 01:35

I doubt having chaplains back in our schools will cause any deaths, unlike Krudd's pink bats. If they tone down the religious content a bit and focus on helping kids they can only be a good thing.

Ethel the Aardvark 3rd Jun 2014 01:39

oh so much better to have a chaplain trained in nothing but religious beliefs than a whacko councillor. I can't believe how much some of you believe downturn Abbott's twaddle.
I would suggest a percentage of chaplains should not be allowed any where near children. your guess is as good as mine as to which ones.

alisoncc 3rd Jun 2014 01:47

By far the biggest problem is when people who "mean" well fail to adequately police their intentions. Pink Bats was a good example as will be Abbotts chaplains. Suppose some judge determines that having only Christian chaplains is unconstitutional, and directs that Moslem, Hindi, et al. be included, what then? Would you really want Sheik xxxxx counselling your kids?

500N 3rd Jun 2014 01:49

rh200

Catch 22, in view of all that has gone on with religious figures :rolleyes:

Am an atheist and have been since before school.

Always liked the Salvos but heard some disturbing stuff on the radio
the other day to do with the commission !

As long as the kids aren't brain washed !

parabellum 3rd Jun 2014 02:47


When we were embarrassed for the US when they had George W

When you were embarrassed Ethel, not 'we', lot of people think George W. was a goodun.



oh so much better to have a chaplain trained in nothing but religious beliefs than a whacko councillor.

Trouble with professional counsellors, Ethel, is they tend to be rabid left wingers, from the same stable as the teacher who told her kids to write to the PM and tell him all asylum seekers should be allowed in, or the teacher that rigged a school debate so that the kids voted for the Aboriginal flag to replace the Australian flag.

david1300 3rd Jun 2014 03:34


Originally Posted by alisoncc (Post 8504939)
Remember reading not too long ago that some wierd evangelical sect had scored the bulk of the contract. All we want now is a bunch of "creationists" brain washing the kids. Makes me shudder.

Care to quote a source or is this another of the many unsourced 'pulled out if the air' borderline slanderous/disparaging/scurrilous/unsourced throwaway lines so loved by those out on the port flapper (flapper as in the thing that keeps a bird in the air).

The credibility of the quoted post, and others, is seriously compromised when the veracity of said post is delegated to the (possibly doubtful) recollection of the scribe :p

rh200 3rd Jun 2014 04:12


All we want now is a bunch of "creationists" brain washing the kids. Makes me shudder.
The vast majority of, Chaplains I have met have been anything bust pushy, in fact usually the opposite.On the the other hand the wacko's from the social science degrees have been brainwashed into all sorts of ideological [email protected] usually revolving around some wacko academic who has had no life experience.

Another example of the left trying to push a mythos of religion is evil.


Catch 22, in view of all that has gone on with religious figures
I'll think you will find statistically its small, and frankly any closed sort of system has a tendency to attract or bring out the worst in people.

alisoncc 3rd Jun 2014 05:23


Care to quote a source or is this another of the many unsourced 'pulled out if the air' borderline slanderous/disparaging/scurrilous/unsourced throwaway lines so loved by those out on the port flapper (flapper as in the thing that keeps a bird in the air).

The credibility of the quoted post, and others, is seriously compromised when the veracity of said post is delegated to the (possibly doubtful) recollection of the scribe :p
david1300, PM me your phone number and I will walk you through this magical facility run by Google than enables anyone, and I mean anyone, to find things on the Internet. Even the thick sh*ts.


ACCESS Ministries provides Chaplains to 280 Victorian schools, and 96 per cent of special religious education classes.

Reverend Paddison tells the conference that students are "the greatest mission field in Australia”.

EVONNE PADDISON: We have the responsibility of fulfilling the great commission of making disciples. We need to see our scripture teachers, our chaplains especially, as facilitators. We need to be missional.
Religion in Victorian Government schools | The Good Schools Guide


Concern about “religious proselytising” has been fuelled by coverage of a speech by the chief executive of ACCESS Ministries, Canon Dr Evonne Paddison, which revealed that the organisation sees the NSCP as a recruiting ground for children and young people. One of Dr Paddison’s proclamations included a statement that “in Australia we have a God-given open door to children and young people with the Gospel, our federal and state governments allow us to take the Christian faith into our schools and share it. We need to go and make disciples.”
And more recent:

Access Ministries under scrutiny after 'inappropriate and offensive' material given out at Victorian primary school - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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Ethel the Aardvark 3rd Jun 2014 06:59

Thanks Parra,
George W and Blabbott are both of the same ilk. Both can pull off the open mouth, gormless look if they are asked simple questions.
Everyone knows Cheney was pulling Georgies strings but I can't work out who is pulling Blabbots, in a few months it won't really matter.

bugged on the right 3rd Jun 2014 08:43

Something I find very disturbing is the way the lefties on this forum change the names of people and organisations. For example we have UKIP being changed to UKRAP, Abbott being changed to Abbottomy, Blabbot, Daily Mail to Daily Fail. and others. This does nothing to enhance your case and makes your posts appear juvenile.


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