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MTOW 22nd Apr 2014 03:56

After last night's 7.30 Report, Larry Pickering is stirring the pot once again.


All three of the UK’s major Parties have expressed alarm at a letter circulating among 25 of Birmingham’s schools: "We have an obligation to our children to fulfil our roles and ensure these schools are run on Islamic principles. We are on our way to getting rid of even more head teachers and taking over their schools."

The letter continued: "You must remember this is a 'jihad', and as such, all means possible to win the war is acceptable."

Birmingham has a large Islamic population, 22 percent of the city's residents identified themselves as “Islamic” in the 2011 census.

AFP reported, “Since the letter emerged, whistleblowers including former staff have come forward making claims that boys and girls have been separated in classrooms and assemblies.

"Sex education has been banned and non-Muslim staff are being vilified”.

Al-Queda operative and firebrand cleric, Anwar al-Awlaki (pictured) was killed by a US drone strike in Yemen in 2011. His teachings are now highly praised in school assemblies.

Concerns about how some 430 schools in the Birmingham were being run first emerged last year in a leaked anonymous letter which outlined how to implement what it called “Operation Trojan Horse”.

The schools are State-funded but self-governing and independent of local control.

"We have no idea who is running these schools”, an observer said.

The Birmingham Council is due to publish its findings on the matter by mid-June.

Education Secretary Michael Gove has sent inspectors to a further 15 Birmingham schools in recent weeks.

Prime Minister David Cameron spoke about the issue on a visit to Birmingham earlier this month, saying: "We will not accept any school being run by extremists or promoting extremist views."

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said Monday that schools should not be allowed to become "silos of segregation".

He continued, "...I am very concerned whenever I hear allegations that schools, funded by the taxpayer, have become vehicles for the propagation of particular ideologies which divide young children and pupils from other people", he said.

It is indeed ominous that neither Clegg nor Cameron uttered the words, “Muslim” or “Islam” when announcing their concerns.

We in Australia are also forbidden from identifying the source of a clear and present danger by “virtue” of our Section 18C.

It appears we must wait until an obvious threat from within (and supported from without) becomes incurable cancer.

Vigilante groups like the Australian Defence League are already mushrooming in Australia while the Government continues to sit on its hands.

Perhaps Canberra doesn’t have a 22 percent Muslim population... well, not yet.

Fubaar 22nd Apr 2014 05:14

With Bazza's demise and Arfur's almost certain demise to follow, the Libs seem to have forgotten the first rule of holding an inquiry: never hold an inquiry into anything you don't already know all the answers to.

..or, with a nod of respect to Nifty Nev, "...unless you own the judges who'll be doing the inquiry, lock, stock and barrel."

Saltie 23rd Apr 2014 11:08

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
Soooo... The F35 buy announced immediately before what looks like being a ball-crushing budget for many. Visionary? Or impossible to sell to someone losing benefits they feel 'entitled' to?

I find myself hoping the naysayers who continue to lambast the F35 have got it wrong. But fear there might be some substance to their allegations of underperformance and totally out of control cost blowouts.

rh200 23rd Apr 2014 11:13


I find myself hoping the naysayers who continue to lambast the F35 have got it wrong. But fear there might be some substance to their allegations of underperformance and totally out of control cost blowouts.
I'm not exactly a F35 fan, but sadly I fear its the only real drink on the shelf.

chuboy 23rd Apr 2014 12:39


I'm not exactly a F35 fan, but sadly I fear its the only real drink on the shelf.
And why exactly should we be drinking at all when there's nothing but lint in our pockets to pay for it?

The doublethink is strong with this government.

parabellum 23rd Apr 2014 12:43


And why exactly should we be drinking at all when there's nothing but lint in our pockets to pay for it?

According to Abbott, on tonight's TV news, this is not 'new money' and has been set aside by governments various over the last ten years. Not sure what kind of 'set aside' he means though!

alisoncc 23rd Apr 2014 20:54

So what other monies have been "set aside" by previous governments for various purposes? Is there a mega-billion slush fund that we don't know about? Set aside to fund politicians retirement for instance or similar.

500N 23rd Apr 2014 20:59

I think the word is budgeted, as part of the Defense White Paper.

So not a slush fund as such.

CoodaShooda 23rd Apr 2014 21:21

I think the key words missing from most reports are "through life cost".

The program costs also include infrastructure development at Williamtown and Tindal.

500N 23rd Apr 2014 21:26

Yes, agreed.

I liked this in the media

"Has had problems with vulnerability to electrical storms, though the Pentagon says this is being fixed"


It will go well at Tindal in the build up to the wet season and the wet season
with the huge storms and lighting they have there !

rh200 23rd Apr 2014 21:50


And why exactly should we be drinking at all when there's nothing but lint in our pockets to pay for it?
Would you like to end up like the Ukraine one day!

Seriously, we all know we can't possibly defend ourselves against an major power in the near future, and our defence has always revolved around the yanks playing backstop.

But F#$% me you have to at least make half an effort make it look like you care. I mean its not as if the Yanks charge for being in an alliance. But there is a price to pay.

500N 23rd Apr 2014 21:57

The Yanks have Pine Gap to protect, plus maybe Tindal if they base a few aircraft there ! ;)

rh200 23rd Apr 2014 23:33


The Yanks have Pine Gap to protect, plus maybe Tindal if they base a few aircraft there !
Not a great deal then, makes it easy to move in a hurry if you need to.:E

bosnich71 24th Apr 2014 04:50

Should have bought Russian, they've got heaps of 'em waiting for buyers and cheaper ! :uhoh:

Worrals in the wilds 24th Apr 2014 04:52

You'd need to teach all the RAAF people Russian so they could read the controls / manuals ...:}

rh200 24th Apr 2014 05:19


You'd need to teach all the RAAF people Russian so they could read the controls / manuals ...
In relation to recent events we wouldn't want that then would we:E.

Might need to be a new citizenship requirement filter, "Do you speak Russian?" Answer "Yes". Citizenship declined. "Do you want to learn Russian in school?", "nope sorry teaching of that language is not allowed".

Captain Sand Dune 24th Apr 2014 11:08

More toys....whoo hoo.
Pity the training system that supplies the guys to fly 'em is ****** because it's been ignored for the last 15 years:mad:

bosnich71 24th Apr 2014 11:50

I see Sarah Two Dads attended the reception for the royals in canberra tonight despite her deeply held republican views......... hypocritical Moo.

Worrals... the Indons are buying them so there must be a translation service out there somewhere. Then again having had dealings with Indonesian aircrew in the past I sometimes think that they wouldn't bother reading the manuals anyway.

Andu 24th Apr 2014 11:55

I understand that there is some basis to Cap'n SD's comment. After completing their pilot's course, there have been instances over the last few years where Boggies have waited literally years (by which time they're no longer Boggies[!]) for a basic conversion course on their first squadron.

As for TwoDads, it would perhaps be best not to comment.

I16 24th Apr 2014 13:48

Well I just heard on TEN that newsreader Hugh Rimmerton wished everyone a happy ANZAC Day tomorrow - what a complete prat .
Australia you have a considerable problem.


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