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Fubaar 28th May 2012 23:37

And PM Gillard's popularity has jumped 4 points in the latest poll? Who are these people? It is a reaction to the budget handouts?

RJM 29th May 2012 04:09

Well it's not me.

bob johns 29th May 2012 04:31

bob johns
 
I would suspect the polling that shows an improvement for that creature and its collective of vermin(lower case is deliberate )would in all probability be taken in the Balmain or Broken Hill social democratic club or the Minto Centrelink office, certainly not in working Australia.

EffohX 29th May 2012 05:24

A four point rise (to *** 30!!) has probably saved Gillard from a leadership spill this week. That's very good news for the country. A change of leader will muddy the waters and convince some deluded individuals (and 99% of the ever hopeful Canberra press gallery) that Labor might have a chance of resurrecting itself.

Thankfully, under Gillard, they have the staying afloat and gliding capabilities of the Washington Monument.

Worrals in the wilds 29th May 2012 10:29


And PM Gillard's popularity has jumped 4 points in the latest poll? Who are these people? It is a reaction to the budget handouts?
Nah. I just think that she's more popular than Gina this week :E. I don't see it lasting.

On another note, if anyone's short of tradies (particularly sparkies) there are a lot of them beating the feet with CVs at the moment. :sad:
Hundreds of Victorian electrical workers lose jobs following Hastie Group collapse | News.com.au
Qld companies salvage some Hastie jobs | News | Business Spectator
There are plenty of other articles.

The administrators stood down 2700 workers, of whom at least half are based in Victoria, after suspending 33 of Hastie's Australian mechanical, electrical and plumbing operations.
Surely some of them would be suitable for the Pilbara mining operation and be happy to move or FIFO.


The myth of the good government whose message just isn't getting through seems to be clung to by many in the ALP.
FWIW (been wrong before :}) I think some of them don't get it and are living in lollipop land, and a growing number do get it but are talking it up as best they can. I don't blame them for that; that's politics. The Qld ALP ran a last ditch campaign that could be summarised as 'we suck, we know we're gonna lose but don't hand the LNP a huge majority.' The polls demonstrated that it didn't work, and the word on the street from the former faithful was 'look, they've given up.' Admitting defeat didn't win votes and IMO actually cost them a few. Either way, I don't think we'll see a repeat from either side in the near future, so expect more 'we're just misunderstood' bleating.

...gliding capabilities of the Washington Monument.
Gold. :ok:

CoodaShooda 29th May 2012 11:45

I note that the ABC is silent on the Essential Media and Roy Morgan polls, both of which are out of step with Newspoll.

Morgan goes as far to rate them L-NP 61.5% to labor 38.5% 2PP


Have to admit, the current headline in the Australian regarding the expulsion of Syrian diplomats did not have me thinking of the poor people of Syria. :O

Instead, my warped mind had me recalling the episode of Yes Prime Minister where the expulsion of 76 Soviet diplomats was the standard ploy for distracting attention from embarrassing government actions.

Worrals in the wilds 29th May 2012 12:28

The only poll that counts is the one people put money on....:E
http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/...3/14-3668.html
Come in, Spinner! :}

Buster Hyman 29th May 2012 12:38

Its funny Cooda, I was watching Yes Minister the other night & thinking, "Gee, I wonder if people are watching this & then comparing it to the next days' headlines?" :p

Like This - Do That 29th May 2012 14:13


Originally Posted by Worrals
The Qld ALP ran a last ditch campaign that could be summarised as 'we suck, we know we're gonna lose but don't hand the LNP a huge majority.'

I never could understand that ... Qld's a unicameral parliament. Surely a majority of 3 is as good (or bad) as a majority of 30 :confused:

hellsbrink 29th May 2012 14:57


Surely a majority of 3 is as good (or bad) as a majority of 30
You could easily lose your majority of 3 through "natural loss" (death, invalidity, getting caught using a government credit card on hookers of either, or both, sex, etc) whereas you won't lose a majority of 30 so easily if you are even vaguely competent.


Also, the higher the majority, the heavier the defeat you have handed out. Can mean a lot in the psychological wars that then follow (and the opposite for the party that lost the most. Heads go down).

Of course, too large a majority can be a bad thing due to the "power" it instils due to nobody else being able to tell the majority that they are as mad as a bag of cats. Just look at the UK after Bliar's lot got in with a thumping majority in Parliament in 1997.

parabellum 29th May 2012 21:40

With Queensland the exception, the problem is that even when a 'government' like the present one gets booted out the real baddies still remain, Gillard, Rudd, Shorten etc are hardly likely to lose their seats.

Worrals in the wilds 29th May 2012 21:53


I never could understand that ... Qld's a unicameral parliament. Surely a majority of 3 is as good (or bad) as a majority of 30 http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/confused.gif
It was a lousy campaign all round, but I suppose the logic is that even if you're going to lose every time the government puts something up, you'll have more MPs to make a noise, both in parliament and the media. The seven Qld ALP MPs are struggling to cover even the basic portfolios.
You are also in a stronger position to win the following election.

With Queensland the exception, the problem is that even when a 'government' like the present one gets booted out the real baddies still remain, Gillard, Rudd, Shorten etc are hardly likely to lose their seats.
They said that about Howard. :E However, as a general rule you're right. Apparently Swan is looking a bit shaky, though I'll believe it when I see it.

Andu 29th May 2012 23:56

On the ABC news this morning, a report that an average of 9900 eligible voters are not registered in each federal electorate. (Where - and FFS how?? - do they get these figures???) ...and so of course, the AEC is spending multi millions of dollars with a post out (ours arrived yesterday) to every Australian household urging people who have not registered to vote to do so.

The cynic in me sees this as an attempt by Labor to garner a few more votes, for surely, anyone who hasn't bothered to register is as unlikely to be showing any interest in the political situation and therefore, is more likely to vote like Dad did or for whichever Party is dishing out the most generous handouts.

I think if either Party came up with a policy dropping the compulsory voting provision, they'd gain an instant 10% or more swing.

mmciau 30th May 2012 00:42

Andu - yes, all the boat people haven't registered yet!!!!


Mike

MattGray 30th May 2012 03:04


Have to admit, the current headline in the Australian regarding the expulsion of Syrian diplomats did not have me thinking of the poor people of Syria.

Instead, my warped mind had me recalling the episode of Yes Prime Minister where the expulsion of 76 Soviet diplomats was the standard ploy for distracting attention from embarrassing government actions.

Its funny Cooda, I was watching Yes Minister the other night & thinking, "Gee, I wonder if people are watching this & then comparing it to the next days' headlines?"
Oh, without a shadow of a doubt - well spotted. :ok:

And how devilishly clever of the Gillard Government to instantly galvanize and mobilise so many other governments right around the world to also participate in their cunning plan.


More countries have now followed Canberra's lead in expelling Syrian diplomats over last week's killing of more than 100 people in the Syrian town, which has been blamed on Syrian troops or pro-Assad regime militiamen.

In a co-ordinated move, the US, Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Bulgaria also kicked out Syrian diplomats overnight.
:rolleyes:

Worrals in the wilds 30th May 2012 03:23

I think Creampuff deserves a medal for post number 2, and yes; it applies to both sides. :D
http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-general-a...ml#post7214839

MattGray 30th May 2012 04:03

Yes Worrals, some wise words from Creampuff. :ok:


The second, more insidious, issue is that there are very few people left in politics who actually know anything about anything of substance.
Not only that - but few, at least on the Liberal side, seem to understand much about politics either

Witness today the unedifying spectacle of Pyne and Abbott doing a runner, scuttling crablike for the exit doors of the Chamber when it fizzed on them that the Member for Dobell was voting with them.
Looking Prime Ministerial?? :}
For weeks Abbott has been piously declaring he would refuse Thomson's "tainted" vote. But as the Deputy Speaker made clear the clueless Abbott has no say in deciding where any member's vote may be directed.

Buster Hyman 30th May 2012 05:21

I'll see your "Abbott running for the door to avoid having anything to do with Thomson", and raise you this...

http://images.smh.com.au/2012/01/26/...2329-420x0.jpg

Which of the above looks Prime Ministerial???? :}

Worrals in the wilds 30th May 2012 06:04

The dude with the riot shield, if he's going to be handing out ALP HTV cards in Queensland. :ooh:
I agree that the running man effort was pretty lame.

Andu 30th May 2012 08:44

Only 44 (as reported on the radio) on today's scheduled service to the Promised Land.

It hardly rated a mention in the MSM.

AFP intercepts asylum seeker boat | thetelegraph.com.au



AFP intercepts asylum seeker boat

AAP
May 30, 20124:42PM

A SUSPECTED asylum seeker boat has been intercepted off Australia's north-west coast.

Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare said initial indications from the Australian Federal Police suggest 40 people were on board when it was intercepted off the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.

The passengers will be transferred to Christmas Island for initial security, health and identity checks, and to establish their reason for travelling.


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