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parabellum 24th May 2012 02:41

Well, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I was expecting there to be a 'lady' who was in the hands of the Australian equivalent of Max Clifford and they were simply waiting for the price to be right, too much of a golden opportunity for Lady of the Night to make a fortune and possibly give up the 'game'? Maybe he has a distinctive birth mark?!;)

(Very good case for insisting that one's assignation for the evening can't speak a word of English and wears thick pebble lense glasses!:E).

parabellum 24th May 2012 02:46

Thanks Worrals, wish I had intended it, bloody spell check!:O

RJM 24th May 2012 07:03

Very good case for insisting that one's assignation for the evening can't speak a word of English and wears thick pebble lense glasses!
All very well for those with mere normal endowment... :E

Worrals in the wilds 24th May 2012 09:03

So which union covers sex workers?
Of course the LHMU (now United Voice) is fondly known as the Lickers' Union...:}

parabellum 24th May 2012 12:43

Actually $60,000 doesn't sound like enough to persuade a Lady of the Night to give up the 'Game', which leads me to think the professional publicists don't think this story has much further to run?

RJM Low Blow, who gave you access to my personal docus. anyway!?;)

hellsbrink 24th May 2012 16:39

Actually $60,000 doesn't sound like enough to persuade a Lady of the Night to give up the 'Game', which leads me to think the professional publicists don't think this story has much further to run?
Well, it's hardly an "exclusive" now so the value compared to her calling the press and saying "Guess who's been my best customer for X months" will have dropped considerably and I doubt she would be "giving up the game" either way.

She's just an anecdote, something else for the knucklescrapers to wibble about ("Would you, I wouldn't", "Wha! She's a fugly", etc, etc. Ain't seen pics of her so there may be a chance that the ones with hairs on the palms of their hands are saying something different) while the slow train crash we are watching grinds to it's inevitable end.

She's like a birthday candle on a cake, you know why it's appeared but it means nothing to you because you just want the bit under it. And it's the same with Thomson, y'all know he was boinking hookers (was that ever actually denied? Or was only the use of the visa card in the brothel denied?) so what she says means as much as the candle.

Andu 24th May 2012 21:02

Defence cuts a ‘threat’ to US alliance

The nation’s top defence analysts warn that the Gillard government’s deep cuts are threatening the future of the United States alliance and Australia’s status as a middle power.

The warnings come in response to a report by the leading defence think tank, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, which calculates that Labor has cut, deferred or avoided spending of almost $25 billion on defence since 2009, creating an “unsustainable mess’’ in the defence budget.

The savings measures, revealed in a 300-page analysis by budget specialist Mark Thomson, are far deeper than acknowledged by Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Defence Minister Stephen Smith, and have made it impossible to implement the 2009 defence white paper, which set out the government’s strategy.

The budget this month contained $5.5 billion in cuts over four years, a 10.5 per cent cut that is the biggest in percentage terms since the Korean War drawdown in 1953.
Meanwhile, Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

LABOR will fast-track the migration applications of wealthy businesspeople prepared to invest at least $5 million in Australia to address shortages of skills and capital and boost job-creation.
And in a deliberate move to better align migration with economic development, the Gillard government is also planning a shake-up of its business skills visa program to give preference to applicants who can demonstrate a history of business innovation.
”... to give preference to applicants who can demonstrate a history of business innovation.” Does that mean we’re about to see a rush of noveau riche Indonesians who’ve proven themselves to be very innovative in the field of international maritime passenger transport?

Worrals in the wilds 24th May 2012 22:51

The Libs also used to give preference to wealthy immigrants, particularly while Ruddock was Immigration Minister. They just didn't talk about it. :suspect:

You must admit the aforementined maritime Indons are innovative...:}

Buster Hyman 25th May 2012 01:04

An interesting parallel Worrals. Ruddocks plan brought the people and their wealth to Oz as proper immigrants, whereas the "wealthy" boat people's money ends up in people smugglers hands...(I use the term wealthy in the sense that they were able to pay the smugglers) Might have to ponder that one a little more. :confused:

Worrals in the wilds 25th May 2012 01:39

Some of the wealthy immigrants' money was also rumoured to be ending up in people's hands rather than the government coffers.
I don't have a problem with preference being given to successful candidates, but IMO Buy A Visa schemes are not on.

I agree that people smuggling is a commercial racket brought about by the government's inaction. While there's a buck in it (or a rupiah) there'll be people smugglers.

CoodaShooda 25th May 2012 02:49

But would those with money really want to come to a country whose government has declared war on middle and high income earners and whose policies seek to redistribute wealth to the "entitled" class?

Andu 25th May 2012 04:17

The very same comment was made at our house, cooda.

The **unique** Gillard enticement to foreign multi millionaires: "Brying yer milliyons to Awstraylia and allow me to rip them off yer and redistribute them to the feckless the lazy, and the uninvited immigrants, who, unlike yerselves, have been allowed in for free to partake of generous guvvinmint handouts fer life." Like many if not every policy this misnamed government has touted, not a lot of thought seem to have gone into it.

Speaking of policies not thought through before they are announced: wharfies (and I can only assume, serving Customs officers) are to be denied security clearances based upon suspicion that they might be involved in organised crime? Can you imagine the lawsuits? And who will have to pay the multi squillion dollars compensation claims that will be made by dismissed wharfies - represented by lawyers you can guarantee will be paid for by Legal Aid? the taxpayer.

Is this misbegotten excuse for a government so cynical that, knowing they're facing certain political defeat, they're setting in place a succession of measures they know will send their successor government broke?

Cunning_Stunt 25th May 2012 06:07

Which union covers sex workers? The one run by Sir Les Patterson, the ACUNT I believe he called it. Obviously an affiliate of the ACTU

Worrals in the wilds 25th May 2012 06:54

Works for me. :E

Clare Prop 25th May 2012 08:28

If there was a way to get Sir Les for PM I'd vote for him!

Meanwhile how much more of this "poor diddums" stuff do we have to put up with over Craig Thomson. He is learning the terrible lesson that actions have consequences, perhaps something his career in the Unions/ALP so far has shielded him from. :ugh::ugh:

Andu 25th May 2012 22:57

As a right wing bourgeois conservative reactionary, I'm outraged at the very thought of this. When you strip away all the modern day PC bullsh1t, this is what brought about the White Australia Policy 130 years ago - the totally understandable desire (even from my right wing reactionary perspective) of Australian working class men to prevent employers from importing cheap coolie labour to work for coolie wages under coolie conditions. (With no apologies for the inclusion of the 'coolie' word, for that word accurately describes what's being done here.)

What is it with Chris Bowen? Can a man who has reached Ministerial rank, even in this ridiculous excuse for a government, really be as hopeless and hapless as he appears to be at every step? I didn't think he could mishandle anything worse than he's mishandled (and continues to mishandle) the boat people invasion, but with this, he's gutted his own power base to the quick.

I find myself in the unusual situation today of agreeing wholeheartedly with Paul Howes and Doug Cameron.

Labor can't run class war as Rinehart deal unfuriates unions

by: Sid Maher and Joe Kelly
From:The Australian
May 26, 201212:00AM

IMMIGRATION Minister Chris Bowen has infuriated Julia Gillard and the nation's most powerful union leaders after granting Gina Rinehart, the world's richest woman, the right to import 1700 foreign workers for a massive West Australian iron ore project.

The scathing reaction from the unions over the decision to favour the mining magnate - while the government conducts a class war campaign against mining billionaires and vested interests to sell its "working families" budget - has exposed new divisions in the cabinet amid growing concerns about Julia Gillard's leadership.

Worrals in the wilds 25th May 2012 23:49

It'll be Qantas LAMEs next. :(

allan907 26th May 2012 01:23

Don't forget that it was Chris Bowen who was one of Krudd's most vocal supporters during the recent Labor civil war.

Maybe it's his way of destabilising Gillard - as if any more destabilisation was needed!

Buster Hyman 26th May 2012 01:50

This party has previous form in the Aviation industry...

CoodaShooda 26th May 2012 01:59

Even in a market as small as the NT, we still have to bring in 457 workers; simply for trades such as mech elec, metal fabrication and tiling.

It's not that we won't employ locals, it's just that you can't get them.

Business owners are going all over the world trying to find qualified staff; with England/Ireland being as popular with them as S-E Asia.

When you hear stories about FIFO workers being poached by other mining companies while waiting for their flights at Perth Airport and look at the overall numbers of staff being needed for the mining developments and factor in the low unemployment rate and that a lot of Australians don't want to work in the harsher climes; the need to source offshore labour becomes clearer.

I'd be interested to know how many will be employed on Rinehart's project.

(Ok, got it -
During construction, the workforce will peak at 3500 people and it will have an operational manning of over 1600 personnel.

So they've got approval to source up to 48.5% of the construction workforce from overseas.)

As to Bowen destabilising Gillard, I note that she claims that she was not aware of the approval before it was made, while Bowen's office says her office was kept in the loop during the deliberation and appoval processes.

Hmm, who to believe? :E

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