PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Jet Blast (https://www.pprune.org/jet-blast-16/)
-   -   War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original (https://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/477678-war-australia-any-oz-politics-original.html)

500N 4th Mar 2014 07:44

I see the drug mule tried to commit suicide by lunging for as knife.
Her family and the parole officer stopped her.

I reckon she is goooonnneee.

CoodaShooda 4th Mar 2014 07:58

SOPS
The structural issues with the patrol boats were well known during the HMAS Taxi years and have been previously mentioned here.

The media wasn't interested in the story then but is now only too happy to jump at it.

Just to give greater emphasis in bringing the problems to the attention of the people smugglers, ABC News has rebadged them as Border Patrol Vessels rather than Naval Patrol Boats.

SOPS 4th Mar 2014 08:09

Thanks for that Cooda. I must have missed previous discussions. I also missed the ALPBC subtle rename of the vessels:ok:

Worrals in the wilds 4th Mar 2014 10:37


Worrals, I've been saying for ages that Joyce is still in place after what looks like five years of repeated disasters because he's actually doing quite well at what he's really been employed by the Qantas Board to do - to gut Qantas down to as small a 'rump/core' as possible, meanwhile forcing more and more of the heavily unionised (and in the Board's eyes) far too well paid staff either out completely or into 'lean and mean' Jetstar-style contracts.
How did Red Q fit in with the plan? Or the parked jets in Hong Kong and the jailed execs in Vietnam? Were any of those good business decisions? :confused:

How about the grounding of the fleet, incoveniencing thousands of Australians? Was part of the plan alienating the public or was that just accidental?

After discussion with a friend today :suspect::} I agree with you that Joyce was most likely brought in as a toe-cutter. The question is whether he's been very good at it, and I think the answer is a clear No. Qantas has become a very public basket case, the share price has plummeted and apparently they've lost a bunch of money. I say apparently, because Qantas Economics is probably worthy of its own university course :hmm:.

If they wanted to alienate the public, air their dirty IR linen in public, drive down the share price and basically look really dumb (while still hanging onto all those pesky workers :zzz:, because they're still there) then yes, Joyce has done what the board wanted him to.

If they didn't want to do all that, then no, he hasn't done what they wanted and he shouldn't be there. If that is what they wanted, then why? What's the real agenda?? :suspect::suspect: Who benefits if Qantas goes broke?

MTOW 4th Mar 2014 10:42

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
All our discussions here.could rather rapidly become very small cheese if just one Ukrainian or one Russian hothead lets loose with his assault rifle. I really don't think anyone wants to see the sorry mess over there go in any way 'hot', but if it does, I suspect we'll feel some effects as far away as here.

500N 4th Mar 2014 10:47

"All our discussions here.could rather rapidly become very small cheese if just one Ukrainian or one Russian hothead lets loose with his assault rifle."


Only if you think about the Ukraine

As Putin said about Australia, "I've heard of Australia but I don't think about it".

rh200 4th Mar 2014 10:57


ll our discussions here.could rather rapidly become very small cheese if just one Ukrainian or one Russian hothead lets loose with his assault rifle
Actually I keep think about the surrounded Ukrainians in there bases, they seem to be holding up well from the limited information we get.


As Putin said about Australia, "I've heard of Australia but I don't think about it".
Oh I bet he does, it would go something like him licking his chops and wishing it was on one of his borders. I'm sure there's a couple of Russians speakers here that are in danger of having the rights trodden on:E

Fliegenmong 4th Mar 2014 11:09

WITW What's the real agenda?? Who benefits if Qantas goes broke?

Why of course the big end of town benefits Worrals!!....Something uttered about 'Too big to fail', and all that, losses become public, profits go private., Leigh Clifford, Alan Joyce, Tony Abbott, Joe Hockey, Eric Abetz et all giggle into their champagne in Leigh's private club

It is a disgraceful situation, perpetuated by both sides, justified here by those who support TA, cried down for the same thing by those who don't support TA and vice versa....nothing but short term populist politics from both sides, regrettably they reflect a disengaged electorate...:sad:

SOPS 4th Mar 2014 15:32

Why do I do it to myself? Checked into the hotel, and thought, just will checkout PM. And what do I hear?, some huggy telling us all that unless we all live in tents and eat lentils by this time next year, the ocean will rise and Australia will be gone by 2030...that's what his computer tells him.

Of course, the Greens got a say, to point out, unless you are growing enough bamboo to feed your next door neighbours panda, your house will be flooded by next Sunday.

Was there any input asked from the " other" side? Of course not. We can't let the story go off message...can we.

500N 4th Mar 2014 15:37

SOPS

When I turned on the TV at my GF's tonight's on whatever channel it was,
something similar was on. A very quick change of channel occurred.
They are that "off the planet" I have even given up listening to them.

Captain Sand Dune 4th Mar 2014 19:55

Well then, TA's speech in Tasmania re logging will give them conniptions !

From today’s West Strayan:

Former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has dispatched himself on a one-man peace mission to Moscow as all-out war looms between Russia and Ukraine. The West Australian can reveal that Mr Rudd arrived in the Russian capital on Monday with plans to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin's top advisers. It is also believed that Mr Rudd plans to go to the Ukrainian capital of Kiev this month to attend a "conference", although senior Australian diplomatic officials are baffled, saying they are unaware of any major event scheduled in the battle-scarred city.
Mr Rudd's surprise intervention in the crisis comes amid suggestions the Queenslander has been travelling the globe almost non-stop since the election, lobbying world leaders in a bid to win a senior job at the United Nations.
Mr Rudd contacted the Australian Embassy in Moscow this week, asking that he be picked up at the airport. He asked Australian diplomats to organise a meeting with Mr Putin's foreign affairs adviser.
It is unclear what priority Mr Rudd's visit has been given by Russian officials.
Diplomats suspect the former PM is attempting to "deal himself" into the crisis as a self-appointed special envoy. Mr Rudd's spokeswoman said his trip to Moscow was planned more than a month ago and "not connected with recent developments in Ukraine".
"As everybody knows, Mr Rudd is engaged in a Harvard Kennedy School Project on China's future role in the global order," his spokeswoman said. "Mr Rudd is meeting with think tanks and other officials in Europe including the UK and Russia on this and broader foreign policy interests."
The West Australian revealed this year that in the three months after the Federal election, Mr Rudd was overseas for almost 60 days. During that period he travelled to Beijing four times and flew to London, New York, Paris, Boston, Washington and Bahrain. One of Mr Rudd's most high-profile trips was in October last year when he met French President Francois Hollande and his Foreign Affairs Minister Laurent Fabius in Paris. The meeting was organised by local Australian diplomats at Mr Rudd's request.
Australian missions overseas are obliged to facilitate visits by former prime ministers. Long-standing guidelines say car transport should be provided only when the former PM is travelling on official business and should not be for commercial purposes. Australian diplomats are normally required to meet the former PM at the airport and help with transfers and ground transport.
Though Australian officials help organise the meetings for Mr Rudd, they are usually excluded from the talks. Australian foreign affairs experts believe Mr Rudd has his heart set on the UN's top job - secretary-general. But any designs Mr Rudd might have on a job at a humanitarian body such as the UNHCR are likely to be thwarted by his role in expanding detention centres on Manus Island - a move that brought condemnation from the international community.
The man’s ego is breathtaking! Clearly he still believes himself to be a ‘player’.
Mr Putin can save everyone a whole lot of embarrassment and ignore this deluded fool who no longer represents Australia.

MTOW 4th Mar 2014 20:30

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
I kept stopping as I read that article out to my wife saying "This has to be a pisstake" and was gobsmacked when I reached the end and found it was not. If Krudd gets a job as a janitor in the UN, let alone at Sec Gen, that organisation will lose what little credibility it still has. I feel for the poor bloody diplomats who have to endure his odious presence when he visits on these flights of fancy.

MTOW 4th Mar 2014 20:32

War in Australia (any Oz Politics)
 
... That should have read "flights of fantasy".

500N 4th Mar 2014 20:33

That article sums up KRudd to a tee.

"Diplomats suspect the former PM is attempting to "deal himself" into the crisis as a self-appointed special envoy."

"Australian foreign affairs experts believe Mr Rudd has his heart set on the UN's top job - secretary-general."

Captain Sand Dune 4th Mar 2014 20:46

I'd like to see him hassle a Russian flight attendant:E

Meanwhile on Sunrise they're tackling the big issues, ie fawning over Katie Perry..............:hmm:

Think I'll take the dog for a walk.

Worrals in the wilds 4th Mar 2014 22:35


I kept stopping as I read that article out to my wife saying "This has to be a pisstake" and was gobsmacked when I reached the end and found it was not.
Same. :ooh: I'm not usually a fan of by-elections but in Griffith's case I'll make an exception; if it's true then the man's delusional. Of course it is mostly suggestion; all that's been confirmed is that the Ruddster's off to Russia.

CSD agree re Sunrise. About ten years ago it was a decent morning news program, but these days...:ugh: Anyway, I stopped watching when the network heavies decided that Melissa Doyle was too old for Sunrise. I figured if that's the case, so am I.

John Hill 4th Mar 2014 22:39

Sorry Mr Rudd but the word is the next UN Secretary General will be Helen Clark

Will Helen Clark be the first woman to run the UN? | Life and style | The Guardian

Captain Sand Dune 4th Mar 2014 22:52


Sorry Mr Rudd but the word is the next UN Secretary General will be Helen Clark
Well she's got more balls than Rudd.:E


Anyway, I stopped watching when the network heavies decided that Melissa Doyle was too old for Sunrise. I figured if that's the case, so am I.
In which case, what's 'Kochie' doing there? Quite cringe-worthy watching him with that great musician (that's sarcasm, by the way) Katy Perry. No, he really didn't look out of place among all those screaming teenage girls.:hmm: (more sarcasm!)

Worrals in the wilds 4th Mar 2014 23:16

I know. That's why I got so cranky about it. :rolleyes:
Personally I think Lilly Allen is a lot more fun than Katy Perry, but that's just me. :}

500N 4th Mar 2014 23:21

Tony Abbott is certainly serving it up to the Greens with his latest speech
and good on what he said.

"No more national parks as Tony Abbott pledges to support loggers as the 'ultimate conservationists'



All times are GMT. The time now is 15:09.


Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.