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Andu 16th May 2012 00:31

Worrals, you've just destroyed my mental image of you. I've imagined your aural tones to be a younger version of Quentin Bryce. Maybe Margaret Throsby?

But now I find you're multilingual. You speak Bogan as well as Classic Strine.

(And since you're from Queensland, should that be Bogan eh?)

Worrals in the wilds 16th May 2012 01:13


But now I find you're multilingual. You speak Bogan as well as Classic Strine.
Correct. ;) I can do posh too, not for extended periods, but. (another Queensland idiom)
The inappropriate phrases always seem to leach out at the wrong moments. :ouch:

My ever wise mother once observed that it was strange how in the 1950s everyone tried to sound more sophisticated than they were; but by the 1980s everyone was trying to sound less sophisticated than they were. She used the Packers as an example, apparently Kerry had a much broader accent than his old man. It's not strictly true, but certainly applies to a lot of people...
Of course it may be that the Australian accent is simply getting stronger.

Clare Prop 16th May 2012 06:03

Just go to youtube and search for Hitler Julia Gillard, there's plenty but not with her voice! Can you imagine it with a German accent?
I'd rather run my nails down a blackboard...



Worrals in the wilds 16th May 2012 08:14

Hockey won't rule out accepting Thomson's vote
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Bet Tone wants to kill him...again.
He really needs to keep Hockey away from microphones, public gatherings and people with notebooks. :}

eagle 86 17th May 2012 01:29

I think it was tongue in cheek!
GAGS
E86

parabellum 17th May 2012 02:03

Agree with you eagle, saw it on TV, a question was mischievously asked and Joe burst out laughing and said "under the circumstances it would be difficult to refuse", laughter all round

Worrals in the wilds 17th May 2012 02:08

Yeah? I saw the clip on 10 and thought he was serious, actually. I didn't hear the crowd laughing so maybe that clarified it.

eagle 86 17th May 2012 05:17

JH said, with large smile,"that would require CT to have a sudden vision of clarity" or words to that effect. I think JH, and I certainly agree with him, thinks that scenario is very unlikely. BUT they are pollies and of course the Libs would take his vote particularly if juliar et al were rolled as a result. Shoot now cover your tracks later!!
GAGS
E86

CoodaShooda 17th May 2012 07:02


He really needs to keep Hockey away from microphones, public gatherings and people with notebooks.
And journalists looking to make news rather than report it.........oops, that's 95% of them. :ugh:

bob johns 17th May 2012 14:26

bob johns
 
Quite a few people in our parliament ,(or their wives ) have Mega-Bucks! ie Turnbull ---Hockey --and our little Aussie Battler ,.Krudd--between them (and how many more snout in the trough corrupt scumbags who have enriched themselves) could clean up the deficit all by themselves, if their till was cleaned out? Big Question for me is ,that when you have got so much money, then what is left ? ---Power ? Ego (did hear that one very ,cashed up prominent republican had the coin design --father of the republic --already to go in 99 when he got his arse kicked by the electorate) Power is probably what is their motive ,and to hell with the rest of us. An election ASAP and The new boss to have an electoral cleansing soonest!!

bob johns 17th May 2012 14:40

bob johns
 
Further to my recent post-- Bob Menzies,our longest ,serving and probably most effective Prime Minister to date ,when he died was in a rented house ., by no means poor , but not mega rich as some of the more recent retiree PM s(all on the left of centre) Make of that what you will .

MattGray 18th May 2012 04:38


bob johns
Further to my recent post-- Bob Menzies,our longest ,serving and probably most effective Prime Minister to date ,when he died was in a rented house ., by no means poor , but not mega rich as some of the more recent retiree PM s(all on the left of centre) Make of that what you will .
What I make of it bob is that after Menzies seventeen rent-free years with his snout deep in the public purse it speaks volumes about Liberals and their inability to properly handle finances. The pathetic responses of both Abbott and Hockey to the recent Federal budget provide little hope that anything has improved in that regard.

Meanwhile in the real world where results count for more than ideologically driven opinions, Australia’s fiscal discipline under PM Gillard, Swan and Wong, get a big tick as demonstrated in our unprecedented AAA credit rating from all three major international ratings agencies.

Unprecedented, because it is something that the Liberals have never been able to achieve, not even through the so-called Howard-Costello golden years.

parabellum 18th May 2012 05:26

A triple A rating? Wow, how impressive!

The Liberals handed over a genuine budget surplus and no significant debt yet in five short years the ALP are unable to produce a budget surplus, have plundered all reserves and run up huge debts whilst businesses are closing left right and centre and workers are being laid off in their hundreds, Gillard, Swan and Wong must be really proud of their triple A efforts.

If it wasn't for the mining industry, which continues to flourish, despite the efforts of Gillard, Swan and Wong, the Australian economy would be no better than many in Europe.

Buster Hyman 18th May 2012 06:36

Poor Matt. He is totally convinced by the ALP's Newspeak. Double Plus good eh Matt?

I just had a quick look at Standard & Poor. They removed Australia's AAA rating in 1986 & restored it 17 years later...I'll wait while you grab a calculator to work out who was in power 17 years after it dropped... dum-de-dum-de-dah-de-dah-dah...(think music)...:ooh:

They'd dropped us from AAA to AA in 1986...don't turn that calculator off Matt. Who was in power in 1986?

But, at the end of the day, AAA rating is good news. It gives all those people heading down to Centrelink something to cheer about. :rolleyes:

MattGray 18th May 2012 06:59


Poor Matt. He is totally convinced by the ALP's Newspeak. Double Plus good eh Matt?

I just had a quick look at Standard & Poor. They removed Australia's AAA rating in 1986 & restored it 17 years later...I'll wait while you grab a calculator to work out who was in power 17 years after it dropped... dum-de-dum-de-dah-de-dah-dah...(think music)...http://www.pprune.org/index.php?q=aH...I1LmdpZg%3D%3D

They'd dropped us from AAA to AA in 1986...don't turn that calculator off Matt. Who was in power in 1986?
:confused::confused::confused:

Let me repeat -
[QUOTE]Meanwhile in the real world where results count for more than ideologically driven opinions, Australia’s fiscal discipline under PM Gillard, Swan and Wong, get a big tick as demonstrated in our unprecedented AAA credit rating from all three major international ratings agencies.[/QUOTE]

Get it now Buster??

Andu 18th May 2012 07:12

Meanwhile, the 9th boat in 10 days arrived yesterday - and apparently, more than a few of the recent arrivals are having a second bite of the cherry.

Rejected refugees get back on boats for another go | thetelegraph.com.au


ASYLUM seekers rejected after arriving by boat a decade ago are boarding vessels and coming back to Australia in the latest surge of arrivals.

One man even made his second dangerous sea journey with his 11-year-old son, while two changed their names for their second voyage in a bid to dupe immigration officials.

Despite the majority having had asylum claims rejected twice, most are asking for multiple appeals and several have taken their cases unsuccessfully to the High Court. Immigration reports tabled in parliament by the ombudsman show 11 cases where asylum seekers have come by boat twice and had their cases reviewed because of the length of time spent in detention.

The number is almost certainly higher but the government does not keep statistics on people who arrive by boat multiple times.

Seven of the 11 were rejected both times. Only one was granted protection both times.

Others were allowed to stay in Australia only after appealing against having their latest claims for asylum rejected.

The first journeys occurred between October 1999 and June 2001 - before the Howard government's Pacific Solution stemmed boat arrivals. The men's return voyages started in 2009, months after Labor ended the offshore processing regime.

One 26-year-old who first came to Australia in December 2000 and again in February 2010, used different names and had four asylum claims rejected. He told the ombudsman: "Why would I go through all of this again if I was not in danger in my home country?"

A 43-year-old Pakistani man had a temporary protection visa cancelled after his first arrival in 1999 after giving false information.

He was rejected again after returning in September 2009. He unsuccessfully appealed to the High Court and through the multiple review channels available to asylum seekers.

A 47-year-old father who returned to Australia with his son in October 2009, eight years after first coming in June 2001, made unsuccessful appeals to the Merits Review panel and the Federal Magistrates Court.

Another father with three children was granted a temporary protection visa in 1999, left Australia and applied for asylum for his family in 2007, then returned by boat in February 2010 after his family claim was rejected.

He was found not to be a refugee after his second boat arrival.

Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison claimed the government's policies were "an invitation for double dipping" with the second claims undermining the integrity of Australia's refugee claims process. "The system is being gamed with recycled claims that undermine the integrity of the program," he said.

"This abuse of the system distracts attention and resources from genuine claims that deserve attention."

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen's spokesman blamed the opposition for boat arrivals after the collapse of its people swap deal with Malaysia which was scuttled by the High Court last year.

"As the Minister has said countless times, without a genuine deterrent such as the Malaysia Arrangement boats will continue arrive. But without legislation, there is no legal basis for offshore processing, whether it be in Malaysia or Nauru," he said.

JB Mods 18th May 2012 18:27

OK folks, some of you are sliding back into the old days method of debate, where you niggle and snipe and try to get reactions that will get someone else banned.

If it continues, the thread will be closed, so keep yourselves in order and also stop the whining about others.

MTOW 19th May 2012 01:36

There are some clever people out there (or perhaps people with too much spare time on their hands). This morning, there was a letter in the paper quoting the Book of Proverbs: "Better to spend time in the wilderness than to live with a contentious woman." :)

Worrals in the wilds 19th May 2012 04:33

Does that mean they're voting Green? :eek::}

MattGray 19th May 2012 04:49





Priceless! :D

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