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CoodaShooda 15th Nov 2013 00:02


I understand VicPol have confirmed they are enquiring into the complaint.

Regardless of whether there is any substance to the allegation, it saddens me that society has lost the old principle of "innocent until proven guilty".

We have become French. :E

Andu 15th Nov 2013 00:19

Major coffee spillage, narrowly missing my keyboard, when I read the following on the Tim Blair blog, and loud hilarity in whole household when I read it out.

“Anthony Mundine is Australia’s greatest and most revered sports star,” said one mystified officer, speaking on condition of anonymity. “Who on earth would ever want to do him any harm?”

Some authorities believe that the attack on Mundine’s business may have been the result of a simple mistake. “Perhaps the bomber meant to burn down the crèche at the end of the street,” said one officer. “Late at night, all of these places look kind of the same.”

Another officer pointed out that a nearby florist was a more likely target of the bomber’s rage. “Mrs Thompson can get pretty curt with customers who ask for daffodils out of season,” he said.

Despite hours of detailed searching, by late yesterday arson squad detectives admitted that they didn’t have a single clue. “We keep coming back to the incentive issue,” one said. “It’s unbelievable that anyone would intentionally damage a business owned by Anthony Mundine, the universally adored boxing and rugby league icon.”

Worrals in the wilds 15th Nov 2013 01:49

That is funny, though I do feel sorry for him.

Regardless of whether there is any substance to the allegation, it saddens me that society has lost the old principle of "innocent until proven guilty".
I agree. I also think it's a heck of a long time to wait before making a complaint.

CoodaShooda 15th Nov 2013 02:21

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

bosnich71 15th Nov 2013 03:36

500N .... "here I am sitting in my house in Werribee ....... all I can hear is the type of stuff you hear from a mosque".

I'd stay indoors if I was you. The various factions of mosque members seem to be having recognition problems at the moment in Syria.
Members of the Islamic state of Iraq and al-Sham have mistakenly severed the head of a fighter in Syria believing him to be a pro Assad fighter.
The group had misunderstood comments that he made about the Shia founding fathers.
Good thing they weren't 'British' fighters or the Army would have had to court martial them. :oh:

500N 15th Nov 2013 03:39

I was grabbing all my kit and manning the barricades :O
Drones have been launched !!!

Re this "rape"
Has anyone actually named the person involved ?
I couldn't find it on Google.

CoodaShooda 15th Nov 2013 04:03

Check PM's

Andu 15th Nov 2013 04:41

500n, the answer to your question is quite short.

500N 15th Nov 2013 05:03


Cooda solved it. It won't come out in the MSN,
at leats not for 6 months IMHO.

RJM 15th Nov 2013 14:26

Back to the servos for a minute:


Same here re petrol stations, but the one I like to use down the road
gives far better service than when the previous owners had it.

I think they might be Pakistanis but not 100% sure.
I called into a not-very-well-located petrol station, open late and staffed by what appeared to be an Indian husband and wife. I dropped a coin (I pick up dropped coins on principle - I used to stay with an aunt who berated me for using more than one match to light the fire), and was looking around for it when the woman scooted around to my side of the counter, found the coin and handed it to me with a big smile.

Not what you'd expect, especially in one of the big private franchise service stations.

500N 15th Nov 2013 15:36

What amazes me with the lot I described is unlike other service stations,
when a queue exists of 3 - 4 people, they open another register straight away.

It is a pleasure to see good service and that is why they do so well.

SOPS 15th Nov 2013 16:44

Yes they do it well, work hard,come legally, and don't tend to send their kids out with signs suggesting that be heading is a good idea in Australia

500N 15th Nov 2013 16:46


PM sent.

SOPS 15th Nov 2013 16:55

Pm answered :ok:

Andu 15th Nov 2013 20:16

And like the Chinese and Vietnamese, 99% of their kids seem to end up in a profession, thanks in no small part to Mum and Dad sweating blood in a menial occupation to get the kids the best education they possibly can. (As so many of the Greeks and Italians did a generation or two before them.)

A casual observer in Western Sydney or North and South East Melbourne might opine that that does not seem to apply to 99% of the children, particularly the male children, of those 'other' immigrants who get mentioned here all the time - unless re-badging stolen BMWs can be considered a 'profession'.

Worrals in the wilds 15th Nov 2013 21:55

It is a pleasure to see good service and that is why they do so well.
Indians are great at customer service; I've been to India and nothing is too much trouble, even in a little place. We're so used to lousy customer service here that what they'd consider 'normal' is absolutely five star to us.

Yes they do it well, work hard,come legally, and don't tend to send their kids out with signs suggesting that be heading is a good idea in Australia
True, and that's despite coming from a very conservative culture and a completely different religion. Australia must be an enormous shock to new immigrants from India, but you never hear any of them complaining.

Good luck to them all. :ok:

7x7 16th Nov 2013 01:27

Another entry for the "You Couldn't Make This Up" file.

Foreign prostitutes are demanding the right to work in Australia as "skilled workers" on 457 visas.

The Australian Sex Workers' Association, known as Scarlet Alliance, has called on the federal government to expand the controversial visa to cover foreign prostitutes as skilled workers.

Andu 16th Nov 2013 05:34

OK, I'll accept that this one is so old it has whiskers on it, but with a few minor amendments, I think very few would disagree that it could definitely be said to apply to Australian politics, perhaps particularly the last six years.

A female CNN journalist heard about a very old Jewish man who had been going to the Western Wall to pray, twice a day, every day, for a long, long time.

So she went to check it out. She went to the Western Wall and there he was, walking slowly up to the holy site.

She watched him pray and after about 45 minutes, when he turned to leave, using a cane and moving very slowly, she approached him for an interview.

"Pardon me, sir, I'm Rebecca Smith from CNN. What's your name?

"Morris Feinberg," he replied.

"Sir, how long have you been coming to the Western Wall and praying?"

"For about 60 years."

"60 years! That's amazing! What do you pray for?"

"I pray for peace between the Christians, Jews and the Muslims."

"I pray for all the wars and all the hatred to stop."

"I pray for all our children to grow up safely as responsible adults and to love their fellow man."

"I pray that politicians tell us the truth and put the interests of the people ahead of their own interests."

"How do you feel after doing this for 60 years?"

"Like I'm talking to a f----g brick wall."

Andu 16th Nov 2013 05:56

Hedley Thomas' article in today's 'Australian' about JEG's attempts to muzzle the press while she was PM is causing quite a bit of comment online. Some of the comments on Michael Smith's site are quite long. This one stood out to me.

Kymbo said...
The AWU Reform Association "slush fund" and the role of Slater and Gordon, the young and naive solicitor, the AWU, Thiess Constructions and many others is intriguing and worthy of a proper investigation to determine the extent if any of criminality, corruption or complicity.
Circumstantial evidence presented on this blog and by Hedley Thomas in the Australian indicates that there may have been serious misappropriation of funds and a cover up of monumental proportions.
Let's hope that justice is done.

With all the justified focus on the slush fund, the conveyancing, the missing files and the exit interview, one thing has really worried me.

If Julia Gillard did something wrong and if the AWU, Slater and Gordon and many of her colleagues new that she did that wrong, aren't we entitled to think that the AWU had her over a barrel because of that knowledge and wouldn't any changes to Fair Work and her Industrial relations policy be assumed to be not just because of Union pressure but also because of her compromised position. The AWU could essentially demand what they wanted.

Of course the corollary is that if they knew that she did wrong, then she could also demand their support and if they didn't support her she could bring the Union to its knees. The knifing of Kevin Rudd, fits this conspiracy theory. If this is the case it would be a monumental blow to our democracy and set Australia back 20 years.

If there is guilt, then surely we would have to then assume that the whole 3 years of her Government (and perhaps her period as Deputy PM) may have been substantially compromised.

Under these circumstances one wonders if any Fair Work or Industrial relations legislation introduced during her term, should not be made null and void. I certainly think that Tony Abbott could call a double dissolution of Parliament to reverse the Fair Work Legislation if guilt is proven.

To round this off and assuming only guilt and complicity (both reasonable expectations) then our media will have failed us all. They could no longer claim the honored status as" the third estate". An impartial media would have assumed the same possibility as outlined above and given the enormous gravity of that situation, pressured the Prime Minister to stand down pending an investigation.

Let's hope she did nothing wrong, because it makes me sick that our Country may have been compromised to this extent.
The most important thing you'll read today. Hedley Thomas on our most important freedom. - Michael Smith News

Fliegenmong 16th Nov 2013 09:08

On the subject of muzzling the press....does anyone know what the situation is with the boats?? I posted a while back, to a deafening silence, the Michael Smith guy often quoted here as giving a running commentary on all of it as it unfolded.....is unheard of now??? Who was / is he?

But now we have Scott Morrison, selectively releasing information only as he sees fit, and an ever compliant MSM accepting this....any difficult questions being batted away with a 'Can't comment for operational reasons'.....I can understand that......but by highlighting every detail possible whilst in opposition, effectively Scott was committing a treasonous act whilst in opposition.....don't hold your breath expecting the complaint MSM to ever properly question him! :hmm:

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