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Worrals in the wilds 8th Nov 2013 00:39


Recently went to a night where Bryan Dawe was the guest speaker. I sat down expecting a night of well-balanced, acid political commentary and instead got a pretty-much left-wing diatribe, together with constant references as to how badly done-by he was at school, as if he was the only kid to ever attend a state school, all thinly-veiled with some humour.
How disappointing :(. Like you, I would have thought he'd be good. Some comedians are only effective if they work off a script playing a part; he might be one of those.

I sat down and after his acknowledgement to the 'traditional owners' (that hypocritical lip service always raises my blood pressure),
Isn't it getting trendy :hmm:.
I've seen two decent 'welcome to country speeches'; both by tribal elders. They were genuinely welcoming, informative and very low key. These tokenistic 'acknowledgements' where the speaker 1. isn't Indigenous and has no actual knowledge of the local Indigenous culture, 2. can't pronounce the tribe's name correctly (or forgets a group, Brisbane has two) and stumbles through a pre-prepared speech are just gruesome.

500N 8th Nov 2013 04:21

"These tokenistic 'acknowledgements' where the speaker 1. isn't Indigenous and has no actual knowledge of the local Indigenous culture,"


So true.

SOPS 8th Nov 2013 04:58

Does anyone know what happened to the boat? I hope they left them where they were.

500N 8th Nov 2013 05:03

Morrison wouldn't say and "And when questioned about the incident at the press conference, the operation's commander Angus Campbell repeated three times that he would ''not comment further in relation to on-water matters''.

The media aren't going to like him !!!

MTOW 8th Nov 2013 05:04

Welcome ceremonies and acknowledgement of traditional owners.... the conversation is getting WAY too serious. This has absolutely nothing to do with politics, nor Australia, but I think everyone would agree, these Kiwis have WAAAAY too much time on their hands.


The prankee wife's comment at 6 min 30 sec is pure gold. She should be granted honourary Australian citizenship immediately.

500N 8th Nov 2013 05:06

SOPS

Maybe some of the boats collected from previous trips could be towed behind the Patrol Boats, having had a quick service and refuel and when they find a boat like this, just transfer them to the "new boat", start the engine, lock the steering and point it in the direction of Indonesia.

And of course the engine compartment would be locked so they can't sabotage it and only enough fuel to get to the Indonesian coast.

:ok:

SOPS 8th Nov 2013 05:14

Goog idea 500, I think you should call Tony.:ok:

Worrals in the wilds 8th Nov 2013 07:23


Maybe some of the boats collected from previous trips could be towed behind the Patrol Boats,
I'm a bit out of the loop these days, but from memory not so long ago a lot of the collected boats were burned and scuttled in the interests of public health.

Fleas weren't the half of it...:eek:

...but I think everyone would agree, these Kiwis have WAAAAY too much time on their hands.
A five star effort :ok:. Never leave plumbers, sparkies or computer geeks unattended, even for a minute...:D
P.S. Love his Kiwi safety footwear. It goes so well with the hi-vis overalls. :}

SOPS 8th Nov 2013 08:40

It looks like we may have a stand off on our hands. I think the best policy might be not to answer distress calls from boats coming from Indonesia....harsh I know.

Indonesia says it will not accept rescued asylum seekers Australia has tried to return - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Andu 8th Nov 2013 09:52

My suggestion would be to deliver them en masse to the Indonesian Embassy in Canberra, then seal off the building.

500N 8th Nov 2013 09:54

"I'm a bit out of the loop these days, but from memory not so long ago a lot of the collected boats were burned and scuttled in the interests of public health."

You can say that again. I've seen some of the boats, borers and other nasties.
Burning them is by far the best option.

500N 8th Nov 2013 21:29

OMG !
 
OMG, now we are going to be subject to a TV Drama involving Joolia :{

"Australia's Rachel Griffiths has signed on to portray former prime minister Julia Gillard in a television drama.

It will be based on the book The Stalking of Julia Gillard, by the former Fairfax journalist Kerry-Anne Walsh, and will follow the "media's obsession with the fall and resurrection of Kevin Rudd at Julia Gillard's expense"."

Clare Prop 8th Nov 2013 23:56

How is the fall of Kevin Rudd at Julia's expense? She did pretty nicely out of it for a while, karma came and bit her in the bum and we got our country back. The End.

Meryl Streep as Margaret Thatcher, Rachel Griffiths as Julia Gillard (presumably complete with prosthetic nose) whatever next? Hugh Jackman as John Howard? Alf "Flamin' Galah" from Home and Away would make a good Kevin Rudd.

500N 8th Nov 2013 23:58

No, that Comedian who took off Howard so well would have to play Howard.

parabellum 9th Nov 2013 00:53

So, The Indons say they will 'review' their stance on the stand-off boat but Scott - Morrison steps in and says, for humanitarian reasons, the pax are now to be taken to Christmas Island for processing to Manly Is.

Is that pure capitulation or a bit of clever politics by stopping the Indons from losing face?

Andu 9th Nov 2013 01:22

Who will blink first over the 63 country shoppers? I can't help but think it will be Abbott, if only because our side is already stuck with 'possession of the ball' - i.e., they're on board HMAS Ballarat.

I can't believe that the new government hadn't sent revised orders to all Australian Customs and Naval vessels to avoid a situation like this at all costs. I also find myself asking what in the world an RAN ship was doing so close to the Indonesian coast when we're in the middle of a (thank you, ALPBC and Fairfax press) spying 'scandal'.

Andu 9th Nov 2013 01:28

So from your post, Parabellum, (which I hadn't seen before posting the message above - interrupted before sending by the call to lunch), it would seem Tony Abbott did blink first. The number of boats departing for Christmas Island will now increase exponentially; maybe not quite to the former levels under Rudd and Gillard, but the message will be going out to the country shoppers as I speak - "The new Australian Government of just like the old one. A soft touch."

parabellum 9th Nov 2013 01:59

Andu - I'm an optimist, I'm hoping that buy taking this one and saving Indonesian 'face' the Indons will once again cooperate and stop further boats and respond to any that do get away by intercepting them, as they did before the deliberate sabotage effort by the Fairfax and ALPBC to wreck Bishop's visit and Abbotts plans. Couple of hundred years ago that would have been classified as treachery and heads would have fallen.

SOPS 9th Nov 2013 02:37

Isn't time to issue orders that under no circumstances Are Australian ships to carry out SAR Ops for AS boats in Indo waters?

Clare Prop 9th Nov 2013 03:54

Very very disappointed in the government. They are just as weak, spineless and pathetic as Rudd/Gillard and now also look like complete fools and liars, weak and terrified of big bad Indonesia.

This is their "Oceanic Viking" moment where a precedent has been set that will cost we the taxpayers billions and billions and billions of dollars. The only winners here are Serco.

Clearly there are no Australian politicians of any party who will put our interests above Indonesias :mad:

I think they were in international waters but the Indonesians SAR zone is that correct?

Thank you Fauxfax for betraying Australia. Thank you to all those who have sucked up to Obama and let them use our embassies to "gather intelligence"

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


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