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parabellum 27th Jun 2013 23:30

Political correspondents on Sky seem to think it may be Aug 24th.

I would have thought Krudd would want as much time as he can get to put essential changes in place that will swing the voters?

Ken Borough 27th Jun 2013 23:50

A challenging idea?
If its all so easy, why don't the right wing reactionary critics such as Bolt, Akerman, Sloane et al stand for parliament at the forthcoming elections? Let them see how simple it is to develop coherent public policy and then implement it! I often wonder why they don't have the courage.

Dark Knight 28th Jun 2013 00:18

At the extreme risk of being called sexist or misogynist it is interesting to note not one of the female members of the Labor Pardee have resigned or spoken of their lack of support for their (last week?) beloved leader?

Additionally, it will be interesting to see which female minister retains her portfolio or gains one?

Clare Prop 28th Jun 2013 00:58

It won't be before the G-20 summit in Russia on 8th Sept, no way he'd miss out on a junket like that for some silly old local elections....or risk seeing someone from the other side going to it instead of him!

sisemen 28th Jun 2013 01:24

I think Clare has it. Probably mid October.

D'pirate 28th Jun 2013 02:04

Clare is right, no way Krud will miss out on G20 :yuk:

FullOppositeRudder 28th Jun 2013 03:02

Scroll down to see the cartoon ....

Rudd Gillard leadership knitting

7x7 28th Jun 2013 03:17

On the radio this morning, some pundit said Sept 21st is looking the most likely.

Some may think the cut and paste below is off topic. Then, some might think it's not that far off topic at all. Whatever, it made me smile, and in Australia's current state, we could all do with as many of those as possible.

Ahhhhh the wisdom of the ages.

A female CNN journalist heard about a very old Jewish man who had been going to the Western Wall to pray, twice a day, every day, for a long, long time.

So she went to check it out. She went to the Western Wall and there he was, walking slowly up to the holy site.

She watched him pray and after about 45 minutes, when he turned to leave, using a cane and moving very slowly, she approached him for an interview.

"Pardon me, sir, I'm Rebecca Smith from CNN. What's your name?

"Morris Feinberg," he replied.

"Sir, how long have you been coming to the Western Wall and praying?"

"For about 60 years."

"60 years! That's amazing! What do you pray for?"

"I pray for peace between the Christians, Jews and the Muslims."
"I pray for all the wars and all the hatred to stop."
"I pray for all our children to grow up safely as responsible adults and to love their fellow man."
"I pray that politicians tell us the truth and put the interests of the people ahead of their own interests."

"How do you feel after doing this for 60 years?"

"Like I'm talking to a bloody brick wall."

500N 28th Jun 2013 03:34

Rudd has just endeared himself to every gay couple
and lefty in Australia by calling for a conscience
vote on gay marriage.

Wong and her dyke sidekick will be happy.

And ha identified the other two hot buttons to Attack Abbott on,
Asylum Seekers and Carbon Tax.

sisemen 28th Jun 2013 04:20

It really didn't take long for the nasty side of him to re-emerge. He referred to Queensland as "the People's Republic of Queensland".

Ken Borough 28th Jun 2013 04:29


While I don't know the context, I think that is very funny. From where I sit south of the border, I reckon Queensland at the moment is anything but a 'Peoples Republic'.

CoodaShooda 28th Jun 2013 04:33

Meanwhile, labor and the greens are demonstrating their contempt for the democratic process by pushing 55 items of legislation through the Senate without consideration or debate.

Viva la guillotine! :yuk:

Andu 28th Jun 2013 04:50

For conservative voters, there could be a silver lining to Rudd's re-ascension. With JEG at the helm, the underlying campaign slogan seemed to be: "They're going to win, so maybe you should vote Labor so their win isn't too big."

Now that Kevni's back at the helm, he's making noises like he might win, so any disaffected swinging voters who might have been tempted to vote Labor to limit the size of the Coalition victory even though they didn't like what Labor has become under Gillard would (or should) not be inclined to do so now.

Obviously many people do not think the way I do, but I'm amazed how many people seem to fall for the man's (to me) oh so obvious falsity. What was that pop song? - "Short memories my friend, shooooorrrrrt memories."

500N 28th Jun 2013 05:05

"What was that pop song? - "Short memories my friend, shooooorrrrrt memories.""

You better pay Garrett royalties for using his words :O

So just for you, here he is in full flight :ok:

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Clare Prop 28th Jun 2013 05:36

Hmm, I was considering posting that when it emerged that Garrett had quit...even though it was KRudd who parachuted him into a safe seat in the first place.

Dark Knight 28th Jun 2013 06:20

The loss of control of OUR Borders lies squarely with Prime Minister Kevin Rudd!

That a Prime Minister could ever release a statement that could increase tension between two countries simply to score political points against his opposition is appalling behavior demonstrating overwhelmingly that the cool hands KRudd speaks of are definitely not his.

We know what the opposition's policy is on asylum seekers, but what is Rudd's policy?

500N 28th Jun 2013 06:23

What was the Statement he made ?

Recent or a long time ago ?

Dark Knight 28th Jun 2013 06:53

Today at his first press confernece.

`KEVIN Rudd has claimed that electing Tony Abbott as prime minister could spark conflict with Indonesia that could escalate.

On the eve of scheduled bilateral talks in Jakarta with President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, restored Prime Minister Mr Rudd said the opposition's plan to turn back asylum-seeker boats risked "some sort of conflict with Indonesia".

Mr Rudd said Australia needed "cool hands on the tiller" when dealing with Indonesian relations.

"What I am talking about is diplomatic conflict. But I am always wary about where diplomatic conflicts go," he said, before referring to the 1962-66 Indonesia-Malaysia conflict.

"Konfrontasi with Indonesia evolved over a set of words, and turned into something else.''

Pressed on the claim, Mr Rudd suggested the opposition's boats policy could lead to a naval showdown.

"So what happens on day one when Field Marshal Tony puts out the order to the captain of the naval frigate X to turn back a bunch of boats?''

"And you have got a naval frigate from the Indonesian navy on the other side of the equation?'' '

CoodaShooda 28th Jun 2013 06:57

Now let me see.

Turning an Indonesian flagged vessel, crewed by Indonesians back in to Indonesian waters will lead to the Indonesian government taking umbrage at Australia? :hmm:

500N 28th Jun 2013 07:00

Wow ! I see what you mean.

Well for a start, Aust military ships are not allowed within
Indonesian Territorial waters anyway so any confrontation
would occur, if it occurred in Indonesian waters.

And I don't think the Indonesians would take on

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