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david1300 12th Jun 2013 11:20

fliegs,when you stop to draw breath you might see the following:
1 the confusion is understandable as the attendees didn't see the menu and possibly didn't even know which function is was allegedly at
2 could it have been a fundraiser, was Hockey there, blah, blah, blah - see 1 above

The smelling salts are in aisle 4 if you need some.

500N 12th Jun 2013 11:22

After what has come out, I think Gillard might eat her words !!!

She is playing a dangerous game playing the sexist card.

Buster Hyman 12th Jun 2013 11:30

Well, I look forward to hearing Gillard apologise to the LNP for her over the top reaction to the menu then, if indeed it was an in-joke....no, I'm not holding my breath.

SOPS 12th Jun 2013 11:34

I think she should stop taking advise from that 457 visa, media advisor bloke. He obviously has no idea how the bulk of Australians think. He is basing all his spin ideas on the British electorate, and it generally does not work here, down under.

One day, Dullard is going to sit an reflect "what was I thinking"

RJM 12th Jun 2013 11:40

It looks as though the briliant strategem of Gillard and most likely McTernan is going to whip around and bite her as usual.


david1300 12th Jun 2013 11:41

Originally Posted by Fliegenmong (Post 7888870)
....So as for the Boats we're being softened up for Coalition failure already, pretty well as predicted, and I get rebuffed with a question as an answer for a question....

Here's your answer - post 5763. But you don't need to accept it. Just keep blustering along asking and asking.

Originally Posted by david1300 (Post 7865674)
@fliegs - my best guess is 12 to 18 months. In practical terms, policy has to be turned into legislation, which then has to be drafted, debated and passed. Then the effect of this legislation has to be communicated all the way through the system. But until the policy/legislation cycle is complete, the damage done by the current policy will continue in full force and effect, and probably increase before the tide is turned.

Fliegenmong 12th Jun 2013 11:45

Ta Dave!

I forgot there's always an excuse when convenient.....functions like that, that I've attended, I usually, actually being a 'Foodie' always peruse the menu...would have though big joe did the same....

But I accept that my visitations to such salubrious events are so few and far between that I probably cherish them, more so than pass them off as 'didn't see the menu', didn't even know I was there!!!

Held up unwittingly on the gravy train I was Sir!, nose firmly entrenched in trough ......It's an entirely plausible excuse Davo, I understand....Peter Reith still pops up now and again you know!!

Having watched Campbell Newmans performance Davo, I think I am entitled to some smelling salts :ok:

Saltie 12th Jun 2013 12:13

Fleigs, from latest reports, (I know, I know - "if they can be believed"), it would seem that Joe and Mal might well have studied the menu and read every word on it - and they wouldn't have seen any mention of crimson boxes or quail of any kind. The chef says he made a fake menu as a joke and the diners at the fund raiser got a different - real - menu.

I know this won't satisfy the True Believers, but as damage control measures go, it's better than some I've seen lately. If the Libs can come up with a few copies of the "real" menu, (with dinner at $1000 to $2000 a head, there'd be a fair chance that a few people might have kept a copy), Mal Brough might come out of this not too damaged, or at least well enough to be safe from disendorsement.

sisemen 12th Jun 2013 12:48

It's a typical "oh fark. Jools has blown it again. What have we got in the cupboard that can divert the press?"

Loved the bit on 7.30 report that had a plethora of blue ties! If that's all Dullard and the ALP have got in the campaigning cupboard then they deserve everything that's coming their way.

Flying Binghi 12th Jun 2013 13:27

Ah, nostalgia. Old Goffy weren't that bad after all..:)

Poster Winston offers up some comments over at Joanne Nova's place...

"I’m just so pleased that poor old Gough Whitlam got to live to see his reign as Australia’s worst ever PM, and head of Australia’s worst ever government, brought to an abrupt end by this current Labor government and its lame duck incompetent PM, who are now the all-time, undisputed and undefeated champions of collective incompetence, corruption, malfeasance, economic illiteracy, and supreme purveyors of distortions, lies, spin and deception. And..." continues - An Abbott fan offends with a bad joke. Gillard lies, cheats, and burns your life savings. One of these things matters. « JoNova


Cactusjack 12th Jun 2013 14:41

It is all very very entertaining! Embarrassing but entertaining. Gillard is the (large) butt of jokes nationally, internationally, even within her own party.
She is toxic. Even the Peter Garrett got banned from some Queensland schools, first time that has ever happened, gold! Politicians packing up their offices already, the shredders working overtime, C.V's being sent to prospective employers, it's all happening.

But as for Rudd, dear oh dear. If you have ever studied psychology or sociopathy then he is your man! A sociopath to the bone. This man knows he is history, and my god he is going to take the lot of them down with him. Gillard and her faceless men thought they knew the man, his game, his strengths and his weaknesses. But as is often the case, they didn't pick that he was a socio til it was too late. They had rolled him and then the damage came afterward. His ultimate blow came after his failed attempt to regain the reigns. Leading Creen to believe that he was ready to come back as leader, letting Crean do all the work, make it public, go for Julia's throat then he Kev says 'sorry folks, I ain't interested'! Pure genius, and the final nail was banged into Labor's coffin. Hell I wouldn't mind betting he has pissed in her coffee, wiped shit under her car door handles and put nasty letters in her neighbourhood mail boxes!!
Meanwhile he waves to the crowds, the crowds wave back, they cheer KEVIN KEVIN KEVIN, to many he is a Messiah. Oh yeah baby, this man is good, very very good!

Then we have Latham on the sidelines chipping in! Oh yes, it takes a socio to recognise a socio, and Latham reads 'the book of Rudd' extremely well, he knows what Kev has done, what he is doing, what Kevs agenda is! Describing Rudd as evil is interesting, and in the case of Gillard and co that is certainly true. in their eyes as he is single handedly burning Rome to the ground. They screwed the wrong person, and the wily silvertail won't stop his conquest until he has buried the people, party and supporters who screwed him, be assured of that. And I admire him for that, why bend over and take it, why not return eye for an eye? I eagerly await Kevs next trick, he isn't done yet.

On a final conclusion, Labor are left with one choice really, Shorten. If they roll Joolia and put Shorten in it won't win them an election, but it will help them hang on to a seat or two, soften the impending bloodbath by a fraction, and give them the foundation to rebuild. It is still going to be probably the largest election thrashing in Australian history and nothing can halt that. Why? Because it is what Kevin wants. Try and stop him!

SOPS 12th Jun 2013 14:50

Cactus.....you have just made my night:ok:

RJM 12th Jun 2013 16:57

Mine too!

Apart from being a dullard, a z-grade retail politician and a rabid Marxist hell-bent on destroying Australia’s economic foundations, Gillard is a tragic nobody allowed to wreak terrible damage on the country by a corrupt power structure in a dying party.

Labor Right will suffer most in the next election, leaving the union controlled zombies of the Left in charge of what's left of the ALP. By union I don't mean hardworking shop stewards but the entrenched leaderships of the few big Left wing unions, the guys who are making a hypocrite of Gillard by forcing her to back their parachuted in male condidates for pre-selection in the relatively safe seats of Gellibrand (ex A-G Roxon) and Batman (ex Mar'n Fer'son) in dedfiance of Labor's 40% of winnable seats for women rule, none of which makes for healthy politics in the next parliament, especially if the Greens and Left independents control the Senate.

Gillard, in whose world of undergraduate politics the government of Australia is a personal game, will blame Abbott for everything.

PS It was interesting to see the ABC man the guns apparently without checking any facts on the menu story, then have to recant in mid-stride on the news programs tonight. Good job newly appointed Labor trusty Russell Skelton was in there fact-checking. Over to you, Mark Scott and Media Watch...

500N 12th Jun 2013 17:08

"apparently without checking any facts on the menu story"

I am amazed no one, from either side of politics checked the facts of the story
before commenting, especially the Liberal pollie who apologised !

On ABC Radio in the last couple of days, absolute proof that
the majority of leadership speculation is media driven / hype.

A "numbers" man from Labor was asked about it, he said words
along the lines of "I had a quiet weekend / last few days, plenty of
phone calls and messages left by Journos about the leadership,
no calls from colleagues about the leadership. So it is journos
jumping at shadows, journos chasing up journos stories
on the leadership with none of it actually having any basis at all"

RJM 12th Jun 2013 21:14

Exactly. Especially since Brough's (early) apology sressed that the source was not a member of the Liberal Party.

"Join the dots," says Julia...

500N 12th Jun 2013 21:16

""Join the dots," says Julia..."

Except she is the one person who couldn't organise
a piss up in a brewery !

Andu 12th Jun 2013 22:10

I see that Arnold Swartznegger and Julia Gillard will be on stage together in Perth ("Perf") this morning.

...the Terminator meets the About to be Terminated?

RJM 12th Jun 2013 23:05

Except she is the one person who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery!
Part of her problem is that she doesn't see that.

500N 12th Jun 2013 23:16

Well, one of her minders needs to tell here that.

Play to your strengths and let others handle
everything else.

CoodaShooda 12th Jun 2013 23:44

Play to your strengths
I thought that's what she's doing - lies, evasion and misrepresentations.

When she leaves it to her minders, she ends up with aboriginal riots and an embarrassing photo op.

I see Peter van Onselen (sp?) has now tweeted that the restauranteur who did the menu "considers himself a labor man". :eek:

Now, what were we saying about the gender card coming back to bite her?

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