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hellsbrink 22nd Mar 2013 17:45


Given the embarrassing display that we have witnessed in the past few days which has been the culmination of over 5 years of stuff ups perhaps we ought to be bringing in a system whereby the voting public have the ability to pull the pin on an under-performing government.
There is a way, it's called pitchforks and torches at dawn.

Enough people assemble, there won't be enough police and/or army to hold them back even if they wanted to.

RJM 22nd Mar 2013 19:43

Just to put a smile on everyone's faces again...

An aeroplane was about to crash; there were 5 passengers on board, but only 4 parachutes.

The 1st passenger said, "I am President Obama, the most powerful man in the world. The world needs me, I have to live." So he took the first parachute and left the aircraft.

The 2nd passenger, Julia Gillard said, "I am the Prime Minister of Australia and the smartest woman in Australian history, so I'm too important to die." She took the second parachute and jumped out of the aircraft.

The 3rd passenger, Bob Brown said, "I'm Bob Brown and the Australian nation needs my guidance." He grabbed the parachute next to him and jumped.

The 4th passenger, former Australian PM John Howard, said to the 5th passenger, a 10-year-old schoolgirl, "I have lived a full life, and served my country the best I could. I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last parachute."

The little girl said, "That's alright, Mr. Howard. There's a parachute left for you. Australias smartest woman took my schoolbag!"


(Don't ask what happened to the crew, and I don't think Howard was perfect)

Takan Inchovit 22nd Mar 2013 21:18

I do not believe the Labor caucus can't find someone better than Jools, the divisions must be pretty lopsided.
As one letter the the editor asked, "where are the faceless men?"

CoodaShooda 22nd Mar 2013 22:50

Just look at the growth in union revenues and power to see where the faceless ones stand.

criticalmass 22nd Mar 2013 23:56

The rotting zombie that was once Federal Labor lurches and staggers towards electoral extinction, its trail marked by the toxic trail of former ministers sloughed off like decaying flesh. :)

Buster Hyman 23rd Mar 2013 00:19

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FullOppositeRudder 23rd Mar 2013 02:25

The Adelaide Advertiser's headline this morning points out that with the departure of ministers over the past days Eileen has lost 77 accumulated years of front bench experience.

Not that it will worry her, she knows everything anyway. Besides they were all men, so it's good that they're gone....

(Nothing causes an alpha female more stress than having to deal with competent members of the other gender. Sometimes when they really can't manage, they resort to accusations of misogyny. There are historical example of this :=.)

sisemen 23rd Mar 2013 02:31

She's a bit like that old Saxon king, Canute (Cnut as they spelt it then) reckoning he could hold back the tide. The name's pretty similar as well :E

Yeah, yeah, I know he was trying to prove the opposite but why get in the way of a good story!

Traffic_Is_Er_Was 23rd Mar 2013 03:34

Mark Latham puts the boot in:
Mark Latham lashes Kevin Rudd

parabellum 23rd Mar 2013 05:53

With the current ALP spending 95% of it's time concentrating on self preservation it does minimise the amount of time they have available to further f**k up Australia!

Unfortunately they will now spend the next six months pushing through approval for programmes and legislation that will be completely unfunded and unfundable and will be left as a mill stone around the Coalitions neck, not to mention that they will have spent all the money in the pot!

CoodaShooda 23rd Mar 2013 06:25

Yes but those unfunded promises can still buy a lot of votes. :ugh:

RJM 23rd Mar 2013 06:27

Pickering has his say on events:


Simon Crean was no fan of Rudd's. He was a fan of stability and forced Rudd to either shit or get off the potty. Rudd is now off the potty.

Having known Simon Crean's Dad, it is doubtful the apple fell far from the tree.

Frank Crean was a Labor man, honest and true.

He was no intellectuaal but an important disc in the backbone of the Party and at 92 he died just before he had to witness its destruction by Gillard.

Kevin Rudd crows that he is a man of his word. What rot!

An angry Crean walked into his office to tell him, "I am getting the numbers together Kevin, enough is enough and you must bring this to a head." Kev's dodgy little heart must have skipped a beat.

"I am being drafted, ooh goody", he thought. "... but do they really have the numbers?"

They didn't have the numbers and when he fronted the media to explain he wouldn't be challenging because, "I am a man of my word", I reached for the nearest bucket.

How fortunate. A few more numbers and "his word" was out the window. The man is a grub.

The thin cream of Labor had pleaded with him to lead them in an assault on the Gillard firebrand. He agreed, but only if they could show him the numbers.

In the end they couldn't so he walked out and left them with their bare arses exposed to Gillard's venom. What a man! What courage! What an insipid bastard!

And this is the reason I have been saying for over a year than Rudd would never again lead the Labor Party and that the possibility was a figment of media's imagination.

Rudd wallowed in Gillard's unpopularity, pretending it reflected his popularity. It didn't.

Now the Gillard Party is over, dead, without heart or hope. But the Labor Party will one day re-emerge without this awful destructive woman.

It will eventually rebuild... and without corrupt unions.

Labor's best men have gone now... lost in the wake of a decadent Gillard. All that is left is the dregs of what was once the proud symbol of the working man.

It will rebuild with the help of many honest Labor men like Bob Kernohan.

The Labor Party has been destroyed first by an arrogant Rudd who changed the rules to allow him to select his own cabinet ministers.

As I said in a previous article, this is a diabolical system for a Party that lives and dies by its union controlled factions.

It gives the Prime Minister complete control and prevents Caucus Members objecting to, or defying their Leader.

Rudd wanted this system because he did not belong to a faction and didn't want union interference in Executive decisions.

Without a faction, Members have no union protection and are beholdin' only to the Leader.

That's why Rudd was dispensed with and that's why Gillard treats unions with the utmost reverence.

The Rudd system was in play yesterday when his unprotected supporters fled for fear of Gillard's vengeance. Only the brave stayed... and died.

The treacherous Bob Carr has been relentlessly undermining Gillard for months but has decided to lie about it. He craves the opulent Foreign Affairs stuff and will drain it dry.

Rudd has now admitted his new system was a mistake... too late Kev.

Gillard is watching a once great Party crumble around her ankles.

She doesn't care that polls will worsen next week. As long as she can get more of her ill-conceived legislation passed before she has to face the people, she is happy.

She would rather see her Party die this way than accept her own incompetence.

If Gillard cared one iota for the Labor Party she would spend the week-end penning her resignation.

RJM 23rd Mar 2013 06:30

I think you're right. The NZDIS and Gonski are insurance policies for Gillard. She can constantly refer to them as if they were real, even though they are unfunded.

david1300 23rd Mar 2013 06:35

Watching her mates defend her:

7x7 24th Mar 2013 01:23

I think even Blind Freddie knows that Labar are clinging on grimly in the hope that history will repeat itself and the Coalition will make some colossal blunder along the same lines as John Hewson did with that damned chocolate cake and the GST.

I had a beer yesterday with a friend who was once very high up in the National Party. I asked him if he had any insider goss on the Richard Torbay business. Part of his reply was interesting. Barnaby Joyce is repeatedly making vaguely positive comments to the media about his intention to contest New England for the Nats against Tony Windsor. However, the NSW Nats constitution says that any candidate must be a resident of NSW, and Barnaby Joyce is currently a resident of Queensland while a Senator for the CLP in Queensland.

So if he were to risk his political future by contesting a lower house seat against Windsor, (according to my mate, a win over Windsor is by no means a shoo-in; Windsor, despite his support for Labor over the last three years, remains very popular in his electorate), he would need to:

(a) take up residence in NSW,
(b) resign his Queensland Senate seat and
(c) resign from the Queensland CLP before taking up membership of the NSW Nats, which is a completely different organisation to the Nats in NSW.


(I wasn't aware of this last point 'point (c)' or that it would be a problem. I didn't ask if the leadership in either or both Parties could make exceptions to their constitutions in what most would agree is a exceptional situation.)

I asked whether there was anyone among the NSW Nats who'd be a worthwhile contender against Windsor. The reply he gave to that question was not reassuring - or, to put it another way, should be very reassuring for Tony Windsor.

Interesting times ahead in New England, it would seem...




Meanwhile, on the other side of politics, Anthony Albersleazy is living up to his richly deserved reputation for 'whatever it takes'.

Andu 24th Mar 2013 02:08

TIM COLEBATCH writing in National Times yesterday


The Gillard Government: 10 Key Issues

1 Mining tax: Julia Gillardís first move as PM was to defuse the mining tax row, essentially by giving in to the minersí demands. As critics warned, however, the tax has raised little or no net revenue so far, while the government has spent the money it assumed the tax would raise.

2 Asylum seekers: Ms Gillardís second move was to announce that asylum seekers would be sent to East Timor. That was quickly quashed by East Timorís leaders; a subsequent deal with Malaysia also collapsed. But when boat arrivals increased inexorably, as Tamils fled Sri Lanka and minority groups fled Afghanistan, Labor performed a U-turn to embrace most of John Howardís Pacific Solution, moving refugees to Papua New Guinea (and, in future, Nauru). But the boat arrivals continued to rise.

3 Carbon tax: Ms Gillard pledged during the election campaign that there would be no carbon tax under a government she led, but quickly dumped that promise to win the support of the independents and Greens. Parliament eventually voted to establish a carbon tax of $23 a tonne for 350 large emitters, just from 2012 to 2015, when it would be replaced by an emissions trading scheme. But a relentless campaign against the tax by Tony Abbott has made it a political negative, and Mr Abbott has pledged to scrap the tax if the Liberals win government.

4 The economy: Since late 2010, Australia has undergone its biggest mining boom since the Gold Rush. Mining investment has grown 150 per cent, accounting for more than half the growth in GDP, but much of the rest of the economy has gone backwards under the impact of the high dollar. The economy has grown by 3 per cent a year since mid-2010, its trend pace, and added 432,500 jobs. But growth in jobs and output slowed in 2012, unemployment edged up, and the Reserve Bank has been forced to take back all its interest rate rises.

5 The budget: Ms Gillard and Treasurer Wayne Swan pledged to have the budget back in surplus in 2012-13, but with little growth in most of the economy, and mining companies able to claim big deductions, taxes have fallen well short of target, and economists now forecast a deficit of up to $20 billion.

6 The NBN: Laborís ambitious infrastructure project remains popular with voters but has delivered only a fraction of its original target, with only 150,000 of Australiaís 9 million homes now expected to be connected by June 30.

7 Afghanistan: Australiaís distant war has enjoyed bipartisan support in Parliament, but with 39 Australians killed in the conflict, and the troops to come home in 2014, there is growing scepticism about what it has achieved.

8 Skills: The government has announced several reform packages to increase skills training. A record 185,000 apprentices and trainees graduated in 2012-13, but industry is also importing record numbers of ready-trained foreign workers through skilled migration and 457 visas.

9 Disability reform: Gillard has committed Labor to implement the National Disability Insurance Scheme at an estimated cost of $6 billion a year, but has yet to reveal how it will be financed.

10 Education: Labor has pledged to implement the Gonski reportís call for an extra $5 billion a year to be spent on schools (and disadvantaged students in particular), but has yet to reveal costings.

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Now that she's replaced the 'A' Team with the "Eh?" Team, I imagine those past "achievements" will pale into insignificance alongside what's to come.

Pinky the pilot 24th Mar 2013 02:33

Interesting times ahead, to be sure.

I'm headed back to Japan around late June for some more glider towing but due back before September 14th.

Think I might organise an application for a postal vote beforehand though. Just in case......:hmm:

Worrals in the wilds 24th Mar 2013 03:36

Vote early, vote often. :}
Enjoy the gliding btw. :ok:

7x7 24th Mar 2013 10:56

Oakshott on 60 Minutes tonight admitting that he might not run in September.

I think that's a first.

hellsbrink 24th Mar 2013 11:00

If he jumps before he is pushed, how does that affect any "pension" he gets?


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