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Captain Dart 14th Mar 2013 06:27

I would rather that they didn't do a knife job on her.

In accordance with Godwin's Law, I draw the parallel of the Allies deciding not to eliminate Hitler by commando raid or other means during the later stages of World War 2. He was making such a mess of Germany's military strategy, that having him replaced with another leader may actually have lengthened the war.

Clare Prop 14th Mar 2013 06:52

Hmm, tomorrow is the Ides (15th) of March.

Time up for Julia Caesar?

Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;

sisemen 14th Mar 2013 10:03

The social networking site Twitter went into overdrive on Thursday afternoon amid unsubstantiated rumours there could be another challenge involving the former foreign minister.

Buster Hyman 14th Mar 2013 10:26

Social networking site? I thought this was about Angst management?:confused:

sisemen 14th Mar 2013 10:51

Don't fret it's just another of those mind-boggling annoying little tricks put in by the tiny minds that run this site. Substitute t w i t t e r in place of PPRuNe. And should you happen to see Trabant substitute l a n d r o v e r :\

RJM 14th Mar 2013 14:50

I'd like to see her kicked in the arse before being tapped on the shoulder, Or the other way around. It doesn't really matter.

What I'd really like to hear from her is the word 'sorry' - for the carbon tax, the boat people, the mining tax, the pink batts, for any one of Labor's expensive failures. Instead, we just get increasingly desperate, snaky trickery from this worst PM in living memory.

Andu 14th Mar 2013 21:09

In this morning's emails

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel …

"Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land."

Forty years ago, Gough Whitlam said to the people of Australia…

"Put down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land."

Today, Julia Gillard has….

Stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, put camels in plain packaging, and mortgaged the Promised Land!
I hope she isn't rolled today. Just once I want to hear her dreadful voice - when she, and no one else, makes that concession speech. Preferably long before Sept 14th.

500N 14th Mar 2013 21:23


You are right, I'd like to hear the concession speech
because sure as hell she'd put some positive spin on

7x7 14th Mar 2013 22:08

Boat arrivals up 55pc on a year ago
BY: DAN BOX From: The Australian March 15, 2013 12:00AM

THE number of asylum-seekers coming to Australia by boat surged in the first 2 1/2 months of this year, with a 55 per cent spike in arrivals compared to the same period last year.

Almost 1900 people have arrived in the first 73 days of this year, compared with 1209 for the same period last year, which ultimately saw a record of more than 17,200 people arriving in Australia by boat to claim asylum.
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With its legislation forbidding photographs being shown that could identify asylum seekers, the Government has all but muzzled MSM reporting of these arrivals. 1900 in 73 days. How many of these arrivals have you seen reported in the MSM? It's almost become an invasion by stealth.

FullOppositeRudder 14th Mar 2013 23:03

In all of my years, I cannot recall a time when our national leader was held in such utter contempt and viewed with such loathing and disgust by the everyday people I talk with.

It's really quite sickening, and yet she seems totally oblivious to it. Which only adds to the growing horror of it all. This has got to end sooner rather than having to wait until bloody September.

SOPS 15th Mar 2013 01:25

It has to end...NOW!!!!

Buster Hyman 15th Mar 2013 03:18

You'd think the Pope retiring would've been a hint for her wouldn't you?

Dark Knight 15th Mar 2013 05:36

If a Federal election were held today the L-NP would easily win the election according to today’s multi-mode Morgan Poll on Federal voting intention conducted over the last few days, March 7-10, 2013 with an Australia-wide cross-section of 4,627 Australian electors aged 18+.

The Roy Morgan Government Confidence Rating is now at 104pts (up 7pts in a week) with 43% (up 2.5%) saying Australia is ‘heading in the right direction,’ compared to 39% (down 4.5%) saying Australia is ‘heading in the wrong direction’ — mirroring this week’s rise in Consumer Confidence (up 1.4pts to 121.0).

Gary Morgan says:
“Today’s Morgan Poll shows the L-NP (57.5%, up 3%) increasing their lead over the ALP (42.5%, down 3%) on a two-party preferred basis despite Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s week-long stay in Western Sydney — a key battleground for this September’s election.

“The continuing leadership speculation about Prime Minister Gillard, and a possible return to the leadership of former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, continues to provide a massive distraction for the Government as it tries to improve its standing in the electorate.

“In addition, on the weekend the L-NP won a resounding victory in the WA State Election with an approximate two-party preferred result of L-NP (58%) cf. ALP (42%). During the campaign WA Opposition Labor Party Leader Mark McGowan was keen to distance the State Labor Party from the Federal Government. This is not surprising as this week’s Morgan Poll shows the Federal L-NP (69%) cf. ALP (31%) has an even stronger two-party preferred lead in WA.”

Electors were asked: “If an election for the House of Representatives were held today — which party would receive your first preference?”


Coalition: $1:16
ALP: $4:75

priapism 16th Mar 2013 10:14

All my posts have disappeared from this after a day or so but , for a cracking good laugh...


sisemen 16th Mar 2013 15:12

Letter appearing in today's West Australian:

I am very disappointed by the utterances this week of Alannah McTiernan. Shame on her.

I am a Labor voter and a feminist and I well remember the struggles that Alannah herself went through in her early days as a minister. Never was a female more abused,slandered,criticised or maligned. She nevertheless fought on in her own inimitable style, winning praise for her tenacity. She turned into a virago and fought for her party tirelessly. I admired her.

Now she is resting on her laurels, but where is her loyalty?

We all know that Julia Gillard was handed a poisoned chalice. If Kevin Rudd had not been deposed, everyone would now be villifying him and blaming him for the defeat of Labor in this State election. It seems that there has to be a scapegoat, although I note that Mark McGowan was man enough to stand up and take responsibility on his shoulders.

We all know that Julia Gillard could not say "no" when her chance came to run this country. Any woman worth her salt would be ashamed to say "I can't". She stepped up to the challenge even though she must have known it would take a super human to achieve any success.

If Alannah herself had been in Julia's position and had the same opportunity, I am sure she would have done the same thing - and she would have expected our loyalty when things got rough.

It seems to me that loyalty is in very short supply these days. As Fiona Wood said in this newspaper last week, "women are their own worst enemies". We criticise our own gender without mercy. We pick on our female politicians because they are easy targets. It doesn't take a lot of backbone to stand up and defend someone when they are being attacked. It only takes one person to turn the tide. Don't run with the herd, ladies. Think for yourselves.

It doesn't matter which political party you belong to, women need to support each other. That is how we got the vote. Let's show everyone that we know how to use it wisely and well.

Eileen Ward, Armadale
Well! That's the feminist view! Dullard reluctantly accepted the job when she was handed it - she couldn't say 'no'.

I actually thought that people in Armadale lived in houses. I wasn't aware that some of them still lived under rocks.

Worrals in the wilds 16th Mar 2013 22:58

I've been hearing the 'women should support each other' argument for a long time without seeing much evidence that it actually happens :bored:. IME women (particularly ambitious women) are as quick to dirk each other as blokes are. The caring sisterhood myth is right up there with the Santa Claus myth, and any woman who seriously believes in its existence (as this commentator seems to) is probably cheerfully delusional about a bunch of other stuff.
Such as the current state of the Labor Party...:}

Clare Prop 17th Mar 2013 01:13

Alannah was made fun of when made transport minister with a history of drink driving, speeding and mobile phone driving offences so comments were made by the opposition and cartoons had her looking very merry with a glass in one hand and a toy train in the other. Is that "abuse"? I thought it was satire. She gave as good as she got and never used the "Poor me the misogynists are out to get me" line, she is no longer an MP so can say what she likes and be even more honest.

Women ARE thier worst enemies, I spent five years at an all girl boarding school surrounded by the bitchiness and mental torture that only females can inflict upon each other, I bet EMILYs list meetings are a lot of fun. Not. I know that I hate dishonest politicians.

And I live very close to Armadale, some of the locals do look like they live under rocks, but I mustn't be unkind. :}

Flying Binghi 17th Mar 2013 09:26

Clean Up Australia Day, September 14

(copied from elsewhere)

Takan Inchovit 17th Mar 2013 10:27


(generated locally)

sisemen 18th Mar 2013 00:58

Well.....who'd a thunk it? From 'world's best treasurer', to 'absolute cast-iron guarantee' of a budget surplus, to 'erm, we might not make a surplus', to 'we're f**ked', all in a just a few short weeks.

In the hope that the Sussex Street staffers are still reading and reporting....Swanee you're an incompetent embarrassment to Australia. Why don't you just foxtrot oscar?

Australians warned of 'dramatic' budget plunge - Yahoo!7 Finance Australia

Australian Treasurer Wayne Swan on Sunday warned of a "dramatic" hit to the government's bottom line due to commodity price falls, steeling voters for an austere budget in an election year.

Swan said government revenues had taken a "massive hit" from a plunge in its terms of trade -- the value of exports measured against imports -- with prices for its key mining products down but the Australian dollar remaining high.

"This has contributed to subdued prices pressures and weaker profitability across the economy, which means that nominal GDP -- the value of the goods and services we produce -- has grown more slowly than real GDP for three straight quarters," said Swan in his weekly economic note.

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