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MTOW 24th Mar 2012 21:33

The only guarantee is that twelve months from now, Campbell Newman and his government will be incredibly unpopular, for, even if they get everything right, (which is highly unlikely), they'll have to introduce so many unpopular policies to bail Queensland out of the mess Bligh and Beattie have made of it that it's going to hurt everyone's hip pockets.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with all the Labor-appointed State government senior bureaucrats, especially those who, in the last month or so, wrote huge "early severance" payouts into their employment contracts.

RJM 24th Mar 2012 22:20

Beattie, Bligh... I'm just happy to no longer have a Queensland premier grinning from the screen, enthusiastically telling lies.

Lex Talionis 24th Mar 2012 22:28

The Queensland electorate has emphatically and unequivocally answered the question put to them.

Newman has already said that he will not break any promises.

Let's hope now that he has won that he does not follow the well trodden path of excuses such as 'We didn't know how bad the financial state is so we will not be able to deliver on all our promises."

The previous Government took the electorate for granted as so many others have before them and has paid the same price of electoral defeat.

The LNP should remember that as well.

Flying Binghi 24th Mar 2012 23:38

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Dang!, the QLD election even gets a mention in "...the world's most viewed climate website"

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Fliegenmong 25th Mar 2012 00:52

Quote: "You'd be embarrassed by that if you had 'inside knowledge' of whats really going on...in Vic at least."

Well go on then buster....do tell!

Quote: "especially those who, in the last month or so, wrote huge "early severance" payouts into their employment contracts."

Source MTOW? And, (if provided) would you honestly the same would not have happened if the parties were not in opposite positions??

Quote: "Beattie, Bligh... I'm just happy to no longer have a Queensland premier grinning from the screen, enthusiastically telling lies"

You know very well you'll be getting the same from the Leader of the Liberal Newman Palmer party RJ......the difference is the lies will become acceptable to you now, it will become smart politics now, the lies will become masterstrokes of political genius, far superior tactics & intellect....but they'll be the same goddam lies...I know your smart enough to know that

All that said, I'm glad that the protest against Anna and her ratbag bunch of @rse clowns went toward Liberal Newman Palmer rather than the greens.......How many years of 'because of the previous governemnt' are we going to accept though? 1, 2, 5, 8??? When will they 'own it'

Maybe galahs like Newman think the state voted for him, rather than against Anna....they're all sufficiently removed from the real world.....

RJM 25th Mar 2012 01:55


Quote: "Beattie, Bligh... I'm just happy to no longer have a Queensland premier grinning from the screen, enthusiastically telling lies"

You know very well you'll be getting the same from the Leader of the Liberal Newman Palmer party RJ....
My comment was on purely aesthetic grounds, fliegs. Those tombstone teeth and the Cheshire cat grins of that pair really got to me. Sadly, it seems that Beattie - The Man Who Cannot Let Go - has taken it upon himself to direct the future of the Qld and federal ALP and is once again grinning away and dispensing advice.

Why can't these guys go away gracefully, or if thety have to give advice, do it behind closed doors?


"Peter Beattie says Ms Bligh must vacate her South Brisbane seat, so Labor can try to install Mr Fraser or Mr Dick as Labor leader.

He said the defeated premier had a role to play in helping her former transport minister Annastacia Palaszczuk assume a temporary leadership after Labor's bloodbath at the polls.

...we've got to run a similar strategy to what Campbell Newman did. Accept the fact it worked and have a leader from outside the parliamentary party."

Mr Beattie said Labor had no time to lick its wounds, with the federal election 17 months away.

He said federal Labor must immediately come up with a Queensland plan, to ward off a repeat of the Queensland result at the federal level.

"We have to rebuild or the Labor party can lose the next federal election in Queensland alone," the former premier said.

He said federal ministers must be on high rotation through Queensland, to see Labor's policies.

"Julia must buy a house here," he said.

Fliegenmong 25th Mar 2012 02:32

So what in Sth Bris now a by - election? The B!tch should foot the bill!!!

I've been saying that for years, if you resign for any reason other than incapacitating ill health, you foot the bill for a by - election

I know, ain't gunna happen...........

RJM 25th Mar 2012 03:47

Bligh's resigned, completing the trashing of her own legacy: negative, smear campaign; graceless exit speech in which she offered no apology and acknowledged no fault; and a final broken promise (that she'd stay on) meaning a bye election and a further seat lost to the LNP most likely.

She'll retire on a fat super income, indexed for life.

Zorro Polilla 25th Mar 2012 03:48


My comment was on purely aesthetic grounds, fliegs. Those tombstone teeth and the Cheshire cat grins of that pair really got to me. Sadly, it seems that Beattie - The Man Who Cannot Let Go - has taken it upon himself to direct the future of the Qld and federal ALP and is once again grinning away and dispensing advice.

Why can't these guys go away gracefully, or if thety have to give advice, do it behind closed doors?
Ohhhh the irony! :ugh:


RJM 25th Mar 2012 04:14

Only up to a point, Zorro.

Howard's appearances seem (hard to tell) to be by invitation, and there are certainly fewer of them than appearances by Beattie in Qld, or for that matter the bevy of old Labor hacks.

But without real data, Zorro, I don't think we'll ever agree.

Btw, compare defeated Ashgrove ALP member Kate Jones' excellent concession speech with Bligh's sour offerings.

overun 25th Mar 2012 04:56

lf the Aussies can`t excercise common bleeding sense then we are doomed.

Doomed !

DOOMED !!!!

Takan Inchovit 25th Mar 2012 05:40

Jools will be shakin' in her shoe now, wishing it was O'lemon who won the recent challenge :E

Frank Arouet 25th Mar 2012 05:50

Zorro;

I believe your mob once told me, when I complained about the minority government we have now, and how a few "Independants" and some "watermelons" grabbed power and shoved the red queen in our face, that I should simply get over it and get used to it. I didn't get over it.

Now Zorro old mate, soldered on ALP stooge, if you live in Qld, get over it and get used to it. You'll be a while in the wilderness.

Next hop Canberra sunshine and you have a toxic smell in the rear ranks that need excising and hopefully if done, will bring about a change in government.

I can't wait to see the "Independant's" next Lower House polling, nor can I wait to see The Greens "cat's bum" look on their faces when they become irrelevant, when Abbott's bills to repeal the insane legislation are blocked three times in the Senate and give him cause and the legal right for a double dissolution.

The die is cast.:)

Worrals in the wilds 25th Mar 2012 06:12


Bligh's resigned, completing the trashing of her own legacy:
Good.
Several (IMO) decent MPs lost their seats thanks to her campaign. If the ALP can't win Logan something is very broken. :ooh:

It will be interesting to see what leaks out about it, and muddy water is already starting to trickle. There has been commentary in the paper to the effect that not everyone was in favour of the smear Campbell approach. Apparently Beattie was slagging her off all over the morning telly; I didn't see it myself, though.

It will also be interesting to see what happens in South Brisbane. I think a lot of people who did vote for Bligh will be feeling a bit disillusioned.

Fliegenmong 25th Mar 2012 06:19

Ha ha Frank, as you said you didn't get over so shouldn't expect Zorro to either, and per my post 427, that is just utter BS to pull the pin on Sth Bne like that, they should be made to pay for the by-elections they create

We get to go back for local elections here very shortly, same atrociously poor choice of candidates....with any luck Dean Vegas will show up and I can vote for him....

Buster Hyman 25th Mar 2012 06:25


Well go on then buster....do tell!
Yeah...as if! :rolleyes: But, I will give you one snippet. Should be in the papers soon anyway. It's actually hard to do anything in this State when the previous Labour Govt. costed projects 'on the back of envelopes' and the real figure is almost triple that costing. You can research the rest & figure out the project if you like...but I reckon you probably wont. Why let facts get in the way of a good moan?

Good to see you back though. You must be in that happy place now. The place where you can snipe from the sidelines knowing that it's not your rabble in charge of the cluster f**k that is QLD!


that is just utter BS to pull the pin on Sth Bne like that, they should be made to pay for the by-elections they create
Have to agree with you on that point. Brumby did the very same thing down here when he lost. Bat, ball, ran home to Mamma! But, don't worry about refuting it, I'm sure there's examples of this BS across all spectrums of politics & its not unique to the ALP.

Fliegenmong 25th Mar 2012 08:26

Well no, if it's going to be in the papers soon, I'll not bother researching, besides. I wouldn't have the foggiest of where to start, and what if I started to research the wrong project, I mean all I really know of Victoria is everyone keeps moving up here, and all the really bad drivers have Vic plates, so you'll have to excuse my ignorance of Victorian state projects...if that is indeed what you were referring to at all......

My rabble? I'm very much a swinging voter, buster, just that howard caused me to swing a looooong way away from the libs., and I, like others, remain a loong way away from them......anna (actually Gillard, shorten, garrett wong et all) has ensured I'm a long way away from them as well

Living here the local rusted on mindset is to vote Liberal, have a look at how much Langbroek won by this time around, and last time.......and it's the same federally (Moncrieff).......The Liberal guys win it no questions asked, and they do nothing other than rely on the rusted on vote.

I see in the seat of Broadwater, it was won by the Liberal Newman Palmer Party candidate, a 26 yr old girl who lives with her Mum.....well i guess that kind of starts to balance the 'experience' tally sheet for the benefit of all those who print lists of experience....

Snipe from the sidelines? A fair question though, how long until campbell 'owns it'? A year from now? 2, 3, 8 when will the excuse of clean up the previous governments mess become tired?

Campbell's track record as Brisbane Lord Mayor isn't exactly sparkling, but he's popular....probably the best the Liberal Newman Palmers have come up with, and they've used a few....some more than once!

No denying this was lost by labor, not won by Lib Newman Palmer.

I was just thinking this thread started back with the Federal leadership fiasco, and it occurs to me that at least Krudd won't die wondering whereas the spineless goon that told us gold was finished and sold of so much of the country's reserve at bargain basement prices...will die wondering

Anyway, lets get on with Campbell's 100 day plan...

overun 25th Mar 2012 09:25

War ?

Handbags at teatime is nearer the mark.

You don`t think you`ve been watching too much morning t.v. ?

Certainly the afternoon slots are occupied by homosexuals almost

exclusively.

Buster Hyman 25th Mar 2012 11:14

I don't think you're trying anymore. Rehashing the same old anti-Vic lines, dragging out the old chestnuts....:zzz:

Nothing to see here, move along...

Fliegenmong 25th Mar 2012 11:35

Sorry buster....not with you mate

What are you trying to articulate exactly?......I'm from Queensland you understand, please make it simple :ok:

:p:p


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