Hey, don't blame us, WITW, McTernan was born in London!

Fair enough, I knew I was doomed either way :ouch::}. However, I don't think he gets the Aussie way of doing things. By and large people aren't buying the message because it's 1. rocking horse poo and 2. really mean.

The difference between the UK and Australian gossip mags shows the difference between the two cultures wrt mean. British publications are a lot more horrible. I was surprised when I first went to the UK and read a few; there would be loads of complaints if the press here published stories calling people 'fat tarts' and similar. Their version of The Biggest Loser was just brutal :eek:! That's not a criticism of the UK, just an observation. I think McTernan's SOP is to channel as much mean and bile as possible, and it just doesn't work very well in Australia.

The true believers love it, but what's the point in wasting time on true believers when they're going to vote for you anway? :bored: It's not winning over the people in the middle, who are the people they desperately need.

Worrals, I think where McTurdan (sic) is proving to be very effective and earning his (I'm sure) very large taxpayer-funded salary is with the young, FM-listening voters, (which is, I suspect, the target audience Labor have employed him to target).

The constant, drip, drip, drip water torture technique of constantly repeating the current Big Lie of the day about Tony Abbott - straight out of Dr Goebbels' song book - is proving effective. The young ones "don't like" Tony Abbott. Ask them why they don't like him and, if my (both single, inner city, 30-something) children are anything to go by, they shrug their shoulders and can't give a concrete answer. They just "don't like" him, and think Malcolm Turnbull would be a far better Liberal leader. Ask them why they think Turnbul would be better and again, they can't answer. It's just that they hear both opinions fifty times a day whenever they're tuned to Triple J, Nova or MMM.

As I said, my kids are over 30. If McTernan's message is reaching them, what hope do the Libs have getting their message across to the 18 year olds?

People didn't like Howard or Keating either, but they still voted for them. Young people too, though usually quietly in the latter case :suspect:.

I listen to yoof FM radio semi-regularly (usually Nova) and I don't recall much political content; maybe it depends on the show? :confused: Either way I think family and friends play a greater influence on a person's politics than what they hear on the radio.

Where has this fellow been and why haven't we heard from him on this thread earlier?

(From the "Is Australia the next Saudi" thread.)

I would think that Trish Crossin would be entirely justified in filing suit on the grounds of racial discrimination.
She is clearly being discriminated against because she has white skin and the only person deemed suitable is required to have black skin.

Don't hold your breath waiting for that to go through an Australian court, Mooney Driver. Don't you understand? Discrimination in Australia is very much a one way street. You can only be guilty of discrimination if you're white, Anglo Saxon Celtic and you're discriminating against someone of a non-white race. Anything attempting to go in the opposite direction meets a very tight, never to be bypassed non-return valve.

Just heard on the ABC news that another asylum seeker boat has been "intercepted" off Ashmore Reef.

That is a problem not only in Australia, looking at many news articles around the world we all have the same problem, must be brains being fried with the glabal warming.

Meanwhile it's quite funny on the blogs (particulrly The Drum) to see the JG disciples try to blame Tony Abbott for the massive and gowing backlash against the Nova thing everywhere but particularly in the NT.

I only just realised NP has actually been living comfortably in Canberra for many years so perhaps Gillard could explain why Kate Lundy didn't get the boot rather than Crossin.

Paternalism, racism, sexism, all sorts of -isms going on here and none of them good.

Yep even the ALPBC are publishing less than flattering articles.

Has the tide turned?

No tides turning - just the increasing size and speed of the already underway tsunami :E

I stopped reading the comments on the Drum for the same reason I stopped using passenger trains; the crazies and ferals are just too pitiful/irritating to watch. Abbott has very sensibly stayed well out of this debate, they can wear this debacle all on their own.

Even Natasha Stott Despoja criticised the decision on TV last night, and she's hardly a right wing misogynist. IIRC her opinion was that it sent a message that a good Senator was expendible and that Perris was making a bad decision. If even she's publically critical, everyone's critical.

Advance Australia Fair

Australians hang our heads in shame,
‘Cos Gillard is still free
She’s scammed and knifed her party mates
And doing the same to me
Election day is nearly here
And she will soon be gone
So ready with the baseball bats
And sing this joyful song

She is consigned to history
And can’t do anymore wrong.

Have a good one mates :ok:

I wonder if there's a journo out there who could come up with some stats. on how many of the people who took up Australian citizenship today have retained the citizenship of the nation they've come from?


I have a neighbour who has three passports, or three 'nationalities'. WTF? We've so cheapened Australian citizenship since Whitlam lowered the residency requirements to two years that we might as well put an Oz passport into corn flake packets. If my neighbour is anything to go by, that's about the value dual citizens put upon it.

Stats... just the job fer Nate Silver. He's in Melbourne at the moment, could probably ask him how big a landslide the next election will be..:cool:




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Watching the Melbourne Comedy Festival Great Debate on telly last night.
Surprised to see several speakers of usually labor orientation make jokes that reflected poorly on our current PM.
Equally surprising was the warm reception the jokes got from the usually trendy audience.

Forget the opinion polls. McTernan has a bigger problem than he may realise.

"Discrimination in Australia is very much a one way street. You can only be guilty of discrimination if you're white, Anglo Saxon Celtic and you're discriminating against someone of a non-white race."


That is so true it's not funny.

I have just come back from the NT, they use "whitey", whites all the time.

If I used the term "black" in Melbourne, well .....................

But would the term black be an issue in the NT?
It's not in Queensland (depending on the intonation of course), and nor are blackfella/whitefella. There are several other derogatory words in use for Indigenous people (and Anglos for that matter), but IME 'black' and 'white' are still neutral descriptives, albeit untrendy.

Worral

The problem is, what is OK in one area is not OK in another.

Yes, black is used but a lot of people use T/O's - as in traditional owners,
not a term I like.

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T/O's !!! :yuk: What a PC [email protected] that is!!!! :rolleyes: