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EffohX 9th Aug 2012 06:13

Part 2 of Pickering's "Is our Prime Minister a crook?" out now, where he names names in a very direct way. Larry Pickering
Note the slight amendment to the title.

EffohX 9th Aug 2012 06:14

Some of the comments under the article are rather direct(!)

I16 9th Aug 2012 11:28

TEN, 9 & 7 have had the Govt. big lock put on them and ABC & SBS are not sure on how to handle a breaking story.
How come the very well paid in the press corp. do not want to break ranks - oh its collusion by them, just what they all rabbit on about when the banks and petrol companies jack up fees and prices.
What absolute hypercritical tossers.
Dont' buy a paper tomorrow - read Pickering on line

I feel better now!

500N 9th Aug 2012 21:31

Navy saves 211 on boat - more like Water Taxi service
Here we go again ! I think I will lose the bet at this rate.

A BOAT crowded with the largest number of asylum seekers to arrive in Australia in more than a decade has been picked up after putting out an emergency call near Christmas Island.

Two navy patrol vessels went to the aid of the boat, which had 211 people aboard.

HMAS Larrakia and HMAS Ararat spent yesterday ferrying passengers from the boat north-east of Christmas Island under instructions from the Australian Maritime Safety Authority.

More than 7300 asylum seekers have arrived this year, more than half of them in the past two months.

BandAide 9th Aug 2012 21:45

It's so simple. If Australia announced a policy that no refugees would ever reach the mainland, this business of people coming in on boats illegally would stop. Just do it.

500N 9th Aug 2012 21:51


Bugger announcing a policy - need to play hard ball like Howard.

Give me two fast patrol boats and I'll show you what emergency calls
are - back to their "mates" in Indon that will guarantee no more boats
ever leave Indonesia again for Australia.

And none of this Australian Navy will be sending Patrol Boats
into Indonesian waters ! What a load of BS.

And if we really do need to pick them up, why use Expensive Navy equipment with all the wear and tear, why not just get a decent ocean going boat with some Ribs / Zodiacs.

It's not like we need to use the guns on board and at least a decent boat would have some room, those Navy boats are so cramped it's not funny !!!


Buster Hyman 9th Aug 2012 22:14

The way its going, we'll be building a dry dock on Christmas Island to repair the boats & pay the boats' crew to do all the shuttling!

Alternatively, we get a retired cruise ship to patrol those waters, deck it out with immigration officers & equipment, and it can just sail up & down collecting all the MayDays & then processing them onboard.

500N 9th Aug 2012 22:18


That is a damn good idea.

We can pick them up a bit earlier - like in Indonesia waters and while they are being "processed" (how the F would they know what is going on ?:O), they can be dropped off back in Indonesia !!!

That way they never leave Indon waters, problem solved :O:ok:


Andu 9th Aug 2012 22:32

Buster, to approach the argument from a different perspective, I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that, particularly when considering current events in Syria and recent events in Egypt and Libya, and the Greeks expelling 700 or more illegal immigrants in one day, (the Greeks are allowed to call them that) it's only a matter of time before we see a substantial ship turn up with 1,000+ on board claiming asylum.

Chris Bowen on AM this morning (not!) answering questions arising from this latest arrival. He had me gritting my teeth to think that my taxes will be supporting this ***ing idiot's open-ended parliamentary pension and unlimited Gold Travel Pass for the rest of his oxygen-thieving natural life.

bob johns 9th Aug 2012 22:42

bob johns
If these f-----g idiots were running Australia in 1942 all the japs would have needed to do was send a telegram that they were on their way and these f-----ts would send a hearty welcome and start to learn japanese-- these morons are un-Australian.

500N 9th Aug 2012 22:52


The Gov't in 1941 did that (send an invitation) by not responding adequately
to Pearl Harbour and the reply came back on 19 February 1942 (and a few times
more a bit later !).

Talking of the Darwin bombing, I read in the NT News yesterday that a ? Qantas ? pilot and a cabin crew member from 1942 were awarded recognition (?medals?) as in the attack on Darwin, even though they were civilians, they jumped into a flying boat that was moored next to the ship at the wharf, got it started and took off, and just afterwards the ship exploded (it was carrying explosives and ammunition).

A pretty gutsy effort for a civilian to take off with no protection into a swarm of Jap fighter and bombers and do it under fire :ok:

500N 9th Aug 2012 23:19

Well well well, look at what was said this morning !

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen admits rescuing asylum seekers is placing increased operational pressure on the navy.
"Of course, that's the case, but they'd also be doing other work as well," he told ABC Radio on Friday.
Mr Bowen was responding to reports the navy's patrol boats are literally cracking up under the strain of intercepting the surge in asylum-seeker vessels.
One patrol boat has been banned from operations and structural cracks have been discovered in at least two others,

Defence has ordered an urgent investigation into its overworked 14-boat fleet amid concerns the problem could threaten the navy's long-term ability to patrol Australia's northern approaches.

And as for
"but they'd also be doing other work as well" well of course they do
- when they have time !!!

I would love to see how much time they are patrolling the North West shelf platforms (and that whole area) and how much time they spend doing AS work ! They cant patrol and fight if needed with AS's on board !!!

500N 10th Aug 2012 00:06

Re the patrol boats cracking, have got to love the pollies
who said the increased operational tempo up north
could be a possible cause of the cracking.

Well god help the boats if they go to war is all I can say
if they call up North a high operational tempo.

allan907 10th Aug 2012 01:31

And in the meantime our Glorious Dear Leader is keeping her head down a la Pickering.

Just wonder which of the major media is going to decide to run with this one? So far it seems that The Australian is the only one with balls.

500N 10th Aug 2012 01:47


Are you referring to the Patrol boat saga this morning ?

Reason is, my article came from The Age, not the Australian
which I haven't looked at yet.

But you are right, some of the mainstream medi in this country
is pathetic. We need more of those hard hitting Jana Wendt type
interviews !!!

allan907 10th Aug 2012 03:24

Nope. The reference was to Larry Pickering's blog about the corrupt, criminal that we have as prime minister Larry Pickering

With that going on she's keeping her head down (before it gets chopped off). It's the hottest news around town and most are afraid to touch it.

Mach Turtle 10th Aug 2012 07:55

I have had a look at the two Pickering Post stories:




I am sure I am not the first to point out that Larry Pickering's writing style gets in the way of whatever he is trying to report. He mixes verifiable facts with potentially verifiable facts, as well as with speculation and opinion. He should just report what he claims to know.

What he has asserted so far, with respect to Julia Gillard, is that she worked for the law practice of Slater & Gordon and, while there, set up some bank accounts that were used to receive money taken in by the Australian Workers Union. Pickering says that the money, specifically, was extorted from companies under the threat of strike action disrupting work. The extortion, he says, was carried out by a union official named Bruce Wilson. He says Gillard had a personal relationship with Wilson, and in fact lived with him.

Then he says that the (allegedly dirty) money in the accounts Gillard set up was used...improperly somehow? He doesn't really say.

I am no fan of the current government, but if the whole thing depends on Gillard having lived with a crook (who may or may not be provably such), and that she "should have known" what was happening, it seems like a stretch to me.

Really, if he has a smoking gun document, publish it. This is what Wikileaks is for.

SOPS 10th Aug 2012 07:56

I hope that Julia is going to have a problem as of Monday. No more Olympics and no more intense focus on Anna Tripalot's ingrown toenail and how it will hamper her in the 300m bump and thump.

People might start to notice boats full of 200 queue jumpers and some other "issues" that are floating around.

Then she might, just might, have to stick her head back up.

MattGray 10th Aug 2012 09:07

I am no fan of the current government, but if the whole thing depends on Gillard having lived with a crook (who may or may not be provably such), and that she "should have known" what was happening, it seems like a stretch to me.

Really, if he has a smoking gun document, publish it. This is what Wikileaks is for.

Awwww Mach Turtle don't be such a Friday afternoon spoilsport.:}

Just when the Liberal luvvies have gone off happily into the weekend sunset, clinging to such a comforting albeit frail straw as poor old Larry furiously recycling his version of of a story which has been doing the rounds for many, many years.

CoodaShooda 10th Aug 2012 09:18

Not a liberal luvvie, just a Gillard labor hater :E -
but, if there was nothing to the story, she could have issued a blanket denial in the past rather than use the "young and naive" excuse.

That suggests that she did something wrong but wishes to be excused for her bahaviour.

And Robert McClelland (another Gillard non-fan) would not have seen fit to raise the matter under Parliamentary privilege.
And so it goes on.

Isn't there a little matter of a court finding that Wilson did indeed defraud the union but the AWU chose not to follow up recovery action?

That said, Pickering seems to be dragging things out with bombast. I'm having trouble working out what his game plan is; if, in fact, he has one.

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